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Non target coon in mink blind sets #8142124
05/20/24 09:10 PM
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What is your ratio of non target coons caught in blind sets for mink?

Re: Non target coon in mink blind sets [Re: Mainelogger] #8142153
05/20/24 09:50 PM
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Not very high. But if there is bait involved that goes up.

Re: Non target coon in mink blind sets [Re: Mainelogger] #8142241
05/21/24 05:16 AM
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Mine is pretty high. I use muskrat hind quarters in my pocket sets though so that is attractive to most anything and on my blind sets with a foothold on the trail you never know what you can get. And when fur was high I loved picking up more coon then mink lol


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Re: Non target coon in mink blind sets [Re: Mainelogger] #8142292
05/21/24 07:50 AM
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Fairly high for me and our coon population is down! Blind, trail sets... even hugging tight to the bank produces quite a few coon.

Re: Non target coon in mink blind sets [Re: Mainelogger] #8142361
05/21/24 10:34 AM
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IF . . . . a blind set for mink includes #150s on KB stabilizers and colony traps in bottom edge sets, then the answer is zero.

On the other hand, any foothold set for mink is attached to a drowner system that will drown 'coon. If there's doubt the mink will have no difficulty with accessing deep water then a #1 coil spring replaces the #1 1/2 CS.

I make full use of our 4-day check and do not wish to jeopardize this by not considering a mink/muskrat catch foremost.


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Re: Non target coon in mink blind sets [Re: Mainelogger] #8142386
05/21/24 11:36 AM
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Only in my dreams...4 day check law.....24 hrs here on everything....grrrr

Re: Non target coon in mink blind sets [Re: Muskrat] #8142511
05/21/24 05:32 PM
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That is actually the direction I was headed with this question. I have a 5 day check in unorganized townships with lethal trapping methods (conibear, drowning sets) so I check my marten/fisher line every 3-4 days. I blind set for mink with 110s a long the way mostly bottom edge sets but would like to add a few footholds to the mix. A #1 or 1.5 on a long cable is plenty to drown any mink or muskrat but the chance of a coon waiting for me is probably slim but still exists. Just wanted to hear others experience.

Re: Non target coon in mink blind sets [Re: Mainelogger] #8142791
05/22/24 08:45 AM
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I don't make too many blind sets or pocket sets because of coon. I try to clear some coon out before our water trapping season begins here in MI but coon always seem to find my sets.

If I'm going for mink, I use a bottom edge set.

There is a set I'd like to try where you cut out a notch in a log, bed a trap in the notch, tie the log off and let it float on the inside bend of a creek/river. Herb Lenon used such a set and according to him the set worked quite well on mink and muskrat.

Re: Non target coon in mink blind sets [Re: General Ottsc] #8142837
05/22/24 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by General Ottsc
. . . There is a set I'd like to try where you cut out a notch in a log, bed a trap in the notch, tie the log off and let it float on the inside bend of a creek/river. Herb Lenon used such a set and according to him the set worked quite well on mink and muskrat.


If you're looking to target mink only, try this set first. Much less screwing around.

A mink swimming upstream showed this to me years ago. There he swam along the bank's edge 'til he got to the outside bend. Repeat . . . outside bend. It was steep with swift current.

He hesitated a bit, then climbed the bank and ran along this vertical bank til the narrow river straightened out again, then back into the drink. It appeared from where I was in the boat maybe twenty yards away that he was on a trail about halfway up the bank.

I fired up the motor and eased over there, maintaining position with the current. There it was, a narrow trail running the length of the outside bend, dipping down to the water at both ends. I filed this away.

Tinkered with various setups til I came up with what I use today. A #150 holder attached to a sharpened length of lath. This gets shoved into the bank above the trail. The #150 is suspended just a little above the path, maybe a half inch. The #150 is wired off to a stub, limb, or a stake with enough wire for the trap, when fired, to tumble into the water. A drowning set with a four day check here in Wisconsin.

You need to be sure there's no debris below to hang the catch up negating the submergent set. Once you figure these out it will be like the first time your eyes opened up to the bottom edge set. No 'coon.

These sets are repeaters for years. If you've got an outside bend with no trail . . . create one. If you're working out of a boat like I do, there's always room for a 5-gallon bucket with a handful of these sets ready to go. Try it, you'll like it.

