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Idaho Wolf Trapping banned #8104479
03/20/24 06:10 PM
03/20/24 06:10 PM
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U S District court banned Wolf trapping in the Panhandle, Clearwater, Salmon, and Upper Snake units on public and private land March 1 to November 30 because of Grizzly Bear. ITA will get to spend Auction money now.

Re: Idaho Wolf Trapping banned [Re: caldwellite] #8104486
03/20/24 06:26 PM
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Wolf season open dec 1 to feb 28 . Should be fur on them.


Who is John Galt?
Re: Idaho Wolf Trapping banned [Re: caldwellite] #8104533
03/20/24 07:44 PM
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We can’t trap wolves May - October unless you got a kill permit.

Re: Idaho Wolf Trapping banned [Re: caldwellite] #8104555
03/20/24 08:15 PM
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The judge should be locked up with a wolve.

Re: Idaho Wolf Trapping banned [Re: caldwellite] #8104601
03/20/24 09:04 PM
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I wish we had a season Dec 1 to Feb 28


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Re: Idaho Wolf Trapping banned [Re: caldwellite] #8104703
03/20/24 11:13 PM
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Dirt they are furred out but in the upper Snake region where I am at we fight deep snow where trying to keep traps running is all but impossible. 500+ plus inches a winter is the norm. I wish I could say what I want to but it would definitely get me booted. I have nothing but good things to say for the ITA and Rusty and know he will keep fighting these lawsuits. We need to quit bickering and work together or for sure will fall like CO,OR,WA,and a few other states. Believe me, I was living in CO when the ani-trapping bills came out and all the (Sportsman) were so busy fighting each other and beating their chests that it was passed without incident.


The first requisite of a good citizen in this republic of ours is that he shall be able and willing to pull his own weight.
Theodore Roosevelt

Re: Idaho Wolf Trapping banned [Re: caldwellite] #8104812
03/21/24 07:33 AM
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That’s a bit of snow to deal with! So you were trapping earlier & later to try n manage the population.

Re: Idaho Wolf Trapping banned [Re: Jmack] #8104824
03/21/24 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Jmack
Dirt they are furred out but in the upper Snake region where I am at we fight deep snow where trying to keep traps running is all but impossible. 500+ plus inches a winter is the norm. I wish I could say what I want to but it would definitely get me booted. I have nothing but good things to say for the ITA and Rusty and know he will keep fighting these lawsuits. We need to quit bickering and work together or for sure will fall like CO,OR,WA,and a few other states. Believe me, I was living in CO when the ani-trapping bills came out and all the (Sportsman) were so busy fighting each other and beating their chests that it was passed without incident.



This.. I shot a couple wolves up in that country years back. I cannot imagine trying to trap in those winter conditions, snaring would be nearly as impossible were it allowed. The ungulates up in that panhandle just can’t catch a break.

If, and I say if there is any shortage of wolves in those areas it’s because they’ve eaten themselves out of house and home not because of any hunting or trapping pressure.

Judges should learn to stick to what they actually know or discover honestly instead of becoming political pawns.

Osky


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Re: Idaho Wolf Trapping banned [Re: caldwellite] #8104829
03/21/24 08:02 AM
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Bingo Osky! Judges should stick with what they know.

Re: Idaho Wolf Trapping banned [Re: caldwellite] #8104894
03/21/24 09:24 AM
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I would guess ungulates leave places that get 500 inches of snow. Here they do , or they die. Hopefully the grizzly delisting works out.


Who is John Galt?
Re: Idaho Wolf Trapping banned [Re: caldwellite] #8104915
03/21/24 09:42 AM
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Dirt they migrate down in the desert country in mid November, the area I am in the state closes the entire big desert for winter feeding grounds so no human entry till late April/may. I normally try and move with the herds and snowmobile on the upper edge of timber and sage on the FS ground. The moose are what takes the biggest hit every winter since they normally don't move down like the deer and elk. This ruling has been being fought for a while and the antis keep hitting harder every time. The areas I used to trap up north has become so populated its getting ridiculous, the out of state realtors are right now trying to build a larg private airport.


The first requisite of a good citizen in this republic of ours is that he shall be able and willing to pull his own weight.
Theodore Roosevelt

Re: Idaho Wolf Trapping banned [Re: Jmack] #8104975
03/21/24 11:00 AM
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We need to be watchful in all regions as the arguments are trending toward using wildlife against wildlife and that seems to be a more solid anti strategy then just saying trapping or any consumptive use is bad.
There are many speices that are not even close to endangered that can be manipulated by legal means by just using species habits and or habitat destruction etc. As much as we want to just ignore them for their ignorance we need to really study their arguments to gain better arguments for our causes.

