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Re: Tree and shrub thinking time [Re: Animals Only] #8052280
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Originally Posted by Animals Only
What are you going to do with Hawthorne? They're invasive, have massive thorns that have will make you swell and very sore if you're poked by them. I try to kill every one but they grow faster than I can cut and spray.


Plant thornless Hawthorne varieties!

Crabapples like Red splendor have persistent fruit that doesn’t drop. I had a Robin eating fruit at -20 yesterday. Cedar Wax wings hit the tree weeks ago.

Kerr apples for deer. Check out Blue Hill Nursery for apple trees for wildlife.

Re: Tree and shrub thinking time [Re: AJE] #8052297
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Originally Posted by AJE
Originally Posted by Bob_Iowa
I like the hazelnut and wild American plums, however here the last few years the plums haven’t done anything as the freeze when in bloom and they don’t have any fruit on them.

Are plums challenging to grow?


Very prolific here, grows thick almost like buckthorn if conditions are right, nice little trees, highly recommended.

Re: Tree and shrub thinking time [Re: Jkme] #8052308
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North forty apples, in Michigan. Started taking orders on the 15th,might have some left.

Re: Tree and shrub thinking time [Re: Cheever] #8053137
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Originally Posted by Cheever
North forty apples, in Michigan. Started taking orders on the 15th,might have some left.

Interesting website, thanks. I'd never heard of them. Too bad they require buying package/minimum quantities.

Re: Tree and shrub thinking time [Re: Jkme] #8053469
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DO NOT PLANT CALLERY PEARS! Or whatever name the nursery's are using to fool folks. Crab apples make good people/wildlife feed and make good shelter. Always good to plant common local fruit/nut trees.


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Re: Tree and shrub thinking time [Re: Jkme] #8053478
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Pear and sawtooth oak.

Re: Tree and shrub thinking time [Re: Jkme] #8053579
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Re: Tree and shrub thinking time [Re: Jkme] #8053605
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Wild plums, wild apples, domestic apples, crabapples, persimmons, pears, hazelnuts, blueberries, raspberries, blackberries.

Re: Tree and shrub thinking time [Re: Jkme] #8053983
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Some probably like the way plums can root sprout and create thicker wildlife cover

Re: Tree and shrub thinking time [Re: BigBob] #8055405
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Originally Posted by BigBob
DO NOT PLANT CALLERY PEARS! Or whatever name the nursery's are using to fool folks.


Correct!
Pyrus calleryana, or the Callery pear, is a species of pear tree native to China and Vietnam, in the family Rosaceae. It is most commonly known for its cultivar 'Bradford' and its offensive odor, widely planted throughout the United States and increasingly regarded as an invasive species.

I don’t think this tree is sold in nurseries anymore.

Lots of good pear trees to plant.

Re: Tree and shrub thinking time [Re: Jkme] #8060220
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Originally Posted by Jkme
I'm always looking for a diversity of shrubs and trees on my place that will feed wildlife and myself. Currently I have elderberry, chokecherry, Aronia berry, service berry, grey dogwood, hawthorn, viburnum, and snow berries. I have about 25 red maples and 4 birch. I have a diversity of conifers and a bunch of fruit trees. Anyone have any good recommendations of trees and shrubs to plant that you see benefit wildlife or have value to you.

Great post, thanks. I too am trying to learn more about wildlife shrubs. For whatever it's worth, here's the list of wildlife shrubs WisDNR sells. The forester told me all of these on the list work for deer. I should add that Amercan Plum was also on the list, but didn't fit in my screenshot

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Re: Tree and shrub thinking time [Re: Jkme] #8064865
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White cedar is great for deer.

Re: Tree and shrub thinking time [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8064866
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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
Originally Posted by AJE

Are plums challenging to grow?


Very prolific here, grows thick almost like buckthorn if conditions are right, nice little trees, highly recommended.
I suppose it's hard to get them to grow without the deer eating them. I wonder how they do in the shade

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Originally Posted by BigBob
Crab apples make good people/wildlife feed and make good shelter. Always good to plant common local fruit/nut trees.

I have never seen people eat crab apples, but have wondered how they would be.

Re: Tree and shrub thinking time [Re: AJE] #8064976
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Originally Posted by AJE
White cedar is great for deer.

What I can't seem to find, is if I cut down tag alders, can I plant white cedar with success?


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Re: Tree and shrub thinking time [Re: keets] #8065029
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Originally Posted by keets
Originally Posted by AJE
White cedar is great for deer.

What I can't seem to find, is if I cut down tag alders, can I plant white cedar with success?


Too early for me to declare success but I planted Alder shear #1 with red osier dogwood and Alder shear #2 with white cedar and balsam fir. I didn't select cedar for the browse content just thermal break eventually, the browse line is set at the highest snow fall year and on cedar is typically unreachable. My objective with #2 was to create buck bedding areas away from the doe groups that bed closer to the Aspen clear cut shown and food plot shown in corn this year. After shearing the Alder you'll see natural openings to dump in trees and shrubs that thrive in a moist habitat.
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Re: Tree and shrub thinking time [Re: Jkme] #8065288
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Are there any downsides to high bush cranberry & are they good to plant for deer?

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Re: Tree and shrub thinking time [Re: AJE] #8065349
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Originally Posted by AJE
Are there any downsides to high bush cranberry & are they good to plant for deer?


I have planted a few and also have some growing wild. I have never seen the deer eat them but the grouse LOVE them and they hold berries fairly late into the winter.


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I have them but not sure- as 160 said supposed to be grouse candy… I thought it was a member of the viburnum family

Re: Tree and shrub thinking time [Re: Jkme] #8065615
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ttt... thx Eagleeye for the input...I'm hoping to be ontp something by cutting 1/4 acre of tag alder and replanting cedar for bedding areas..just don't know if the cedar will like that soil or not... there is 1 forester I do beaver control work for that could answer this, but I hate to bother him for free info..although I could possibly hire him for alder shearing? maybe


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