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Finally.. beaver property #8088049
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Well... finally got on to some property with beaver... since tomorrow is last day for everything except coyote, beaver, and otter, I figured I would try my hand at beaver.. it's a shallow creek...darn near every tree for a few achers along this creek is chewed... found 2 mounds on the bank.... there is a slide about every 40ft I seams like....and the dam is on this property too... I don't have beaver specific stuff persay except I do have a 330. I do have a hand full of Duke #4 offset jaw 4 coil traps...figure make some downers and target front foot at these slides.... might do a break in the dam and put one there.. any advice for a beaver noob with no lure and shooting for blind set only... I got a month to figure it out... I only want 4... for wall hangers..


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Re: Finanally... beaver property [Re: DirtyD] #8088081
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Find a crossover, or well used slide and blind set with your footholds. If you get one, well now you have lure. Good luck. Blend that 330 under a log also where the water narrows. Stake well!


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Re: Finanally... beaver property [Re: DirtyD] #8088296
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Make sure your weight if you use them on your drowners is plenty heavy. With front foot catches they have both back feet and the tail to propel them. It's hard to believe sometimes how powerful they are.

Good job getting permission, sometimes that can be the hardest part of trapping.

Please share some pics of your first beavers when you catch them.

Good luck!


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Re: Finanally... beaver property [Re: DirtyD] #8088346
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Some peeled sticks and cinnamon would work for bait if nothing else was to be had. Blind sets otherwise are very productive.
Good luck

Re: Finanally... beaver property [Re: Turtledale] #8088546
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Originally Posted by Turtledale
Make sure your weight if you use them on your drowners is plenty heavy. With front foot catches they have both back feet and the tail to propel them. It's hard to believe sometimes how powerful they are.

Good job getting permission, sometimes that can be the hardest part of trapping.

Please share some pics of your first beavers when you catch them.

Good luck!


15#-20# u think would be good enough??
It was easy to get permission for this spot bc I do business with them... but yea... u usually got to ask about 30-40 people before u get a yes or maybe. To many others have ruined it around here... mostly goose hunters and guys rutting up the fields bc they don't want to drag a deer a couple hundred yards...


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Re: Finanally... beaver property [Re: DirtyD] #8088575
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Lowes has fiberglass rebar 1/2" and 3/8".. what one to get? What yall use for the end to stake down?


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Re: Finanally... beaver property [Re: DirtyD] #8088589
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30 lbs sounds about right. I have sand bags that i fill on site with gravel or rocks. Have even used cement cinder blocks.

I would use a metal stake to secure slide wire.


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Re: Finanally... beaver property [Re: DirtyD] #8088653
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If I use weights, I always figure fifty pounds, maybe overkill, but it depends on the type of weight and the type of bottom. I've seen blanket and super blanket beaver pull fifty pounds worth of window weights up on the bank with a smooth solid bottom. That is why I won't use window weights, they will roll on a smooth bottom. I prefer a stake on the drowning end if you can drive it the bottom, I use wood ones cut on site, no need to pack anything in.

Rather than making a break in the dam, find a spillway on the dam, there is always at least one, usually two or three, and set your trap there. I will usually set every spillway, Every time the beaver cross the dam they will cross at a spillway, great blind set.

Re: Finanally... beaver property [Re: DirtyD] #8088727
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If legal in your area I would set snares on all the run. They are cheap easy and work very well for me. We only have 4 beaver size foot holds and 1 330. Only trap them now and then when that are problems for friends. But for the cost of a single trap you can set 20 snares.

Re: Finanally... beaver property [Re: DirtyD] #8088736
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I will take some pictures inorder to help yall help me determine the best options for my area... It is a soft mud bottom for about 1 ft then clay below that...the dam is right under a bridge going over the creek..


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Re: Finanally... beaver property [Re: DirtyD] #8089201
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Well.. I figured out how to make a grown man cry..... forget to flip the safety on a conibear and have a beaver set it off, move the trap.... very disappointed in myself for forgetting something so simple.


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Re: Finanally... beaver property [Re: DirtyD] #8089254
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We've all left the safeties on at least once. Lesson learned. Now it's second nature for me. I also police the area before I leave. Easy to leave a hammer, setters etc.... laying there.


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Re: Finanally... beaver property [Re: DirtyD] #8089273
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Have left safeties on twice that i can remember. As Turtledale stated do a quick search around. Some things i have almost forgot are a glove, stake, wirecutters, bottle of lure, ...


