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|  dog or dogless and why please
 #8086163 02/25/24 07:29 PM
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I haven't trapped since I was a kid -50+ years ago recently retired and ready to by some traps and start trapping again- I like the dogless better ( I think ) less moving parts ? -but all the traps of yesteryear were longsprings with dogs and they worked pretty good and I think they probably still would better than my joints -  any help before I buy greatly appreciated . I know someone will ask what Im gonna focus on wolf-yote-bobcat  thanks in advance for any insight 
 if your lucky enough to live in the BIG woods your lucky enough
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 #8086167 02/25/24 07:35 PM
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white marlin
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I prefer dog-on.  maybe I'm not smart enough to tune a dogless trap, but I haven't had great success tuning them.
 I can get dogged traps adjusted to a repeatable state.  but I can't with dogless versions of the same trap.
 
 YMMV.
 
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patrapperbuster
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If you decide on dogless you have to clean the hookup spot really well.
 Personally i use only dog-on myself
 
 TILL THAT DAY.....
 
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 #8086175 02/25/24 07:48 PM
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Dogless for me. I really like the No B.S k9 jrs. No tinkering, set it and go. 
 
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 #8086176 02/25/24 07:49 PM
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danny clifton
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i prefer a trap where both jaws are locked down 
 Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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 #8086193 02/25/24 08:06 PM
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In my wet acidic conditions, I like a dog. But i am a old school beaver slut….. 
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 just put your ear to the ground , and follow along
 
 
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 #8086200 02/25/24 08:09 PM
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I've got both, but I've started to lean more towards a dogless trap. They're simple to use and tune, easy to bed and you don't have to worry about pulling a trap if a dog gets torn off. Another plus is the dogless traps I've used have a big pan making a larger area for the animal to put it's foot. 
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 #8086215 02/25/24 08:21 PM
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danny clifton
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I dont worry much about pan tension. If it gets loose it gets loose. I like fast. Thats important. I will tighten the pan nut only when I move the trap. I can catch equal amounts of fur with either dog or dogless but both jaws locked down beds easy. No messing around. Mash the trap in and cover it up. Straightening a dog once in a while takes seconds. Lay it ontop the nut of your rebar stake and smack it with a hammer. 
 Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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danny clifton
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I dont use nite latch. Short latch for me. Just set the trap. No fooling with finding the second notch. 
 Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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 #8086227 02/25/24 08:34 PM
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white marlin
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I dont use nite latch. Short latch for me. Just set the trap. No fooling with finding the second notch.no big deal on "finding" the second notch. nite-latch helps me bed the trap in our rocky "soil"...I bed the trap with the elevated pan in the pre-"nite-latched" position.  Once I have it tight, I press on the jaws and lower the pan for the "click". easy-peasy.
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 #8086279 02/25/24 09:30 PM
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In NY you have to have traps with adjustable pans and most dogless are not adjustable so I use the dog type trap.   Most dogless are considerably more expensive also.   I have both but dont use the dogless in NY 
 Free people are not equal. Equal people are not free.   What's supposed to be ain't always is. Hopper Hunter
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