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|  Re:  Told my wife I may need to see a physiologist
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I'm not self employed 
 Millions of full time wage earners don't get paid time off and holidays
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|  Re:  Told my wife I may need to see a physiologist
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That does help explain to me some of your situation. If you are not going home and are paying for other housing you may as well work. You and your family need to decide when other options may be better for all of you.The newer technology won't replace atcually being together but is much superior to what was available 40-50 years ago. The longest I was away from my wife and daughter was the 10 months I was in Nam. Very limited calling options, so letters were the main communication. It takes a while to get re-acclimated and back into being home. At least it was for me. Funny that much of what gets missed when the family is young and growing becomes topics of discussion as time passes and we are older. Good to have those conversations even if they come later.
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  I don't pay for housing.  I have my inlaws renting my house down there  and part of the deal was I keep my bed room there.  That said it's 40 miles from the plant. So I stay at mom's  condo it's 12 miles from work and I get to spend an hour or two with mom   every day   and tale her out to eat even when I work 16.  Big bonus  especially  since she had cancer.  I have my own room and full bathroom  at moms. |  |  |  
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|  Re:  Told my wife I may need to see a physiologist
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You give out WAY to much info!!.Been given alot of advice. Figger it out.
 
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|  Re:  Told my wife I may need to see a physiologist
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I'm not self employed 
 Millions of full time wage earners don't get paid time off and holidays
What do you do, I'd I may ask?Heavy equipment operator by trade, union even 
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|  Re:  Told my wife I may need to see a physiologist
[Re: Steven 49er]
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Heavy equipment operator by trade, union evenhonestly, I never heard of a union job that DIDN'T include vacation time and holidays. even Correction Officers, etc. get time off... which union do you belong to? just curious....
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|  Re:  Told my wife I may need to see a physiologist
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Heavy equipment operator by trade, union evenhonestly, I never heard of a union job that DIDN'T include vacation time and holidays. even Correction Officers, etc. get time off... which union do you belong to? just curious....Well considering he said he’s a heavy equipment operator and his name ends in 49er, I’m gonna bet he belongs to the IUOE 49ers union.  Happy trapping!  ScottW 
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|  Re:  Told my wife I may need to see a physiologist
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I don't know any union tradesmen that get paid vacation from the employer that I work with
 Laborers, operators, weldors, plumbers iron workers
 
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|  Re:  Told my wife I may need to see a physiologist
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Heavy equipment operator by trade, union evenhonestly, I never heard of a union job that DIDN'T include vacation time and holidays. even Correction Officers, etc. get time off... which union do you belong to? just curious....Correction workers are government employees of course are going to get paid time off and holidays.  In the pipeline industry I've worked in several states and friends of mine have worked in many others. I don't know the one that got paid vacation or holidays per the contract. 
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|  Re:  Told my wife I may need to see a physiologist
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I don't know any union tradesmen that get paid vacation from the employer that I work with
 Laborers, operators, weldors, plumbers iron workers
"from the employer that I work with"...do you get paid vacation (or PTO) from the union?
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Heavy equipment operator by trade, union evenhonestly, I never heard of a union job that DIDN'T include vacation time and holidays. even Correction Officers, etc. get time off... which union do you belong to? just curious....  There is a big difference between  union tradesman vs  other union workers like factory workers or ups ot the post office.               In a trade union you work out of the hall and May work for several different  companies In a year.  Heck I think I had 15 or 16 w2s one year.     Some may be a one day  or just a few day job.   I hated Hollidays when I Iron worked. Normally  we would get the days off because company's  didn't  want to pay the double time.   But they were not paid days off so they were short check weeks.   The companys  call the hall and ask for  however  many men that need and the skill set.  The hall sends them out.  When the job is done they hand you your last check and you go back to the hall and get sent out on the next job..   It's a lot different  than working for the same company  and having union   like in the factory  I have now.     Ironworking they would send us our vacation check out in October.   But it was not paid vacation  it was the $60 a week that was taken out of our check and put in a vacation  fund.. so self funded paid vacation.   It was good for guys that couldn't  Handel  their money and most spent it on x Mas.   Now with the union In my factory  we  get  I think 9 paid holidays paid for 8 hrs a day  But if we are secluded  we  get double time and a half for  hours worked and if we get called in its tripple time. 
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|  Re:  Told my wife I may need to see a physiologist
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You give out WAY to much info!!.Been given alot of advice. Figger it out.
 