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Re: Finanally... beaver property [Re: DirtyD] #8089294
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I usually run them trigger down for that purpose.. js incase I forget.. this time I had to run it trigger up and forgot... it's not the first time I do it, but the fact I missed a beaver over it bc I was rushing the other day to set it out and get home b4 kids go to school is what got me... rushing usually leads to mistakes.... hopefully I didn't educate this beaver on conibears.. time will tell... I've haven't left tools out.. think that's from working aircraft for 14 years... always check my tools b4 moving on... there is a place for tools and I know when something is missing b4 moving on.


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Re: Finanally... beaver property [Re: DirtyD] #8089621
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Originally Posted by DirtyD
Well... finally got on to some property with beaver... since tomorrow is last day for everything except coyote, beaver, and otter, I figured I would try my hand at beaver.. it's a shallow creek...darn near every tree for a few achers along this creek is chewed... found 2 mounds on the bank.... there is a slide about every 40ft I seams like....and the dam is on this property too... I don't have beaver specific stuff persay except I do have a 330. I do have a hand full of Duke #4 offset jaw 4 coil traps...figure make some downers and target front foot at these slides.... might do a break in the dam and put one there.. any advice for a beaver noob with no lure and shooting for blind set only... I got a month to figure it out... I only want 4... for wall hangers..



Downers are a great way to target front feet, so your plan for using #4 offset jaw traps at slides is on point.

Setting a trap in a break in the dam is a good idea, too. You could consider creating a pocket to place the trap, so the beaver has to step on the pan to get through the break.

For a blind set, try to make sure your trap is bedded well and is stable. Use the surrounding environment to guide the beaver's foot into the trap.

Re: Finanally... beaver property [Re: DirtyD] #8089693
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Originally Posted by DirtyD
Well.. I figured out how to make a grown man cry..... forget to flip the safety on a conibear and have a beaver set it off, move the trap.... very disappointed in myself for forgetting something so simple.


Couldn’t find my safety when I got home one day last fall. Checked the pics I took of my sets……..
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There it is!
Or I pull it off but leave the other spring arm safeties on….lol


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Re: Finanally... beaver property [Re: DirtyD] #8089757
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I took the removable one off, but forgot the ones on the springs.


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Re: Finanally... beaver property [Re: DirtyD] #8089799
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Originally Posted by DirtyD
I took the removable one off, but forgot the ones on the springs.

make a habit of when you put the safety setter on the trap, you take the spring safeties off

Re: Finanally... beaver property [Re: DirtyD] #8091510
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Got some 1/2" rebar to make drowners.. now gota weld everything up and make locks tonight.. we shall see this week what we get.


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Re: Finanally... beaver property [Re: DirtyD] #8094169
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Made me some beaver rods.. got ahold of some stainless 1" tube with 1/8th inch wall for the lock..

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Re: Finanally... beaver property [Re: DirtyD] #8094191
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Those look great!

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Re: Finanally... beaver property [Re: DirtyD] #8094217
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Those look really nice. You'll feel even better pulling up a nice one on something you made. My welding skills are a little lackluster compared to yours. Nice job


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Re: Finanally... beaver property [Re: DirtyD] #8094301
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DD , nice job. I do my safeties like Sniper, or try to.

Re: Finanally... beaver property [Re: DirtyD] #8094800
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Here is the dam I needa set and ima be setting on some slides anolg the bank for a few hundred yards.
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Re: Finanally... beaver property [Re: DirtyD] #8094809
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How many you dealing with? Leave the dam alone for awhile (or, set crossovers only), and find out where they really are.


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Re: Finanally... beaver property [Re: DirtyD] #8094841
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3 or 4 based on what the property owner and another trapper in the area told me. There are slides, trails, and very large holes going in the banks.. like sockerball size holes...


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Re: Finanally... beaver property [Re: DirtyD] #8094995
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Should catch a few quick there. Nice spot


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Re: Finanally... beaver property [Re: DirtyD] #8097469
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Well we had a rain the other day.. so I figured it would help me find the slides and paths these beaver are taking... well looking at the tracks it looks like I'm currently only dealing with one beaver.. only found one set of tracks along the pond side of the dam where its comingfor an inspection... found two caster mounds, but when I got down on all 4, I couldn't smell anything other than the grass and mud.. should I be able to smell that caster smell if I get my nose close to it?...O... I did fi d an otter toilet, but it looks old.. nothing fresh..


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Re: Finanally... beaver property [Re: DirtyD] #8097475
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DD, bottom photo, two spots I would set, right side in that narrow ditch. Left side between grass clump and dam.