Bryce

Re: Idaho Wolf Trapping banned [Re: Dirt] #8105008
03/21/24 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Dirt
I would guess ungulates leave places that get 500 inches of snow. Here they do , or they die. Hopefully the grizzly delisting works out.



I think you might be surprised how hi and in how much snow the moose will put up with in that country.
Elk move down into those cuts along the Clearwater river. The wolves of course picked up on this in the first 30 seconds and over the course of a couple winters and spring calving periods devastated those elk herds.


Osky


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Re: Idaho Wolf Trapping banned [Re: caldwellite] #8105020
03/21/24 12:27 PM
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Isn’t the first of March a little early most years for the bears to be out and about with cubs ?

Re: Idaho Wolf Trapping banned [Re: Osky] #8105022
03/21/24 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Osky
Originally Posted by Jmack
Dirt they are furred out but in the upper Snake region where I am at we fight deep snow where trying to keep traps running is all but impossible. 500+ plus inches a winter is the norm. I wish I could say what I want to but it would definitely get me booted. I have nothing but good things to say for the ITA and Rusty and know he will keep fighting these lawsuits. We need to quit bickering and work together or for sure will fall like CO,OR,WA,and a few other states. Believe me, I was living in CO when the ani-trapping bills came out and all the (Sportsman) were so busy fighting each other and beating their chests that it was passed without incident.



This.. I shot a couple wolves up in that country years back. I cannot imagine trying to trap in those winter conditions, snaring would be nearly as impossible were it allowed. The ungulates up in that panhandle just can’t catch a break.

If, and I say if there is any shortage of wolves in those areas it’s because they’ve eaten themselves out of house and home not because of any hunting or trapping pressure.

Judges should learn to stick to what they actually know or discover honestly instead of becoming political pawns.

Osky


Judges dont know anything,they listen to two opposing arguments and decide which one is credible and which is not based on what is presented to them.


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: Idaho Wolf Trapping banned [Re: caldwellite] #8105030
03/21/24 12:43 PM
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Judges don’t know anything, they listen to two opposing arguments and decide which one is most politically correct and base they’re ruling on what fits their agenda.

Fixed it for you Boco .

Re: Idaho Wolf Trapping banned [Re: Golf ball] #8105052
03/21/24 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Golf ball
Judges don’t know anything, they listen to two opposing arguments and decide which one is most politically correct and base they’re ruling on what fits their agenda.

Fixed it for you Boco .

No justice is blind.I stand by my statement before you changed it.What you said is what sore losers say.
If you have a corrupt or bias judge then that is a different problem and an appeal is the option.
Having a good lawyer/advocate/lobbyist is much more relevant.

Last edited by Boco; 03/21/24 01:43 PM.

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Re: Idaho Wolf Trapping banned [Re: Jmack] #8105061
03/21/24 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Jmack
Dirt they are furred out but in the upper Snake region where I am at we fight deep snow where trying to keep traps running is all but impossible. 500+ plus inches a winter is the norm. I wish I could say what I want to but it would definitely get me booted. I have nothing but good things to say for the ITA and Rusty and know he will keep fighting these lawsuits. We need to quit bickering and work together or for sure will fall like CO,OR,WA,and a few other states. Believe me, I was living in CO when the ani-trapping bills came out and all the (Sportsman) were so busy fighting each other and beating their chests that it was passed without incident.

When do your seasons run for cats marten fox etc?


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: Idaho Wolf Trapping banned [Re: caldwellite] #8105062
03/21/24 01:53 PM
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Such expertise on American judges- who knew?


“What’s good for me may not be good for the weak minded.”
Captain Gus McCrae- Texas Rangers


Re: Idaho Wolf Trapping banned [Re: Leftlane] #8105064
03/21/24 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Leftlane
Such expertise on American judges- who knew?

Dont you know why the lady justice(Justitia) has scales and a blindfold?
And what criteria do you believe is required to be knowledgeable?
You think only Americans are Knowledgeable about American issues because you are not knowledgeable about other countries?
That is telling.
Justitia and Prudentia predate the the USA by a few centuries,lol.

Last edited by Boco; 03/21/24 02:08 PM.

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