Re: China selling US dept
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05/22/24 08:11 PM
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Well I guess y'all called that on the split.
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Re: China selling US dept
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05/23/24 07:47 PM
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Re: China selling US dept
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05/23/24 08:08 PM
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So why is everything besides NVDA and a few others down so much today? Just because of the hot PMI report? Nvidia blowing away expectations and all three major indices (and most cryptos) closing the day in the red isn't what I envisioned for today.
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Re: China selling US dept
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05/23/24 08:56 PM
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Long weekend,,,,? China surrounding Taiwan,,,? Bird flu apocalypse,,,,?
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Re: China selling US dept
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05/23/24 10:00 PM
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You think the economy is in a recession now?
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Re: China selling US dept
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05/24/24 02:37 PM
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Higher for longer is right. Now the speculation is September. I'd say these "high" rates are as transitory as inflation.
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Re: China selling US dept
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05/24/24 06:38 PM
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Higher for longer is right. Now the speculation is September. I'd say these "high" rates are as transitory as inflation. I don't see them lowering rates in September. Maybe November... Just my guess.
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Re: China selling US dept
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05/24/24 07:13 PM
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If current conditions hold, the market will see to it rates hold. Dimon says there is a chance the Fed will increase IMHO they aren't high enough.
Angela although the data doesn't support us being in a recession, much of America doesn't feel that way.
401k hardship withdrawals are at a record level, credit card debt is at a record, savings rates have fallen, car loan delinquencies are up, Buy now pay later is up.
I'm happy for me my kids are adults and pretty much off my payroll.
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Re: China selling US dept
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05/24/24 07:58 PM
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If current conditions hold, the market will see to it rates hold. Dimon says there is a chance the Fed will increase IMHO they aren't high enough.
Angela although the data doesn't support us being in a recession, much of America doesn't feel that way.
401k hardship withdrawals are at a record level, credit card debt is at a record, savings rates have fallen, car loan delinquencies are up, Buy now pay later is up.
I'm happy for me my kids are adults and pretty much off my payroll. Steven, I get what you're saying. Just curious though, how much of that do you contribute to the sustained higher prices from inflation and how much do you contribute it to the instant gratification generation overextending themselves by buying on credit things they have no right to be buying?
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Re: China selling US dept
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05/24/24 08:39 PM
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Instant gratification generation? Or generations?
I believe inflation is a direct result of an increase of the money supply attributed wholly to the government and the Federal Reserve. We have transitioned to a consumer economy. Where would our economy be without instant gratification consumers
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Re: China selling US dept
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