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Re: 2A Political thread.
[Re: MJM]
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06/11/24 09:42 PM
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If Trump runs with Bergum, it would be hard for me to vote for him. I know the way Bergum runs ND. He is a D claiming to be a R. Really? You’d vote for Biden instead? Or waste your vote?
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Re: 2A Political thread.
[Re: bucksnbears]
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06/12/24 04:43 AM
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If you vote for the uniparty your wasting your vote
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: 2A Political thread.
[Re: WhiteCliffs]
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06/12/24 08:55 AM
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Elise Stefanik - supposedly strong 2A supporter, woman, well liked in New York, holds some fairly high positions in the house - does not seem like she scores very high on the crazy scale She wasn't a huge Trump supporter back in his first term but she seems to have come around strongly for Trump. One wonders but I think she's legit in her support and not just on the bandwagon.
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Re: 2A Political thread.
[Re: bucksnbears]
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06/12/24 02:54 PM
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If Trump runs with Bergum, it would be hard for me to vote for him. I know the way Bergum runs ND. He is a D claiming to be a R. My gutt feeling also Mark. Does this mean you'll burn your vote on a 3rd party candidate, vote for sleepy Joe, or not cast your vote at all ???  w
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Re: 2A Political thread.
[Re: warrior]
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06/12/24 03:28 PM
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Elise Stefanik - supposedly strong 2A supporter, woman, well liked in New York, holds some fairly high positions in the house - does not seem like she scores very high on the crazy scale but she seems to have come around strongly for Trump. One wonders but I think she's legit in her support and not just on the bandwagon. She is my congressional representative in Northern New York, and she is & has been an ardent Trump supporter since day one !!!  w
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Re: 2A Political thread.
[Re: bucksnbears]
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06/12/24 03:36 PM
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I wouldn't sweat the second seat as much as I would just getting the right man elected to the first chair.
If you look back over the history of the Republic the guy in the second seat has a less than 20% chance needing to step up as a spare (9) and exactly the same (9) of getting elected to the first chair in their own right. But there is about a 30% chance a second seater will become a first chair (15).
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Re: 2A Political thread.
[Re: warrior]
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06/12/24 06:18 PM
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I wouldn't sweat the second seat as much as I would just getting the right man elected to the first chair.
If you look back over the history of the Republic the guy in the second seat has a less than 20% chance needing to step up as a spare (9) and exactly the same (9) of getting elected to the first chair in their own right. But there is about a 30% chance a second seater will become a first chair (15).
Probably of more importance is getting the right folks into Congress, and not ol'buddy that brings home the bacon either. We need fighters that refuse to play by the swamp rules. And I don't care what party they call themselves as long as it ain't demoncrat. Guys, and gals, if 2A and the rest of the Constitution is to be saved we've got to vote and vote hard for candidates who put the Constitution first and foremost, ALL OF IT, ahead of party or personal gain.
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Re: 2A Political thread.
[Re: walleyed]
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06/12/24 07:45 PM
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Does this mean you'll burn your vote on a 3rd party candidate, vote for sleepy Joe, or not cast your vote at all ??? w Bergum is a young Joe Biden. They is no way I would vote for Bergum for anything. He is a good buddy of one world order Bill Gates. I would not vote before I vote for him or Joe. I have seen his ways in ND. Do you really think we are going to vote ourselves out of this mess? That is just what the want you to think. It buys them another four year/ Maybe next time?
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Re: 2A Political thread.
[Re: bucksnbears]
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06/12/24 08:13 PM
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Mark, I will vote Trump 100% no matter who he picks.
That being said, I'm not sure "why" I don't like Burgum?.
Overall, ND is a GREAT state but something about him makes me wonder?
What is it you don't like about him?
Is he a strong 2A supporter?
swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo
You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
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Re: 2A Political thread.
[Re: warrior]
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06/12/24 08:25 PM
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Kristi Noem. He will sweep all of the swing States, especially the ones with female Democrat governors. Nope, she has done shot herself in the dog so to speak. She'll lose the female vote. That story is so yesterday no one will remember it. The women who have a problem with how work is done on a farm will likely vote for Biden no matter who he picks.
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Re: 2A Political thread.
[Re: bucksnbears]
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06/12/24 08:27 PM
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I'd be shocked if they pick Bergeum. What does he bring to the table?
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Re: 2A Political thread.
[Re: Steven 49er]
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06/12/24 08:49 PM
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I'd be shocked if they pick Bergeum. What does he bring to the table? My guess is he's a good business man and not a career politician. Which ain't all bad.
swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo
You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
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Re: 2A Political thread.
[Re: bucksnbears]
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06/12/24 09:08 PM
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I'd be shocked if they pick Bergeum. What does he bring to the table? My guess is he's a good business man and not a career politician. Which ain't all bad. Vivek fills that slot well plus he's young and connects with younger voters. He's also very engaging on the stump. Berghum strikes me as just a stump. A wealthy stump.
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