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Re: Best bang for the buck pellet rifle? [Re: Gary Benson] #8142350
05/21/24 09:57 AM
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I would not be too quick to write off the break barrel springers. Not the cheap box store junk, but higher end stuff like Beeman, Air Arms, Diana, Walther, RWS, etc. None of the issues with scuba tanks or pumping them up......and some are incredibly accurate. Some are one hole wonders at 30 feet. If the scope is built for the double recoil, they do fine.

Used to go to a place that had about 20 martin houses that were infested with starlings. Blind was the front seat of my truck. Used a Beeman HW77 to pick them off out to 100 feet or so.

Starlings are smart. When the shooting starts, you can pick them off pretty easy. But It only took them 15 to 20 birds down to figure out where the danger was coming from. If they came in at all, and you moved, they would be gone. Have had a bunch of starling shoots and pattern repeats itself. They figure it out and word spreads. Incredibly smart birds.

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Re: Best bang for the buck pellet rifle? [Re: Gary Benson] #8142396
05/21/24 12:12 PM
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I have a Sheridan and RWS

Re: Best bang for the buck pellet rifle? [Re: HayDay] #8142697
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Originally Posted by HayDay
I would not be too quick to write off the break barrel springers. Not the cheap box store junk, but higher end stuff like Beeman, Air Arms, Diana, Walther, RWS, etc. None of the issues with scuba tanks or pumping them up......and some are incredibly accurate. Some are one hole wonders at 30 feet. If the scope is built for the double recoil, they do fine.

Used to go to a place that had about 20 martin houses that were infested with starlings. Blind was the front seat of my truck. Used a Beeman HW77 to pick them off out to 100 feet or so.

Starlings are smart. When the shooting starts, you can pick them off pretty easy. But It only took them 15 to 20 birds down to figure out where the danger was coming from. If they came in at all, and you moved, they would be gone. Have had a bunch of starling shoots and pattern repeats itself. They figure it out and word spreads. Incredibly smart birds.

They are incredibly smart birds. I had several pairs nesting in trees around my house. I use my Beeman Chief PCP air rifle to try and control them. I swear they know when I have the gun out. If I just outside without it they will fly in and land close, but If I have the gun in hand they will not even come in and land at all.

Re: Best bang for the buck pellet rifle? [Re: Gary Benson] #8142859
05/22/24 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Originally Posted by Scout1
Crossman 2100 will serve you well. 10 pumps and a pellet. I killed a ton of squirrels with mine a long time ago.

Thank you. Will it hold a scope?

I don't know if it will as I'm not familiar with that brand of rifle. I had a couple RWS pellet rifles. I do know you need a special scope made for pellet rifles, a regular scope doesn't work. At least on my RWS rifles it wouldn't stay zeroed until I got a pellet rifle scope. Something to do with the type of recoil I was told.


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Re: Best bang for the buck pellet rifle? [Re: Gary Benson] #8149341
06/03/24 09:46 PM
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So I ended up getting a Gamo Whisper .177. It's a great tool but I don't care for the 10 round "magazine". It's dead on at 20 yds at minimum and there's some pests in danger.


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Re: Best bang for the buck pellet rifle? [Re: Gary Benson] #8149351
06/03/24 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Trapper7
Originally Posted by Scout1
Crossman 2100 will serve you well. 10 pumps and a pellet. I killed a ton of squirrels with mine a long time ago.

I don't know if it will as I'm not familiar with that brand of rifle. I had a couple RWS pellet rifles. I do know you need a special scope made for pellet rifles, a regular scope doesn't work. At least on my RWS rifles it wouldn't stay zeroed until I got a pellet rifle scope. Something to do with the type of recoil I was told.


Springers are notorious for their double back and forth whiplash recoil destroying scopes. They also need to be held a certain way to counter that recoil for maximum accuracy.

PCP and pumps do not have the moving spring so do not have the recoil issues, standard scopes will suffice.

The crosman 2100 has a standard dovetail for tip off mounts and new come with a small scope.


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Re: Best bang for the buck pellet rifle? [Re: HayDay] #8149353
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Originally Posted by HayDay
I would not be too quick to write off the break barrel springers. Not the cheap box store junk, but higher end stuff like Beeman, Air Arms, Diana, Walther, RWS, etc. None of the issues with scuba tanks or pumping them up......and some are incredibly accurate. Some are one hole wonders at 30 feet. If the scope is built for the double recoil, they do fine.

Used to go to a place that had about 20 martin houses that were infested with starlings. Blind was the front seat of my truck. Used a Beeman HW77 to pick them off out to 100 feet or so.

Starlings are smart. When the shooting starts, you can pick them off pretty easy. But It only took them 15 to 20 birds down to figure out where the danger was coming from. If they came in at all, and you moved, they would be gone. Have had a bunch of starling shoots and pattern repeats itself. They figure it out and word spreads. Incredibly smart birds.


Starlings in martin gourds was my first paying NWCO gig. Eight years old and my neighbor would give me a dime for every starling shot off his gourds.


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Re: Best bang for the buck pellet rifle? [Re: Gary Benson] #8149368
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Good investment!


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Re: Best bang for the buck pellet rifle? [Re: Gary Benson] #8149370
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You got paid?


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Re: Best bang for the buck pellet rifle? [Re: HayDay] #8149375
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Originally Posted by HayDay
You got paid?


Dad wouldn't have we were his field hands. The neighbor was a classmate of my grandfather, we had mostly older neighbors and my hustle was odd jobs, grass cutting and selling blackberries and muscadines. We didn't get an allowance so cash had to be earned however you found it.


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Re: Best bang for the buck pellet rifle? [Re: Brian Mongeau] #8150015
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Originally Posted by Brian Mongeau

The only birds with no regulations are English Sparrows, European Starlings, and pigeons. All feral birds.


Add Ringneck Doves to the list. Another invasive species. Also called the Eurasian Dove.

Re: Best bang for the buck pellet rifle? [Re: Gary Benson] #8150026
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Roger that. I like robins too but they're the first at dawn and last at night to stop with the chatter.
It's annoying at times. As is a mockingbird.


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Re: Best bang for the buck pellet rifle? [Re: MTHunter] #8150051
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Originally Posted by MTHunter
Originally Posted by Brian Mongeau

The only birds with no regulations are English Sparrows, European Starlings, and pigeons. All feral birds.


Add Ringneck Doves to the list. Another invasive species. Also called the Eurasian Dove.

They are protected in some states. In ND ( Some other states are the same) we have a season that runs with the morning dove season and they are counted as part of your morning dove limit. A few years ago it was open season all year and no limit.


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