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Artifact hunting #8155160
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Found this today, suspect it's Paleo?

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Very nice.

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Hard to say whether it is Paleoindian or not.
I do not see any obvious attributes suggesting it to being that old.

Re: Artifact hunting [Re: nate] #8155298
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This is a good site on Native American artifact identification. I'm a member. Someone there can identify your find for you.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/112067978830753/

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Nate,
Your point does appear to be an early triangle point, possibly Paleo. It also looks similar to the Hardaway type, which are Dalton-era (9,000 years old +/-)


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Re: Artifact hunting [Re: nate] #8155428
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Keith I don't have FB , So that's out, the blade is worked very well, I said Paleo but do agree with swamp wolf it might be transitional/Dalton as well, it is unifaced and very well put together, I have found a couple others close there that are of the Dalton style. Hope you all enjoy seeing it.

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Re: Artifact hunting [Re: nate] #8155475
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Uniface eliminates the Hardaway idea.

Still could be a Paleo tool.


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Swamp wolf what you think I got here found this right in the same area as the other. I was guessing early archaic or transitional points as well?? It has very nice flaking not easily seen in the picture.

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The base corner is knocked off. It's a very thin point.

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Re: Artifact hunting [Re: nate] #8155689
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I think you may be correct, especially with it being found in same area as the other. Late Paleo or early Archaic.

But, it's just a guess. Projectiles similarly shaped were made/used in every time period, as were uniface blades.

I'm not as familiar with midwest types as I am with southeastern US types. Due to the lithics used down here (mostly coral agate), it is easier to see the knapping characteristics than on other materials that are less glass-like. So, it's just a guess, unless there is context.


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Nate,
This is a poster that Kevin Dowdy of Bainbridge, Ga put together a few years ago. He photographed points from many Southeastern collections. The Suwannee point (red arrows) is one in my collection that my son found in a local river here. I've found a few other solid Paleo. One other (large 1st stage museum quality Dalton) has made it into one of his ID books. Also, I found a double fluted Clovis that has been photographed and documented by the University of Georgia.

Check out Kevin's stuff at www.artifactsguide.com

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Wow, what a collection. Very cool information you just shared, I appreciate it. If you have pics of your double flutted Clovis would love to see it. Your boy's point is awesome.
Thank you

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Re: Artifact hunting [Re: nate] #8156067
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Found this in southeast Texas on my deer lease. I look for them every time I'm out there but not very successful at it.


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Good one, thanks for sharing.

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Originally Posted by nate
Wow, what a collection. Very cool information you just shared, I appreciate it. If you have pics of your double flutted Clovis would love to see it. Your boy's point is awesome.
Thank you

I'll take some pics and post soon....


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Playing around with AI tonight.....

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that's just wrong...

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Great points guys.

I wish I had a collection anything like that poster. Super fine points. Most of what I find are very worn due to them being field finds.

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Originally Posted by GUNNLEG
Great points guys.

I wish I had a collection anything like that poster. Super fine points. Most of what I find are very worn due to them being field finds.

Swamp Wolf, we gotta get you ‘unplugged’ grin

Lol.....sometime today I will post pics of the REAL thing...


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Took pics of a few of my cases....
Note beads made from seashells in upper right corner...found in a wash on a hillside. A buddy there with me picked up more than a dozen of those shell beads.
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Double-fluted Clovis in center of this case. Made from Flint River chert. Found broken in half in road fill near a small creek. Documented by University of Georgia archeologist as Clovis find here in this area.
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River finds (mostly with mask & snorkel, but some scuba in deeper holes)...including the Suwannee type on the poster (center right) and the 1st stage Dalton (center left). Also a fish vertebrae with hole drilled to use as jewelry.
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Most recent finds, including this slate gorget (found in road fill). Slate does not occur this far south...traded?
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Have lots more, many broken/damaged...but these are the main highlights of what my family and I have found over the years. We have spent many hours, as a family, looking. Some great memories and family bonding!!! We would pack a lunch and go...all day.


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