GFW beaver size
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Can someone explain how he does his measurements ? I noticed when I sold Sunday he measured front leg hole to opposite back leg hole . I had 4 that should have been in the 2x to 3x size they were 65” beaver but was thrown in with some 59” .
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Re: GFW beaver size
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I've never dealt with GFW, but in my experience buyers that did that did so because the pelt had a slightly irregular stretch ie: nose pushed out or tail end pushed out. If it had been me I would have challenged him on the spot about his measuring. But if the pelt had an irregular stretch that alternative measuring would be totally justified imho.
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Re: GFW beaver size
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I've never dealt with GFW, but in my experience buyers that did that did so because the pelt had a slightly irregular stretch ie: nose pushed out or tail end pushed out. If it had been me I would have challenged him on the spot about his measuring. But if the pelt had an irregular stretch that alternative measuring would be totally justified imho. He measured everybody’s stretched beaver that way .
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Re: GFW beaver size
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I've never dealt with GFW, but in my experience buyers that did that did so because the pelt had a slightly irregular stretch ie: nose pushed out or tail end pushed out. If it had been me I would have challenged him on the spot about his measuring. But if the pelt had an irregular stretch that alternative measuring would be totally justified imho. He measured everybody’s stretched beaver that way . Theoretically, if a pelt is stretched perfectly and with sufficient nails either measurement should yield the same result. And as NF stated, that measurement should be from the outside of the pelt, not from the leghole itself.
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Re: GFW beaver size
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I thought damage didnt matter for the hatter market,why would he be shortchanging on size for a defect in the leather. You wont realize a true grade on a green frozen skin either.
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Re: GFW beaver size
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Groeny and his math wizards already know what they're paying you per pelt avr on beaver when you walk up to the truck. Measuring leg hole to leg hole is slight of hand. Every magician and wizard has a mastery of it.
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Groeny and his math wizards already know what they're paying you per pelt avr on beaver when you walk up to the truck. Measuring leg hole to leg hole is slight of hand. Every magician and wizard has a mastery of it. Agree but it is a business and they need profit . Same with FHA . I sold to GFW got 42 for my otters average and the otter at FHA 24 bucks same size minus commissions
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For otters the internal craft trade is the far better market over the intl fur market at this time.
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That is true for a lot of pelts. It takes a while to develop alternative markets if you really want to make money outside the auction thru value added product.
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Groeny and his math wizards already know what they're paying you per pelt avr on beaver when you walk up to the truck. Measuring leg hole to leg hole is slight of hand. Every magician and wizard has a mastery of it. so were your pelts dried , or fresh frozen ? The time to question pricing is at the truck not over the internet and take the comments from Boco like a duck takes water to their backs
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For otters the internal craft trade is the far better market over the intl fur market at this time. That is true for a lot of pelts. It takes a while to develop alternative markets if you really want to make money outside the auction thru value added product. "That " is true for only certain areas of this continent and the overall amount of those species offered in the right sale venue. Many of ya'll are fortunate to be able to take advantage of the crafters. But, it's not reasonable to think we all can.
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Groeny and his math wizards already know what they're paying you per pelt avr on beaver when you walk up to the truck. Measuring leg hole to leg hole is slight of hand. Every magician and wizard has a mastery of it. so were your pelts dried , or fresh frozen ? The time to question pricing is at the truck not over the internet and take the comments from Boco like a duck takes water to their backs I think we can assume those were stretched and dried pelts since Tommie said stretched pelts. Don't know why you made the disparaging remark about Boco's post. ???
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Can someone explain how he does his measurements ? I noticed when I sold Sunday he measured front leg hole to opposite back leg hole . I had 4 that should have been in the 2x to 3x size but wasn’t they was 65” beaver but was thrown in with some 59” . He measured them? Is his scale broken?
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