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Re: 2.5-3% interest by fall? [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8093732
03/06/24 11:30 AM
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Powell's written statement to congress this morning.





Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell said Wednesday that the central bank’s policy-setting committee still isn’t convinced that continued progress toward their 2% percent inflation objective is “assured,” and that it won’t make sense to cut interest rates until it is confident.

“The Committee does not expect that it will be appropriate to reduce the target range until it has gained greater confidence that inflation is moving sustainably toward 2 percent,” Powell said in a statement prepared for delivery to the House Committee on Financial Services.

Powell’s written statement didn’t include any further guidance on timing or the conditions that would need to be met to convince Fed officials that inflation was on a sustainable path to 2%. Several policymakers have indicated they’d like to see a longer period in which inflation is cooling and price pressures diminish more broadly, particularly in the rents and services sectors of the economy, before easing policy.

While the central bank believes that the policy rate is likely at its peak for this tightening cycle, Powell said that the Federal Open Market Committee continues to “assess the incoming data, the evolving outlook, and the balance of risks.”

“Reducing policy restraint too soon or too much could result in a reversal of progress we have seen in inflation and ultimately require even tighter policy to get inflation back to 2 percent,” Powell said. “At the same time, reducing policy restraint too late or too little could unduly weaken economic activity and employment.”


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Re: 2.5-3% interest by fall? [Re: Kansas Cat] #8093733
03/06/24 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Kansas Cat
It wouldn't surprise me at all if interest rates were higher by election day. Gasoline prices will likely be higher by election day also. OPEC has extended production cuts and compliance is fairly high. Demand is also increasing. The strategic election reserve has also not been refilled. The US is unlikely to add a million barrels of oil per day like we did last year.



grin


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Re: 2.5-3% interest by fall? [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8093971
03/06/24 06:27 PM
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It seems most don't believe what Powell is saying.

IMHO if he cuts rates the markets will react accordingly.


If they do it will be good for gold and Bitcoin. Price of gas will go the roof


"Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan
Re: 2.5-3% interest by fall? [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8094079
03/06/24 09:24 PM
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After reading that letter I guess it makes me pessimistic and I really tend to think that there maybe a rate hike coming if the inflation doesn’t get back down soon.

Re: 2.5-3% interest by fall? [Re: Bear Tracker] #8094136
03/06/24 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Bear Tracker
Yep and 1980 minimum wage we $3.10 an hour. If you were making $5.00 an hour that was good money. $12,500.00 was the annual income avg. There were less dollars!
2023 avg annual income $56,300.00 and change.

17% interest to 21% sucked. Land in north central WI was $100.00 an acre, figuring interest, and the avg. wage, it was tough.

Avg. US ag land was 7-800 an acre. Farmers were going under like crazy due to prices and interest rates.

National debt was 914 billion in 1980, lol


Of course, average home costs in 1980 were under $48,000.

You could buy a brand new 4x4 pickup for $4-7k. (Or 75-100 good prime fox!)



Average home costs now run $387-412k depending on what source you use.

And that new truck is $60k or better. Or a WHOLE YEARS salary.

Don’t tell me we’re better off now!

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Re: 2.5-3% interest by fall? [Re: Boone Liane] #8094166
03/06/24 11:35 PM
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With so much wealth or cash being used to buy many assets including land, other real estate etc. Interest rates are not an issue for them and nor is prices if they are choosing to invest and diversify their asset portfolio.
Interest rates (borrowing) is an issue for those that use a lot of credit either in business or non-business. The way many of our farmers around here are resolving the high prices to purchase farm assets is to form LLCs or LLPss to transfer assets over longer periods of time while the younger generation is earning enough revenue from the business to live and buy into the assets.Many times land assets are kept seperate from the other farm assets so that the acres can be rented by the LLC but not sold and then the land assets can transfer at deaths of the older generation with a stepped up basis.

Bryce

Re: 2.5-3% interest by fall? [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8094170
03/06/24 11:43 PM
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Never said we were better off now. Was simply pointing out what the situation was. As I stated land costs in our region, Avg. home costs around here are around $150,00 - 250,000.00. Almost half your stated cost. Interest rates today are cheap still compared to then.
Living here is more affordable than Minneapolis or Milwaukee, but wages are not as high either. As with the 80's vs 2024 so many variables, and life was as difficult then as it is difficult now for many. But life is full of choices, we choose, to live frugally then and now. We developed our home through a lot of sweat equity. Many today do not, won't or can't make those choices, depending on location and other variables.
Good prime fox I got $125.00 each for three in 1980.

Re: 2.5-3% interest by fall? [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8094443
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Nobody else has probably been listening to powell these past couple days,,,,,

Myself, I find it super interesting

He’s great at answering the questions from elected folks even when questions are ridiculous!! It’s got too be painful!!

The guy is a smart smart man

Anyway kinda off topic and nobody is probably paying attention



Just wanted to add

Everyone agrees(Powell included) the Chinese economy is on life support,,,,,,,, doesn’t bode well for the fur industry.

We are about to find out

Re: 2.5-3% interest by fall? [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8094547
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I have a brother who is the head loan officer over 11 banks. He is not expecting rates to be that low by the fall.


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Re: 2.5-3% interest by fall? [Re: spjones] #8094590
03/07/24 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by spjones
Nobody else has probably been listening to powell these past couple days,,,,,

Myself, I find it super interesting

He’s great at answering the questions from elected folks even when questions are ridiculous!! It’s got too be painful!!

The guy is a smart smart man

Anyway kinda off topic and nobody is probably paying attention



Just wanted to add

Everyone agrees(Powell included) the Chinese economy is on life support,,,,,,,, doesn’t bode well for the fur industry.

We are about to find out



I find his talks interesting too. Especially the Q&A after a Fed meeting.

The financial journalists ask much better questions than congress.

Hopefully Hank Johnson didn't ask him about Guam !


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Re: 2.5-3% interest by fall? [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8094592
03/07/24 04:33 PM
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Command economies tend to fail because they never provide what people actually want. Even an economy like ours has people in government who don't seem to understand this simple concept.

Re: 2.5-3% interest by fall? [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8094593
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Surely it has flipped over by now.

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Re: 2.5-3% interest by fall? [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8094596
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I enjoy Q and A's also unless the questioners are irretrievably moronic.

Re: 2.5-3% interest by fall? [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8094597
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especially with the rising sea levels and concentration of CO2 on one side of the island


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Re: 2.5-3% interest by fall? [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8094599
03/07/24 04:42 PM
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I heard beach spots are allocated in such a way that sunbathers are evenly distributed on the perimeter of the island. This, of course, solves White's CO2 dilemma as well.

Re: 2.5-3% interest by fall? [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8094602
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Well that's a relief !!


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