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|  Re:  Told my wife I may need to see a physiologist
[Re: Providence Farm]
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Ironworking that would send us our vacation check out in October.   But it was not paid vacation  it was the $60 a week that was taken out of our check and put in a vacation  fund.. so self funded paid vacation.   It was good for guys that couldn't  habmndek their money and most spent it on x Mas.not to be argumentative, but that's just semantics...it's a paid vacation.  you were on vacation, and you were still paid. no different than any company-based paid time off. (it costs the company x dollars/hour to employ anyone.  hourly wage is one component of that cost.  health benefits are another.  same as paid time off...all figured into the "cost to employ")
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|  Re:  Told my wife I may need to see a physiologist
[Re: Providence Farm]
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Yotetrap30  it's 57 not 59 July 1st 2036 last day at work will be 3rd week of May I will have 5 weeks of vacation
 And take it the 5 weeks before I officially  retire.  And I will put it this way.  I make in a year what it would take  me 2 if not for the ot.  I don't need 1/3rd of my income to live on soon I will only need 1/4  So I'm able to pay things off reducing the amount of cash I need even further.   Sure I could not work the ot and In 5 years be in the same spot I was 2 years ago or in the next year  only have utilities  taxes and insurance.   That means I will need even less money.    So I can still invest at a high rate and work less.    Maybe invest in solar and reduce bills further.   Yep there is about 3 to 5 years of missing out.  Few are willing to trap their spending, drive old vehicles, and put in the hours with a goal in mind.     Many will be jealous  and are now  of the options I have and will have.   But they are not willing to drive a 27 year old vehicle, watch their spending  or put in the hours.  Yes I'm proud that I am on that will.    I'm also well aware of the cost, and that's what's getting  to me.   Heck I drove home this morning  and am going back to work tonight   5 hrs of driving
 because  my wife need some help with the kids. She didn't  ask me to infact  told me not to but I did because  I needed to be home and take care of it.   So 5 hrs of driving  for 6 hrs home then 5 2.5 hrs back home at 3am in the morning.  Only working 8 hrs tonight  since in maxed out on hours.
 
 Point is  the crazy ot plan is to be temporarily  yet I  do wonder  if I will have problems  cutting back to only working  a few of my days off month.    With my schedule  I only have to work 14 days out of 28 and I have 4 weeks vacation. So technically  I only have to work about 5  months a year and get 7 days in a roll off each month, 2 3 days off and one one  day off.    Or I can double  that  amount of  money  and get the big ticket things done and have the ability  to quit the job any time I want in a and take a lower paying  job closer to home   and live comfortably  on the lower income in a few years.   Or just quit working  my days off just 16s when in at work  and keep adding to my pension  still make double the pay of jobs around here  and live comfortably.   But I will still be away but only  3 or 4 days at a time.
 It's nice to have a lot of options  not many do.   Scaling  back will be tough for me but will be necessary.   May not even hit it as hard as I was planning  the next few months.  I realized  a few weeks back it's not normal  for  your response to someone  saying  your working to much to be "well I only worked 80 hrs this week" and be serious  since  that's less than 96 and you took a day or two off and  think 80 hrs is cutting back.  Going by people's  reactions  I figured  out thats not a normal  mind set.
 
 Basically  all that rambling  just to say I started  out with the plan 2 December's  ago to  start to work a  day or 2 off a month or week and  16 every day it was offered  when I was there to get things done.  Then  I some how  only take 6 days or so off a month  and  it's got out of control.  The closer I get  the worse I become.   I realize  it's a behavior  pattern  that needs correction. I Gere up poor started out poor and never want to go back.
 
 
 
Ok providence no one says you’re not hard worker but even with Ky math this makes no sense. If you only need 1/3 of your income live but why not just pay off everything instead of dumping money here there in some investments. Yes you might get a return if you live long enough but the interest on the debt is NOW  BUT EHAT DO I KNOW? Been debt free for 7 years and have everything we want |  |  |  
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|  Re:  Told my wife I may need to see a physiologist
[Re: white marlin]
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I don't know any union tradesmen that get paid vacation from the employer that I work with
 Laborers, operators, weldors, plumbers iron workers
"from the employer that I work with"...do you get paid vacation (or PTO) from the union?No 
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|  Re:  Told my wife I may need to see a physiologist
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This has been an interesting read.
 I don't know any self-made, successful people that work "just enough."  They work their (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) off.
 
 These are successful professional types, tradesmen, blue collar oilfield friends, farmers, etc.  Again, you have to balance family and well being.
 
 It's like anything else--a man has freewill.  If he wants to be financially successful, he generally has to earn it.  Nobody gives it to him--unless the punk inherits it or just gets lucky.
 
 If a man just wants to get by, that is his choice--just stay off the dole and don't resent others for achieving more--both are serious problems in this country on the right and left.
 
 Last thing, there is value in teaching your kids to work hard by example while also teaching them the balance of family and well being.
Describe successful? How much is enough? I’d it worth it if you die at 55? You didn’t ask but I’ll give my opinion. Retire as soon as you can and have an income as much or more then when you worked. How did  you survive while working if it’s not enough? My wife taught 29 years high school math. In at 7 hone by 5. One day she said I’m done. Went to retirement department and is bringing hone 500 per month more than paycheck. 3 months later local university was begging her to teach. 2 days per week 1.75 hrs per day. PLUS hundreds of online students. 13 years of that   Point is   Retire the day you can. You be surprised the opportunity you can find if not spending every waking moment at a job  My dad was an autoworker here in local factory. Liscense electrician wired houses at night and on weekends. Massive heart attack at 38. Spent eleven days in ICU. About went nuts because like I said you slow down or your body will! |  |  |  
 
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