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Re: If you could do it all over again...?
[Re: Dirty D]
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04/10/24 12:19 PM
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A college degree is not worth nearly what is was a few years ago, unless you are aiming at a particular career such as law, medicine, etc..
The trades are where the big money is now. Very few people want to really work; that is, to be productive.
In my part of the Country, guys who are motivated and not afraid to work are pulling down six figure incomes in their early 20's, doing things like flooring installation, tile, interior painting, radiant heat, kitchen remodel, real estate services, etc..
I hate to say it, but I wouldn't recommend the military to any young person today. I may change my opinion if the political climate makes a big and permanent change. The few career military folks I know are all scrambling to retire due to the woke direction the military is taking. I have one friend who has been in for 20 years, he has about 800 guys under him, he is now taking orders from a 23 year old lesbian. I agree with this. College is a waste of money and time for most of the degrees, only ones worth anything are in the STEM fields. Another advantage of the trades is its easy to start your own business and or do moonlighting depending upon your field. As far the Military my Son who just got done with 20 in the Navy says the same thing, its becoming a joke. No matter which way one goes the secret to doing well is not as much as what you do but how you do it. Put your hours in, watch and learn form others while keeping your trap shut, always try to do better, admit your mistakes freely and be willing to do more. Your investing in yourself, if your current job doesn't pan out quit and change jobs, leave on good terms. Bosses, workers and customers talk to each other, if your a stand up guy the word gets out, will always have people willing to hire you. Well my 28 year old son got a degree in Business Management/Sales, he has made over $100K every year and will make roughly $300K this year IF he does next to nothing the rest of the year. This influx is due to a big Ford project so he'll be back to his measley $150K again. He sells dock equipment for Arbon/Right Height. My 30 year old daughter got her degree in Business Management/HR (like her mom) and is now in charge of HR, Benefits and Payroll at Carter Lumber. She makes roughly $120K a year plus gets 4 lump bonuses which are roughly $10-$15K each. She is on their stock plan where she has to contribute nothing and is estimated to be worth several million when she retires. We live 20 minutes from Akron University so I told them both we'll pay half their tuition but if they want to live on campus thats all on them. They both graduated with less than $20K debt. SO I would be very hesitant to say college is a waste of money. But I get you that there are many degrees that I wouldn't have let my kids go after?
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Re: If you could do it all over again...?
[Re: Gary Benson]
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04/10/24 01:23 PM
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Back in 86 or 87 an AM country radio station had Earl Pitts American on every day and he had a lot of fun with yuppies who bought water in a bottle when it was free from the tap.
I should have invested a couple of grand in one of the companies doing it. Probably be worth millions now.
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Re: If you could do it all over again...?
[Re: bass10]
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04/10/24 02:11 PM
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Well my 28 year old son got a degree in Business Management/Sales, he has made over $100K every year and will make roughly $300K this year IF he does next to nothing the rest of the year. This influx is due to a big Ford
project so he'll be back to his measley $150K again. He sells dock equipment for Arbon/Right Height. My 30 year old daughter got her degree in Business Management/HR (like her mom) and is now in charge of HR, Benefits and
Payroll at Carter Lumber. She makes roughly $120K a year plus gets 4 lump bonuses which are roughly $10-$15K each. She is on their stock plan where she has to contribute nothing and is estimated to be worth several million
when she retires. We live 20 minutes from Akron University so I told them both we'll pay half their tuition but if they want to live on campus thats all on them. They both graduated with less than $20K debt. SO I would be very hesitant
to say college is a waste of money. But I get you that there are many degrees that I wouldn't have let my kids go after?
Very good for your kids. The average for Business management degrees is alot less than what your kids are making. I suspect your kids are go getters and that has more to do with what they make then the degree. More often than not the degree gets them in the door, After that its on the individuals. I suspect your kids are well above average.
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Re: If you could do it all over again...?
[Re: Dirty D]
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04/10/24 02:28 PM
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Well my 28 year old son got a degree in Business Management/Sales, he has made over $100K every year and will make roughly $300K this year IF he does next to nothing the rest of the year. This influx is due to a big Ford
project so he'll be back to his measley $150K again. He sells dock equipment for Arbon/Right Height. My 30 year old daughter got her degree in Business Management/HR (like her mom) and is now in charge of HR, Benefits and
Payroll at Carter Lumber. She makes roughly $120K a year plus gets 4 lump bonuses which are roughly $10-$15K each. She is on their stock plan where she has to contribute nothing and is estimated to be worth several million
when she retires. We live 20 minutes from Akron University so I told them both we'll pay half their tuition but if they want to live on campus thats all on them. They both graduated with less than $20K debt. SO I would be very hesitant
to say college is a waste of money. But I get you that there are many degrees that I wouldn't have let my kids go after?
Very good for your kids. The average for Business management degrees is alot less than what your kids are making. I suspect your kids are go getters and that has more to do with what they make then the degree. More often than not the degree gets them in the door, After that its on the individuals. I suspect your kids are well above average. Well you are right there. One of my best friends son graduated from Ohio State University with a degree in videography. He bragged how he graduated in 3 years (took college classes in HS). I don't ask much about him as its a sore subject with him but last I checked he was still living in moms house delivering pizzas at age 27. On the other hand there may be cases of kids doing really well with that degree??
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Re: If you could do it all over again...?
[Re: Gary Benson]
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04/10/24 03:38 PM
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If I was going to live forever....sure ..
I would have chose a different path.
But...we don't live forever....and wouldn't change a thing
Got to see both my sons baseball games...soccer games...4H Fairs... everything...
Because I wasn't working for the man.
Seen plenty of my friends sacrifice family for the all mighty dollar..
Work 60 hours per week....then Drop dead at 63...and nevah enjoyed anything.
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Re: If you could do it all over again...?
[Re: Gary Benson]
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04/10/24 03:50 PM
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Why be the richest man in the cemetery ?
It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
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Re: If you could do it all over again...?
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04/10/24 04:40 PM
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The title reminds me of the Robert Frost poem, "The Road Not Taken".
I would do a total reversal of what I did after I graduated high school.
The difference between animals and humans is that animals would never let the dumbest ones lead the pack.
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