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Unless someone already trapped there I would bet there's more than one beaver. Set it up. A few days and you'll know


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Re: Finanally... beaver property [Re: DirtyD] #8097619
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set what ever you have on it and you will know within a few days if you have gotten them all. After it slows down pop a hole in the dam and set a trap deep on the dam break. I normally set slightly offset about 3ft out away from the break


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Re: Finanally... beaver property [Re: DirtyD] #8097723
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I got 6 drowners out lastnight and going run some snares this afternoon. made some snare supports last night.. some 2 ft and some 4 ft..
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Re: Finanally... beaver property [Re: DirtyD] #8098692
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Now it's on..had an empty trap at the bottom of a drowner rod that was set with a caster mounds with anis oil as a lure...toe catch?????? I did something wrong

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Re: Finanally... beaver property [Re: DirtyD] #8098840
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Make sure your trap is bedded well and offset for the beavers approach.
Depth and distance back from the bank is something that takes a little while to learn. Also pan tension for a deep grab on the foot.
Toe catches and misses happen to us all but can brought to a minimum.
Keep at it, your learning and doing good.

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Re: Finanally... beaver property [Re: DirtyD] #8099122
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Ok... so I re-did some of these sets. I did it the way Dale Billingsly shows it.. since it's steep banks I cut a shelf and did a caster mound and then made a pool at water level with a Mudd berm around the trap area... I turned the trap to the side and offset it to where the front edge of the loose jaw is even with the caster mound and the trap pan is on the down stream side.... there was fresh tracks within inches of my pan on two other sets other than the one that got tripped.. hopefully we will see in the morning if this method will help with missed catches.. what yall think about large pans for beaver?? Think it's worth the extra effort??

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Re: Finanally... beaver property [Re: DirtyD] #8099166
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Tighten the pans like Dale suggested, a beaver is heavy, you want him pushing down on that pan.

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Yup... did that too... don't have a scale, my 4 pound hammer moves the pan slow then sets it off... so I gota be close to 4-5 pounds... ish

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Re: Finanally... beaver property [Re: DirtyD] #8099726
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Well got some Bridger #3 dogless.... was looking at the 650, but this #3had a taller jaw...and was way cheaper...let's see what these can do..


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Re: Finanally... beaver property [Re: DirtyD] #8099847
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Originally Posted by DirtyD
Ok... so I re-did some of these sets. I did it the way Dale Billingsly shows it.. since it's steep banks I cut a shelf and did a caster mound and then made a pool at water level with a Mudd berm around the trap area... I turned the trap to the side and offset it to where the front edge of the loose jaw is even with the caster mound and the trap pan is on the down stream side.... there was fresh tracks within inches of my pan on two other sets other than the one that got tripped.. hopefully we will see in the morning if this method will help with missed catches.. what yall think about large pans for beaver?? Think it's worth the extra effort??

I don't like big pans for beaver, I want their whole foot in the trap. I've had too many toe catches to convince me otherwise.


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Re: Finanally... beaver property [Re: DirtyD] #8099849
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BTW DD, you got any otters out your way yet? Just curious how far west they've made it.


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Re: Finanally... beaver property [Re: Yukon John] #8099930
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Originally Posted by Yukon John
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Ok... so I re-did some of these sets. I did it the way Dale Billingsly shows it.. since it's steep banks I cut a shelf and did a caster mound and then made a pool at water level with a Mudd berm around the trap area... I turned the trap to the side and offset it to where the front edge of the loose jaw is even with the caster mound and the trap pan is on the down stream side.... there was fresh tracks within inches of my pan on two other sets other than the one that got tripped.. hopefully we will see in the morning if this method will help with missed catches.. what yall think about large pans for beaver?? Think it's worth the extra effort??

I don't like big pans for beaver, I want their whole foot in the trap. I've had too many toe catches to convince me otherwise.

It's the stock pan on them Bridger #3 and #4's.. so not worth the big pans.??. should I cut them down then?

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Re: Finanally... beaver property [Re: Yukon John] #8099932
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Originally Posted by Yukon John
BTW DD, you got any otters out your way yet? Just curious how far west they've made it.

Yes.. they have them here... they are not as plentiful as back down south Louisiana where I grew up, but they are here.


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Re: Finanally... beaver property [Re: DirtyD] #8100835
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Ever since that miss... everything went stale... about how long they usually hold up b4 coming back in the area? 5-7 day yall think??


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Re: Finanally... beaver property [Re: DirtyD] #8104112
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Well... finally connected... thought I was gonna have to call a priest to get this creature out off my beaver trap... had the most demonic looking coon on the end of that drowner rod... idk how he managed to get front foot caught on a trap that bedded about 6" deep of water w/a caster mound... the cartilage and part of the skull on the nose was showing, patches of fur missing.. no lips..... crazy looking thing. I normally eat coon, but I think ima let the coyotes and opossums have this one...


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