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How much glycerin is too much?
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I have some bobcat meat that I bought from Minnesota Trap Line. It’s a little dry. When trying to get it a good consistency can you just use glycerin or is there such a thing as too much glycerin in a meat bait?
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Re: How much glycerin is too much?
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danny clifton
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Buy some trout oil from Bob Jameson. Glycerin lowers the freezing point. You don't really need that a lot of time. It actually reduces volitivity and is not an attractant. Good fish oil, (a lot of it is junk) is a great attractant and adds to a meat baits attractiveness. If you can get hold of some spoonbill or catfish belly fat it renders down into a really great product also.
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Re: How much glycerin is too much?
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So I can buy the fish oil add it to the bobcat meet to get the consistency I would like and then keep it in my garage cool and out of the sunlight and it should be good for next season as well? The bobcat meat is already preserved.
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Re: How much glycerin is too much?
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Buy some trout oil from Bob Jameson. Glycerin lowers the freezing point. You don't really need that a lot of time. It actually reduces volitivity and is not an attractant. Good fish oil, (a lot of it is junk) is a great attractant and adds to a meat baits attractiveness. If you can get hold of some spoonbill or catfish belly fat it renders down into a really great product also. I like glycerin because it keeps stuff from freezing and unfrozen stuff smells stronger. Plus trying to get frozen lure or bait out of a jar can really raise a guys blood pressure. But Danny is correct, glycerin has no attraction of its own and if you don't need the antifreeze properties you are just diluting your bait.
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Re: How much glycerin is too much?
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Thanks guys. I’m ordering some fish oil.
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Re: How much glycerin is too much?
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Thanks YS. I have ordered the fish oil and am going to try that. I mixed up some pint jars with glycerin and they seem to do ok but I am not 100% sure that the amount I was using was hurting more than helping. I will mix the meat with the fish oil and we shall go from there. I highly doubt I will need the glycerin in my area. We do get pretty cold here in the higher country but not that cold.
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Re: How much glycerin is too much?
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Cattle have a nose like a bloodhound. EVERYTHING makes em curious. Fish oil is in every liquid protein I am aware of. Coyotes routinely lick those wheels too. Fired traps are IMO something you live with trapping cow pastures.
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Re: How much glycerin is too much?
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Cattle have a nose like a bloodhound. EVERYTHING makes em curious. Fish oil is in every liquid protein I am aware of. Coyotes routinely lick those wheels too. Fired traps are IMO something you live with trapping cow pastures. Same with deer. People say ingredient or that attracts more deer, but I've never found a top shelf coyote ingredient that doesn't attract deer. And I've looked. Even straight coyote glands attract the deer even though a lot of time on camera they jump when they first smell it if they are close. After there first initial bit of fear they must realize there isn't a coyote there then their darn curiosity kicks in. Going to quit making mock scrapes at my deer stands and just start putting in coyote sets. Lol
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Re: How much glycerin is too much?
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if the meat is preserved just put a tight lid on it and put it away.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: How much glycerin is too much?
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Cattle have a nose like a bloodhound. EVERYTHING makes em curious. Fish oil is in every liquid protein I am aware of. Coyotes routinely lick those wheels too. Fired traps are IMO something you live with trapping cow pastures. There is a reason USDA = has a mandate against = fish oil. Or fish oil based baits or lures used on M-44s. I spend as much time in cattle as anyone. And I know for a fact. Fish oil is the WORST thing you can use in cattle
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Re: How much glycerin is too much?
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if the meat is preserved just put a tight lid on it and put it away. Thanks
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Re: How much glycerin is too much?
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Cattle have a nose like a bloodhound. EVERYTHING makes em curious. Fish oil is in every liquid protein I am aware of. Coyotes routinely lick those wheels too. Fired traps are IMO something you live with trapping cow pastures. There is a reason USDA = has a mandate against = fish oil. Or fish oil based baits or lures used on M-44s. I spend as much time in cattle as anyone. And I know for a fact. Fish oil is the WORST thing you can use in cattle This is interesting. I guess it is a good thing that I don’t have to deal with cattle.
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Re: How much glycerin is too much?
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Aargh! X2 was to Seth's post, the quote didnt post (I assume operator error). Cattle have a nose like a bloodhound. EVERYTHING makes em curious. Fish oil is in every liquid protein I am aware of. Coyotes routinely lick those wheels too. Fired traps are IMO something you live with trapping cow pastures. Same with deer. People say ingredient or that attracts more deer, but I've never found a top shelf coyote ingredient that doesn't attract deer. And I've looked. Even straight coyote glands attract the deer even though a lot of time on camera they jump when they first smell it if they are close. After there first initial bit of fear they must realize there isn't a coyote there then their darn curiosity kicks in. Going to quit making mock scrapes at my deer stands and just start putting in coyote sets. Lol
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Re: How much glycerin is too much?
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danny clifton
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Some of you may not know but lots of beef producers use "licks". A tub with a lid that has wheels on top. The bottom of the wheel in a liquid supplement. Molasses is usually one of the ingredients also. Cows (and coyotes) lick the wheels. Cows sure enough get used to slurping on fish oil. Just like yes sirs deer though they want to sniff everything.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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