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Here's a new one, at least for me, "Kratom" #8101474
03/17/24 06:21 AM
03/17/24 06:21 AM
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Fredonia, PA.
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Yesterday, I saw "Kratom" being advertised in the window of a liquor store. I never heard of that word, so I googled it. It's a mild form of opiate that grows in Asia. Some type of evergreen, I believe. It's legal in most states. Well, that's just fine and dandy. Just what this country needs, more choices of opioids.


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Re: Here's a new one, at least for me, "Kratom" [Re: Finster] #8101494
03/17/24 07:03 AM
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The only places I seem to see it advertised is the Indian run gas stations.

Re: Here's a new one, at least for me, "Kratom" [Re: Finster] #8101538
03/17/24 08:13 AM
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its been around for quite a while here.

Re: Here's a new one, at least for me, "Kratom" [Re: Finster] #8101555
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Re: Here's a new one, at least for me, "Kratom" [Re: Finster] #8101563
03/17/24 08:58 AM
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Oh no, people have the freedom to choose whether or not to put a plant into their own bodies. The horror!!!!

Quick, let's outlaw it and expand the police state to enforce it.

(BTW, never used it, I have no plans to either. Drugs are for losers. But freedom is awesome, even when it means freedom to do something I don't like.)

Last edited by loosegoose; 03/17/24 08:59 AM.
Re: Here's a new one, at least for me, "Kratom" [Re: Finster] #8101592
03/17/24 09:35 AM
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Still looking for imitation cocane myself….


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Re: Here's a new one, at least for me, "Kratom" [Re: loosegoose] #8101652
03/17/24 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
Oh no, people have the freedom to choose whether or not to put a plant into their own bodies. The horror!!!!

Quick, let's outlaw it and expand the police state to enforce it.

(BTW, never used it, I have no plans to either. Drugs are for losers. But freedom is awesome, even when it means freedom to do something I don't like.)

Problem is that it doesn't affect just them. Not by any means. 100,000 dead last year from opioids. Cities are in ruins, drug addicted homeless living in the streets. Civilized people can't even go to the stores anymore, walk the streets in safety, or even live in their own homes without fear. Politicians throwing our tax money at the issue. So, YES, IT SHOULD BE ILLEGAL. It affects everyone, especially those that don't do drugs. Your freedom ends when your actions affect my freedom.

Last edited by Finster; 03/17/24 11:10 AM.

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Re: Here's a new one, at least for me, "Kratom" [Re: Finster] #8101658
03/17/24 11:09 AM
03/17/24 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Finster
Originally Posted by loosegoose
Oh no, people have the freedom to choose whether or not to put a plant into their own bodies. The horror!!!!

Quick, let's outlaw it and expand the police state to enforce it.

(BTW, never used it, I have no plans to either. Drugs are for losers. But freedom is awesome, even when it means freedom to do something I don't like.)

Problem is that it doesn't affect just them. Not by any means. 100,000 dead last year from opioids. Cities are in ruins, drug addicted homeless living in the streets. Civilized people can't even go to the stores anymore, walk the streets in safety, or even live in their own homes without fear. Politicians throwing our tax money at the issue. So, YES, IT SHOULD BE ILLEGAL. It affects everyone, especially those that don't do drugs.


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I quit doing fentinal ,,,,, I found out it was made in china……


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Re: Here's a new one, at least for me, "Kratom" [Re: Finster] #8101665
03/17/24 11:25 AM
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Rodney,Ohio
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It is not an opiate. It does have opiate and and stimulant-like effects

Re: Here's a new one, at least for me, "Kratom" [Re: Finster] #8101669
03/17/24 11:35 AM
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Finster, I agree.


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Re: Here's a new one, at least for me, "Kratom" [Re: Finster] #8101675
03/17/24 11:44 AM
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Re: Here's a new one, at least for me, "Kratom" [Re: Finster] #8101698
03/17/24 12:11 PM
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Had a mediocre push in Mi. to abolish flavored tobacco cause it was harming kids momma/daddies gummies are fine


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Re: Here's a new one, at least for me, "Kratom" [Re: Coyote Clayton] #8101707
03/17/24 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Coyote Clayton
Finster, I agree.