High enough up the bank, varying water levels do not affect this set. Neither does rain, snow, or freezing temps. No bait necessary. You can check it while motoring by without worrying about your wake washing it out like a pocket set. And mostly thief proof.

Works for me.



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Re: Non target coon in mink blind sets [Re: Mainelogger] #8142891
05/22/24 12:19 PM
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As long as you have any kind of coon population it’s nearly impossible to keep them out of any foothold set bait or no bait.

Re: Non target coon in mink blind sets [Re: Mainelogger] #8142915
05/22/24 01:06 PM
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Rat that's a great mink set If you can find them.
My experience tells me that most if not all mink won't go through a small culvert and even some larger ones they will refuse to go through. In all situations there will be a take out at the entrance to that culvert. Now you can set that up with a foot hold In the water or a BG up In that dry land trail. And there are 100s of culverts along the roads so It's easy to find these locations. Getting the mink drowned and out of sight Is another issue.


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Re: Non target coon in mink blind sets [Re: backroadsarcher] #8143451
05/23/24 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by backroadsarcher
Not very high. But if there is bait involved that goes up.



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Most of my sets are bottom edge sets so i don't get many coons on my mink line


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Re: Non target coon in mink blind sets [Re: Mainelogger] #8145348
05/27/24 01:19 AM
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Like others. I catch too many coon in them. So use bottom edge sets on them.

Re: Non target coon in mink blind sets [Re: plainstrapping25] #8145351
05/27/24 01:29 AM
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I used mink blind sets and caught a beaver your doing something wrong


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Re: Non target coon in mink blind sets [Re: Mainelogger] #8145434
05/27/24 09:05 AM
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I run a lot of blind sets for mink with 110s on my coyote line. I pick them up way out in fields if there are little water ways and drianages through the fields. Grassy fencerows work too. If there is coon sign I use 160s to catch either coon or mink. Other wise I just run 110s and it works for me.
I stake the 110s well just in case but usually haven’t had issues with coon and we have a jillion coon around here. 110s usually won’t hold coon when they stumble through and these small traps have killed some pretty big male mink for me over the years. I pick tiny trickles of water or grassy water ways with little trails in them no wider than the 110. Block it down if needed too. Makes a fun side line to the coyote traps I am already out checking in same fields anyway. When I am trapping coon I hit the creeks and culverts, but to just hit mink it’s OK to get off the beaten path a little. I am not much of a water trapper and by time I hit the coyotes the smaller creeks and ponds are all froze up here anyway. Dryland blind sets work well for me.
FYI, when I sold fur late this winter, I had one mink I picked up in a blind set with a 110 and well over 1/2 mile from nearest water source. 27 coon, 3 cats, a badger, and a bunch of unsellable coyotes. All those in footholds. But the mink was a target catch in a blind set 110 in a small trail through a weedy fencerow.
My buyer said it was the first mink he bought here all season…and I sold the last day of season here at end of February.

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Re: Non target coon in mink blind sets [Re: Mainelogger] #8145455
05/27/24 09:43 AM
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No blind sets for me. 100 percent pockets with carp. I've been working on excluding con from them. I run about 1.7 coon to 1 mink. If coon prices ever increase that ratio could easily increase to 5 to 1.


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Re: Non target coon in mink blind sets [Re: Mainelogger] #8145747
05/27/24 08:43 PM
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You need to set more traps on your mink line.Make coon sets to take the coon out at the locations where they plug your mink sets.Alternatively.set a couple more mink sets where coon are thicker so you always have traps working for your mink on multi day checks,

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Re: Non target coon in mink blind sets [Re: Mainelogger] #8146029
05/28/24 10:35 AM
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Boco you have no Idea of coon density In some places In the Lower 48.
A friend of mine caught 32 coon In 15 days In DPs and never moved a single trap.
But I guess I would rather catch 30 coon then 30 mink. Nov and Dec caught coon will be worth more money then the same mink. But of coarse there's a bit more work putting up those coon.


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Re: Non target coon in mink blind sets [Re: Mainelogger] #8146037
05/28/24 10:52 AM
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Some blind sets are more coon proof than others. problem is they dont take as many mink or you have to spend more time looking for them/getting to them than most production trappers want.

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