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Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: Yes sir] #8174009
07/15/24 05:55 PM
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And what's me posting a picture gonna do? What did he do to the others that did it..


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Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: lady123] #8174011
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Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8174012
07/15/24 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
That 20 year old shooter did not shoot 5 to 6 rounds in 1.4 seconds.

Possible?....maybe. With a semi-auto AR? Hmmm.

Accurately? Not by that guy. Firearms instructor or gun pro....maybe. That guy was neither....and on a hot metal roof in shorts.

1.4 seconds.....put both your hands in your pockets. Pull them out as quickly as you can and clap 5 or 6 times as fast as you can....can't be done in 1.4 seconds.

Shooter's finger and trigger won't reset near quick enough.




With practice and proper trigger control it absolutely is possible. Hands in pocket and clapping is not the same as rapid fire shooting. Apples and oranges.
Here's Jerry Miculek doing 27 rounds from holster in 4.5 seconds. (The first shot at about 1.02 seconds - wouldn't count in the first shot to last shot time of a prone rifle shooter - so 27 rounds in 3.5 seconds - all on target).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dOVZ5TRCUw

Last edited by Dan Barnhurst; 07/15/24 06:01 PM. Reason: mistake on time corrected.

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Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8174013
07/15/24 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by NorthernTrapperO
And what's me posting a picture gonna do? What did he do to the others that did it..

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Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: lady123] #8174014
07/15/24 05:58 PM
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Yep once he starts.....
Don't help he's one of the few on here who has forum immunity

Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: lady123] #8174024
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Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: lady123] #8174027
07/15/24 06:11 PM
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If that's true something bad is going on

Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: Dan Barnhurst] #8174029
07/15/24 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan Barnhurst
Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
That 20 year old shooter did not shoot 5 to 6 rounds in 1.4 seconds.

Possible?....maybe. With a semi-auto AR? Hmmm.

Accurately? Not by that guy. Firearms instructor or gun pro....maybe. That guy was neither....and on a hot metal roof in shorts.

1.4 seconds.....put both your hands in your pockets. Pull them out as quickly as you can and clap 5 or 6 times as fast as you can....can't be done in 1.4 seconds.

Shooter's finger and trigger won't reset near quick enough.




With practice and proper trigger control it absolutely is possible. Hands in pocket and clapping is not the same as rapid fire shooting. Apples and oranges.
Here's Jerry Miculek doing 27 rounds from holster in 4.5 seconds. (The first shot at about 1.02 seconds - wouldn't count in the first shot to last shot time of a prone rifle shooter - so 27 rounds in 3.5 seconds - all on target).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dOVZ5TRCUw

Dan,
That shooter was not a Jerry Miculek.

My "hands in pocket" start is just to simulate the time to get on target, try to hold steady on target, and then fire 5 to 6 shots. He didn't do that in 1.4 seconds.

You may can get in under 1.4 seconds with your Glock or modified AR on the range when your standing at ready and the buzzer goes off....that shooter...NOT.

Last edited by Swamp Wolf; 07/15/24 06:12 PM. Reason: Spelling error

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Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: lady123] #8174030
07/15/24 06:12 PM
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Crazy amount of delay ......they should have pulled Trump immediately


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Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: lady123] #8174042
07/15/24 06:26 PM
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Anyone watched the ,Youtube ( Times of Indias ) video of the secret service agent coming in croutched down. watch it it dos seem odd. sorry i dont know how to do the links.

Last edited by logger coffey; 07/15/24 06:26 PM.
Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: wetdog] #8174046
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Originally Posted by wetdog
Originally Posted by jbyrd63
I googled rate of fire for an AR . Several sources say 350-400 Rounds per minute. So even with Ky math that 5.8 -6.6 rounds that can be fired in a second. Just saying . He had 1.4 seconds so I bet it can be done. Guy I'm talking to is retired marine colonel . I bet he or someone in his circle slow mo'ed the video and timed it.

That's if it's made full auto
Not on semi, human fingers don't move that fast crazy


No that’s semi auto
fully auto is 650 as fast as 1250 depending on manufacturing. Geez just Google it like I did.
Also the test is to tap your finger on a table NOT clap your hands.

Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: hippie] #8174048
07/15/24 06:32 PM
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Wow!!!

If that shooter was on the roof for 30 minutes there's NO WAY Secret Service didn't see him! They had to know he was there.


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Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: lady123] #8174051
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Swamp you have no ideal what or how that shooter could fire. I bet my 12 year old granddaughter can pull a trigger 3/5 times in a second. Just telling my conversation with a gentleman that would know details you can only guess about. Just wait until the report comes out. Best thing to fon

Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: lady123] #8174055
07/15/24 06:46 PM
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Swamp Wolf I don't know the skill level of that 20 year old. I know prone with a rifle is also so much easier to shoot quickly with accuracy than with a handgun. I know bare elbows on that metal roof, in that heat, would affect my accuracy. I'm thinking being distracted and rushed by the officer appearing at the edge of the roof probably saved President Trump's life. That 20 year old under those circumstances came as close as humanly possible to killing Trump without getting it done. I believe all the people praying for Trump had something to do with the outcome of that assassination attempt.


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Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: lady123] #8174060
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1 second is the time it take you to snap your fingers. I ain't buying he shot 5 or 6 times before I could snap my fingers twice....

Aerial view of the weapon.....body is blurred out.

https://youtu.be/JT8Rf46cIfI?si=_7vpBAOt3d3YnfkG

Last edited by Swamp Wolf; 07/15/24 06:54 PM.

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Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: lady123] #8174061
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Rob Schmidt on newsmax just said the police knew the shooter was on the roof 30 minutes before the shooting happened.

They also let the shooter shoot first before the snipers shot back killing him.

Also while the shooter was on the roof the police was training inside the building at the same time.

Let all that sink in if you can.


Anyone that owns a gun and votes democrat deserves to have there gun taken, cause they truly are too stupid to own a gun.
Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: lady123] #8174062
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I'm also hoping the horrible failure of the security detail was due to gross negligence and or incompetence, rather than permitting the assassin an opportunity.


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Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: lady123] #8174063
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I think the kid made a good shot. The fact Trump turned his head as the shot broke is what saved him.

Last edited by Yes sir; 07/15/24 07:01 PM.
Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8174066
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
1 second is the time it take you to snap your fingers. I ain't buying he shot 5 or 6 times before I could snap my fingers twice....

Aerial view of the weapon.....body is blurred out.

https://youtu.be/JT8Rf46cIfI?si=_7vpBAOt3d3YnfkG


your not 20 . your arthur itis probly slowing you down lol lol

Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: lady123] #8174068
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Absolutely no way a 20 year old kid that’s good with computers, doesn’t have any social media footprint,,,,as being reported now


Along with the security lapse,,,,,

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