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It affects us all when they take my tax dollars and fund govt sponsored rehabs for all these folks that get hooked on all the different forms of crap out there. If loosegoose really that naive that it only affects those individuals , I feel sorry for him. Good grief.

Re: Here's a new one, at least for me, "Kratom" [Re: loosegoose] #8101762
03/17/24 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
Oh no, people have the freedom to choose whether or not to put a plant into their own bodies. The horror!!!!

Quick, let's outlaw it and expand the police state to enforce it.

(BTW, never used it, I have no plans to either. Drugs are for losers. But freedom is awesome, even when it means freedom to do something I don't like.)


Nobody mentioned outlawing it until you did.

Re: Here's a new one, at least for me, "Kratom" [Re: Finster] #8101814
03/17/24 03:05 PM
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We always zip right by the number of deaths and tax dollars that have been spent on alcohol deaths and abuse all good booze is big money in this country and everyone drinks

Re: Here's a new one, at least for me, "Kratom" [Re: rex123] #8101817
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Originally Posted by rex123
We always zip right by the number of deaths and tax dollars that have been spent on alcohol deaths and abuse all good booze is big money in this country and everyone drinks

I'll drink to that.

Re: Here's a new one, at least for me, "Kratom" [Re: Vinke] #8101830
03/17/24 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Vinke
Still looking for imitation cocane myself….

Meth is the poor mans version...I can hook you up with the neighbors, Lol.


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Re: Here's a new one, at least for me, "Kratom" [Re: Finster] #8101843
03/17/24 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Finster
Yesterday, I saw "Kratom" being advertised in the window of a liquor store. I never heard of that word, so I googled it. It's a mild form of opiate that grows in Asia. Some type of evergreen, I believe. It's legal in most states. Well, that's just fine and dandy. Just what this country needs, more choices of opioids.

This has been a thing for a while now , was popular in 2020-2022 for gym rats . Kinda just a meme now . Still better then spice from back around 2015


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Re: Here's a new one, at least for me, "Kratom" [Re: Wolfdog91] #8101907
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What rex123 said!


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Re: Here's a new one, at least for me, "Kratom" [Re: 4zebra61] #8101962
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Re: Here's a new one, at least for me, "Kratom" [Re: Finster] #8102006
03/17/24 06:38 PM
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Most of it is or at least was recently produced in Thailand. However, in Thailand it is illegal to smoke it.
I have heard that smoking it will get you really high for a short period of time, and then you puke your guts out. Sounds like lots of fun.


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Re: Here's a new one, at least for me, "Kratom" [Re: Finster] #8102013
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I'm not sure why our society has such an obsession with drugs/alcohol in general. When the government bans one drug a new one will always pop up. I honestly feel bad for the people man, it seems like not many people can just enjoy their lives being sober- especially from my generation.

Re: Here's a new one, at least for me, "Kratom" [Re: Finster] #8102017
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Originally Posted by Finster
Originally Posted by loosegoose
Oh no, people have the freedom to choose whether or not to put a plant into their own bodies. The horror!!!!

Quick, let's outlaw it and expand the police state to enforce it.

(BTW, never used it, I have no plans to either. Drugs are for losers. But freedom is awesome, even when it means freedom to do something I don't like.)

Problem is that it doesn't affect just them. Not by any means. 100,000 dead last year from opioids. Cities are in ruins, drug addicted homeless living in the streets. Civilized people can't even go to the stores anymore, walk the streets in safety, or even live in their own homes without fear. Politicians throwing our tax money at the issue. So, YES, IT SHOULD BE ILLEGAL. It affects everyone, especially those that don't do drugs. Your freedom ends when your actions affect my freedom.

I assume, then, that since there's well over 150,000 deaths per year from alcohol abuse, that alcohol should also be outlawed.

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I believe if alcohol could be made illegal it would be. Our government has tried to make it illegal before but failed at doing so, it's just too easy to make, leave an orange outside for long enough and you have alcohol. It would benefit our society if all mind-altering substances were made illegal, it's hard to argue that they make our world a better place, it's just unrealistic to do so.

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They been putting that in salads for years.


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