I hope you guys are passing these valuable self rights of life information on to your children.
Over 30 years of picking up pieces of other folks mistakes. I see so much wisdom in this post I wish I had known. As a child I really wanted to be a grocery checker. Having failed 9 grade algebra and lacking the ability to make correct change. I can't count past my 9 3/4 fingers.. They decided to replace me with a self checkout. Devastated I was floundering no direction in life. Someone said hey we know you drank off the garden hose. Seen you riding your bicycle and motorcycle around without a helmet. Seen you plenty of times out on river with out a pfd. Your just plain wreckless. You was caught as child playing with matches and arrested for underage drink at age 13..
We got the perfect job for you.
You can come pick these dead kids off the road for us.. Just remember that you probably going to be on camera. So please don't up set their parents.. By just pick them up with a shovel toss them in the ditch. Like you do the raccoons with no fur value.
My big regret in life.. I unknowingly past this same ability to my son.
I didn't know I damaged him as bad as I'm.


Mac

"Never Forget Which Way Is Up!"

Agreed 100%

I've seen where people don't have a license and don't get a ticket. We have the right to travel. It's a process and some b.s. but some get away with it.

You guys pee and moan about the "fishing" expeditions. Providence you stated yourself it would be different if he got a drunk driver You know how many drug bust and drunk drivers have been removed from the road due to "FISHING" pull overs? Not dimming headlights, busted tail light, NO SEAT BELT . I'm all for them. . ONE of the Biggest drug bust I have ever heard of around hear was because at 2 am a guy didn't signal when he changed lanes. 90 plus lbs of pot. 10 kilos coke, hundreds of pills, plus meth ,cash....


Providence
Why stop at wearing a seatbelt? Drive on the left side of the road. Gov mandates you drive on the right! Heck drive 20 mph over speed limit. That's another money grabbing mandate !!
You know the law
you broke it
pay the ticket.
But please stop trashing a LEO for doing his job.

Not often I totally love me an uncle Jbyrd post!!

And I vote Macthediver for president!! He always talks with such common sense it’s ridiculous! :-)

Happy trapping! ScottW

The experience could have been a bunch different.

If you were so tired that you fell asleep at the laundry, you could also have been considered "impaired" , at least in the states I am familiar with. Consider yourself lucky.. I know you ain't my first choice for who I share the road with.

Law enforcement fishing trips have also led to a whole lot of stolen money through civil asset forfeiture.

I don’t care who wears what, nor do I think it should be mandated. But if you have any respect or love for your life and family and don’t wear one, then you actually don’t have any respect or love for your family or your life. See, mine depends on me and if I can prevent a possible loss of my life or severe injury, then I feel I owe it to them. Sorta the same way I wear a safety harness while climbing, really don’t want my sons or wife finding me paralyzed or dead at the bottom of a tree.

I will tell you with 100% certainty that seatbelts do save lives because I’m still here. Do seat belts save every life? Nope, but I’ll take the odds of wearing one vs not.

I guess I disagree Scott.

This country has forgot that freedom really is and all these laws lead up to the nonsense we have to endure.

Next thing you guys will be wanting me to give up my Modern sporting rifles, concealed carry permit and suppressors.

Who wears underwear? Just one more thing to take off or wash, what's the benefit besides its what I alway have done since birth. I under stand at the beginning of life and at the end when you need diapers. But grown men?

Don't point out the logic to him. It's likely a wast of time. Sounds like someone open to reasonable gun control if it just saves one life and is more than happy to give up rights for the illusion of in and in the name of safety.

His reading compression skills also show. I never complained about getting the ticket or the cop. Just that it's another form of tax/income generation and method of fishing and attemp to justify violation of rights.

Even though I flat out said it was a good cop interaction and I'm glad I don't have the cops job. J still wants to read into what he thinks I typed instead of what I did type. It's typical. Just like all the others inability to read I normally wear my seat belt but had taken it off at a normally long light to get my phone out of my pocket and the light had changed and being in front of the line of guys wanting to leave work I went and left my seat belt off. That is pretty clear. But I get the preaching and assuming I never Weare my seat belt because some how I'm a rebel. Just another example of poor reading compression.

I care less about a ticket. It's the principle of just another excuse to make a stop that other wise would not be legal.

J a lot of criminals have walked on technically and process and rights violations. Guess you think we should get rid of the rights and process put in place to protect us as well? Who cares if I'd saves a few innocent people it will take many more criminals off the streets than innocents out of jail.

Yep. Sitting inside the laundry in the same high rise condo I stay in 2 hours after I was pulled over waiting for cloths to dry with the rhythmic sounds of the dryer running sure does make me a danger on the road. You would sound more intelligent if you asked for clarifying questions before opening moving your fingers.

He's an angry elf....

Chill out. It's not cool to attack everyone just because they don't want to whine with you.

You got some solid feedback on this thread. Listen to them (except those who are cheering for cops fishing).

I guess I can't argue with your reasoning. I think I just in-voluntarily moved one of my fingers

so you did not have a seat belt on while driving and fiddling with your phone/car bluetooth to connect? and it's the cops fault?

LEO is doing his job.

Then you turn it into how much you pay in taxes...

Classy response and expected just like the left when they have no substance or thing of value to add.

Bc how did you make it through law school?

I get your perspective for sure Steve, this is just one where I fall in the camp of wear it. What really gets me is the folks who say “I don’t wear it because I know someone who would/might have survived by not wearing it.” Nobody can reasonably deny the statistics behind seatbelts. Happy trapping! ScottW

Secondary offense here like a license plate light you can’t be stopped for it that cuts dome on the fishing BS.

Scout leader shoulda kniwn the motto-Be Prepared

Seat belts use to be like that here. Also didn't apply to trucks tell a few years after they passed the seat belt law.

For safety and saving life's the best thing would be ban privet owned vehicles and only have mass public transport. Limit gas sale amounts and amount allowed on hand per family. Only allow license people to operate
lawn equipment and other dangerous tools . Would also be good for the green movement sounds like a real win. Thinking I should txt this idea to Kamala and friends.