It started in the woman movement of the 70s when they burned there bra!. Woman and men are not alike. This woke world tells them they are look at the science.

I agree with women missing more work. Also have noticed a bunch of guys can work together great till you start putting women in the mix. Next thing you know everyone is bitchin about eachother. Just like animals. You throw a female in the mix and the males start fighting.

^^^ well stated^^^ can't get around human nature. I've had subtle advances from some very attractive women, in the workplace. Coworker and client. and they knew I was married. I'll pass. 5 minutes of fun followed by a lifetime of punishment. Had one oompa loompa buy me lunch. She offered and I don't pass up a free lunch. She brought lunch back to the house, Somehow I started talking about my wife, oh boy did she change her demeanor. That's when I realized she was trying to soften me up. Awhile later after the job was done boss said she accused me of stealing her furniture. What a nut.

Have worked with a few that were nice to be downwind of.

Of course in my younger days.

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Sounds so simple tell you HAVE to work side by side with them. Then you just be polite and do your best to keep away and talk highly about your wife intentionally to send the clear message.

Ya some how that's seen as a challenge, another woman has you so you are seen as higher value, then there is they like to feel desired so if they are hot enough to get you away from your wife they must be superior. So a challenge and ego boost in one. Since you don't hit on her she starts to think is there is something wrong with me I must not be attractive and insecure daddy issues. So she gets more friendly starts following you around and every time you turn around there she is.

Now a few things happen. Both the guys and other girls notice her following you around. The guys sniffing around her interested get jealous ( causing issues), the women start making comments about her following you around and then seem a bit more friendly themselves. Another prehistoric psychological trait. Eventually she figures out you not ever going to be Interested and even though you never once gave her a hint there was a chance or you were ever interested she some how sees that as rejection like you had been going out and just dumped her and then you have to deal with that type of attitude from her for months at work.

Until you experienced it a few times I guess you can't understand. Many people fall victim to it and end up cheating because let's face it thing get in a rut and it feels good to feel desired and wanted.

I find it best just to stay away from being alone with any woman that's not my wife. But today having other around won't stop them from making sexual charged comments and flirting. And I will do about anything possible to avoid having to work with a woman because of it. Now not all women are a problem and there are plenty of men I don't want to work around. But the men I can tell off or even put on the ground . You just can't handle or speak to a woman like you can a man.

Put a woman in a combat unit. She can't pack the weight so it's now packed by the men. Young woman around young men and it won't be long before intimate relationships develop. Then jealousy comes out and a unit cohesion is destroyed. It's primal men go off to war women stay home. Men don't psychologically react the same to a buddy get blown apart versus a woman or the same when they get captured. There's a reason gender roles of existed for millennia and we all have our roles. There are exceptions and some cross over but men are men and women are women. We haven't changed in thousand of years regardless of what modern independent woman want to believe. Even lesbian couples one assumes the typically male roll.

Sure I can cook well but my wife enjoys it and is better at it. Just like I'm better at cutting fire wood, putting on a new roof and operating equipment. One thing is not more important we compliment each other as a team. I do what I'm good at she does what she excellent at and I help her and she does me. That's what it's all about.

Had a pro woman feminist boss for a few years before she was finally fired. she would have been fired sooner but she was sleeping with one of the top guys. One day I was talking with a coworker when my daughter was working on her pilots license . The boss overheard and chimes in how " that's good we need more wen in that field". Now this woman was late 20's single mom and often vented frustration over the challenge. I looked her dead in the eye and with authority told her no what we need are more women that want be wife's to stay home and be moms and raise their kids. I figured I may end up in the office. She was shocked. I pointed out her struggle as well as my sister's being single mom's and how much easier it is with a dad in the home for emotional and financial support and directly asked her if she thought I was wrong and it wouldn't be much easier and better for her to not have all the responsibility on her shoulders. She nearly short circuit because I hit on single mom struggles she agreed with then the difference from being raised by a single mom myself watching my sister's struggle and the difference my wife and kids and my home has.

She started crying broke down and left

The woman that i have encountered on the job site all needed help with the task at hand. I almost felt bad for them.

That's the truth.

we live in a world today where people are encouraged to think higher of themselves than they ought too....plus there is a lot of other very bad stuff going on. Ain't gonna end well and that is a fact.

That's been my experience, if you don't give them any place to start they will leave you alone. The younger ones don't catch on as fast once they target you.

There was a lot of social changes following WW2. I knew a lady that was a welder in Evansville ship yard while her husband was in France and other places fighting. Women worked just about all the jobs to keep the war machine going, and I guess they weren't that bad, we won. The lady I knew came back here after it was over and her husband welded on the pipelines and she raised the family and never worked publicly again. Her husband made a preacher later in their lives. Many said women were never the same after they had that taste of freedom in the work force.

For any job out there you don't think a woman can do I'm sure there is a woman that could do it and most likely surprise you. I will give you that there may be fewer of them for whatever task you dream up but not all woman are the same, just like all men aren't the same and it is wrong to assume so. There are scrawny pencil neck men just like there are tough hardworking woman too. You can't just blindly say no woman can do this or that, it just plain isn't accurate and chances are there is some woman somewhere that can. Anytime you say any group of people 100% can or can not do something then you just haven't considered everything and lack knowledge. Its no different than saying all men/woman/blacks/whites/purples are this way or that way or can or can't do this or that. The simple fact is that you don't know all woman and you are lumping every one of them into the same category and that just isn't fair or a knowledgeable thing to do. Sure there may be a woman on a job that can't do a physical task of some kind. I guess you could point them out. Just like there is a man on a job somewhere that can't complete a mental one. Be sure to point them out too. Imagine if your thread title was black people in construction. Same thing. You probably need to venture outside your bubble a little bit and meet some new people and have some new experiences. Tell Angela or Sharon or Patrice on here they can't do something b/c they are a woman and I bet you'd have a sure fire situation on your hands where they'd be sure to prove you wrong. I have a 15 yo daughter and I wouldn't suggest you telling her what she can and can't do b/c she's a woman. Good luck to you and wish you the best.

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I've worked with lots of women in my steel work career, some were terrific at welding and handling the work, some could not handle the work, just like men, problems always developed when men tried to be overly friendly to most of them, due to the men being so egotiscal it was a giant joke in the shops !

Most of the women just wanted a paycheck like everyone else, were there to do the work, with whom ever they were assigned with, as most of my work in the steel trade was always two together for safety reasons. Were they chatty, some times they were, but I'm not a chatty person, so they did not last with me and always desired to move to another area or partner, no problem, I found the problems always started with guys hitting on them or jealous of me having a knockout looker working with me, men just can't help but be feral all the time around women it seems !

I always seen more trouble caused by the men than women, always barging in trying to help them or trying to be the target of them by being the " guy" for them. LOL Always got a big laugh out it as well.

Were some not able to do the heavy work, most times they did require help on certain applications, but after learning the process were on their own as well. They came in all size's as well, did not matter to some guys, it seemed like a challenge for the men to get the women to talk with them and would pester the crap out of them for attention, yet then say they were not looking for it.

In my work now at the mine here in the valley, same thing happens, in the shop, 4 separate shift crews and only my crew has no women, but wow did those others crews suddenly develop a problem with guys wanting to be on their crews for overtime, before the women were in the shop, no one even wanted over time LOL, now a rule states you can only work so much OT with each crew so others have a chance at signing up for it, now the women shift around and come on my crew for OT, yep feral dogs start wagging their tails !!

I don't fall for the conversations that say it's always the woman's fault, seen to many calm men go feral when one shows up on the crew !!