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Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: Chancey] #8175350
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Exactly Chancey. She lied about why there were no SS agents on the same roof the shooter used. And she didn't bother to make up a plausible lie because she didn't have to.

She and folks like her in positions of power know that nothing is going to happen to them. They know they can blatantly lie. They know that no one with even moderate intelligence will believe them. They know there will be zero repercussions for their lies. They don't care. They don't have to. They have nothing to worry about.


Eh...wot?

Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: lady123] #8175352
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Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: Lugnut] #8175396
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Lots of talk about her, but who really was making decisions on the grounds? Probably she isn't micro managing

Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: wr otis] #8175426
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Originally Posted by wr otis
Lots of talk about her, but who really was making decisions on the grounds? Probably she isn't micro managing


Maybe not, but I haven't seen any quotes about her goals being to make America safer or make sure the right ppl get put in place to make those on the ground calls. Instead, she seems to be all about making sure that women and other minorities have a share of jobs at the SS. I decline to give her any cover at all and beleieve she deserves a whole lot worse than just harsh words on the news stations or social media.


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Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: wr otis] #8175428
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Originally Posted by wr otis
Lots of talk about her, but who really was making decisions on the grounds? Probably she isn't micro managing


She is quoted as saying the buck stops with her. So regard less of who made the decision for whatever reasons, she is ultimately responsible.

Let her fry.

Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: lady123] #8175433
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I know little of her actual work product except that at least one of Trumps detail looked like she could not run accross a small room without a snack break and NONE of them performed like a team who had drilled for this type of scenario until it was deeply ingrained in their reactions. BTW poor planning and a lack of accountability from the top to the bottom defaults that you better git good at reacting to the unexpected. Look at the performance of the SS agents when an attempt was made on Ronald Reagan. You'd have needed a belt fed chunk of mighty big ordinance to get another grain of lead close to that man. Times have changed and not for the better.


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Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: lady123] #8175437
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Love the “buck stops here” …” I take full responsibility “…. And no consequences! No loss of job, keep all benefits. Keep going to all the parties, not ostracized just continue like nothing happened…

Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: Miley] #8175439
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Originally Posted by Miley
Love the “buck stops here” …” I take full responsibility “…. And no consequences! No loss of job, keep all benefits. Keep going to all the parties, not ostracized just continue like nothing happened…


Reminds me of J Reno after women and children were burned out of a little place outside of Waco which is right up the road from me now. Maybe the so called preacher there was the anti Christ or a clone of Hitler and deserves what he got, but those women and kids deserved a trial by jury and a sentencing hearing b4 they we put to death. Same for Randy Weaver's family and Fincton Lavoy... Remember come November


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Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: lady123] #8175451
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you folks actually think they provide trump with the best/competent agents? The same government that wants him behind bars....wakeup.


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Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: Chancey] #8175452
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Originally Posted by Chancey
The government and the agencies are lying to you. It really is that simple.


x2 . . really is that simple

Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: Miley] #8175453
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Originally Posted by Miley
Love the “buck stops here” …” I take full responsibility “…. And no consequences! No loss of job, keep all benefits. Keep going to all the parties, not ostracized just continue like nothing happened…



Remember when the guy with a knife got over the White House fence?

That Director resigned over it...
Well, among other security lapses.

Maybe she had a little honor?
Personal responsibility?
Sense of duty?

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Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: lady123] #8175457
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She got the job, no law enforcement background at all because she's Jill's friend.
Same reason she's keeping her job.

Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: lady123] #8175487
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She's got 27 or 29 years in secret service.

I'm not saying this wasn't a botch job, but she's probably not making on the ground personnel decisions either.

When you think about what happened, you wouldn't think a building that had cops inside of it staging or whatever they were doing. Would have a guy climb up the side of it and start shooting. I don't know how many cops were in the building, but it just seems like a crazy turn of events that it actually transpired. They were looking for that specific guy earlier, how does he wind up right in the middle like he did.

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Originally Posted by wr otis
She's got 27 or 29 years in secret service.

I'm not saying this wasn't a botch job, but she's probably not making on the ground personnel decisions either.

When you think about what happened, you wouldn't think a building that had cops inside of it staging or whatever they were doing. Would have a guy climb up the side of it and start shooting. I don't know how many cops were in the building, but it just seems like a crazy turn of events that it actually transpired. They were looking for that specific guy earlier, how does he wind up right in the middle like he did.

My mistake Otis, thanks for the info.

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Originally Posted by wr otis
She's got 27 or 29 years in secret service.

I'm not saying this wasn't a botch job, but she's probably not making on the ground personnel decisions either.

When you think about what happened, you wouldn't think a building that had cops inside of it staging or whatever they were doing. Would have a guy climb up the side of it and start shooting. I don't know how many cops were in the building, but it just seems like a crazy turn of events that it actually transpired. They were looking for that specific guy earlier, how does he wind up right in the middle like he did.



And he wasn't a Navy Seal

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Just a video gamer.....


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Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: lady123] #8175592
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The shooter's own parents called the cops hours before the rally to report him missing. None of this adds up.


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Originally Posted by corky
The shooter's own parents called the cops hours before the rally to report him missing. None of this adds up.


It all adds up, just not to something people want to believe.

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Originally Posted by Nessmuck
Originally Posted by wr otis
She's got 27 or 29 years in secret service.

I'm not saying this wasn't a botch job, but she's probably not making on the ground personnel decisions either.

When you think about what happened, you wouldn't think a building that had cops inside of it staging or whatever they were doing. Would have a guy climb up the side of it and start shooting. I don't know how many cops were in the building, but it just seems like a crazy turn of events that it actually transpired. They were looking for that specific guy earlier, how does he wind up right in the middle like he did.



And he wasn't a Navy Seal

Ranger

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Marine

Army

No special opts training.....

Just a video gamer.....

Video gaming will probably be the only test for those qualificationst the way things are going.....

Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: Marty] #8175641
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Originally Posted by Marty
you folks actually think they provide trump with the best/competent agents? The same government that wants him behind bars....wakeup.

I agree^^^

Did yall notice that DT had a different group of all men SS on the 1st night of the RNC? That group of dudes looked way more serious about their job than the rally SS crew.


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Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: lady123] #8175684
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I dont watch fox but interesting if true. The plot thickens….

Parents called the cops before shooting

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