Re: Thought experiment
[Re: wetdog]
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Yes sir
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I'd try to find a way to shrink the size, reach and dependence on federal government. Maybe try to influence society back towards a more moral path.....
If that can't be done probably settle for just lining my pockets with as much $ as I could to protect myself against the coming fall much as I could. Lol
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Re: Thought experiment
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Gunnleg I like ur last one. Public officials should be held to a higher standard. They all say they should until they get caught. They all say the buck stops here until the bucks headed their direction too. I’d take it further and say that some should be charged with treason. Don’t know how it would ever stick, but it would stop the foolishness related to not putting your country and her interest first.
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Re: Thought experiment
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Nationalize everything.
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Re: Thought experiment
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how does this meet the "no politics" rule????????? It's not about left or right?
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Re: Thought experiment
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how does this meet the "no politics" rule????????? It's a thought experiment Not a bashing session
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Re: Thought experiment
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Some good ideas already But think just a bit about what would be the outcome of your ideas And ask yourself, then what Every action has unintentional consequences
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Re: Thought experiment
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Some good ideas already But think just a bit about what would be the outcome of your ideas And ask yourself, then what Every action has unintentional consequences
And that's where you'll lose this group. They can't grasp the unintended consequences thing
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Re: Thought experiment
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Stop the invasion....100%
Deport illegals and anti Americans...100%
Drill ...100%
Cut foreign aid ....80%
Cut federal government bs jobs ...50%
Pardon j 6ers ... 95%
Chop welfare/disability.....50%
Cut and simplify tax code
Ban CRT....100%
Ban freakism....100%
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Re: Thought experiment
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Some good ideas already But think just a bit about what would be the outcome of your ideas And ask yourself, then what Every action has unintentional consequences
And that's where you'll lose this group. They can't grasp the unintended consequences thing Show us a negative outcome
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Re: Thought experiment
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I would get rid of the ATF and fire th e FBI head and his minions fire alot of SS AND gut the Justice dept. Cut welfare benefits 50% and put in a drug program to get benis. Put in term limits and age. 55 is the max age working for the Govt. Get rid of lobbyist Also get rid of NASA THAT A WASTE OF MONEY. .
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Re: Thought experiment
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First off choose a cabinet of the smartest people in the room on the various issues facing the country that I could trust and talk to. I would close the borders to ILLEGAL immigration. Get started figuring out how to purge the country of the ones here illegally. Get the energy sector back to work. All but eliminate the and seriously restrict the alphabet agencies. Get my vice president and cabinet at work keeping them out there so the people knew them and what they stand for to shore up support for future administrations. Go on a tour to settle the world down outside the U S. Get a handle on foreign trade. Put education back in the states. Work with both houses to shore up the constitution so the left wouldn't be able to pack the court or add states or any of the other sneaky things they do. Pass legislation that a bill in congress only funded the purpose of that legislation and eliminate the pork that gets tacked on. That's a few.
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Re: Thought experiment
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National carry permit. Our 2A rights shouldn't stop at the state line. Why have a permit at all?
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Re: Thought experiment
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I would submit that any bill introduced would have ONE subject. NO EXCEPTIONS! If you want something passed, present it in a way that is right for the people. Too many bills are passed with a bunch of BS underwritings that make them absolutely ridiculous, and two faced. I would also propose term limits, OR mandatory social security enrollment...I don't think I would get my ideas past the house, lol.
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Re: Thought experiment
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National carry permit. Our 2A rights shouldn't stop at the state line. True, we have one person running for national office that has proposed national carry,..his thoughts and suggestions have been buried by main stream media. In the era of twenty second sound bites, it is easy to bury and bypass relevant suggestions!
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Re: Thought experiment
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Yes sir
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Some good ideas already But think just a bit about what would be the outcome of your ideas And ask yourself, then what Every action has unintentional consequences
And that's where you'll lose this group. They can't grasp the unintended consequences thing Peaceful discussion then someone comes in and takes a personal shot at someone. Here it was unprovocated my anyone. Well done
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Re: Thought experiment
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Bring back 80's music, telephone booths, and pb max candy bars. I haven't had a PB Max since they were discontinued been trying to get the wife to find a copy cat recipe!
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Re: Thought experiment
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08/01/24 10:47 PM
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Yes sir
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We are seeing the increase even while we are putting more people on welfare. Welfare hasn't help any group of people through history as a whole. Sure once in awhile there's the individual with enough motivation to use it's benefits to improve their lives but there's 500 of the others for everyone one of those. Show me the numbers where more welfare has lowered crime and drug abuse
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Re: Thought experiment
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We are seeing the increase even while we are putting more people on welfare. Welfare hasn't help any group of people through history as a whole. Sure once in awhile there's the individual with enough motivation to use it's benefits to improve their lives but there's 500 of the others for everyone one of the other. I agree whole heartedly. But without jobs for those people we don't improve anything I don't won't anyone bleeding the taxpayers dime. And that's about all a dollar is worth today
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Re: Thought experiment
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Bring back 80's music, telephone booths, and pb max candy bars. Along with your previous suggestions and this, got my vote and I'll put a sign in the yard.
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Re: Thought experiment
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If we were to take 50% of people off of welfare and government handouts ( which I agree with) it would save taxpayers a large amount of money. Then what? Homeless would be worse, there would be a rise in crime. Which means we need more police More sickness from the homeless and drug addicts. A burden on the cities and the medical system. Need more DR and hospitals. In the end the taxpayers are still paying the same amount and now have a worse problem
We would have to restructure our entire system And then what? We just end up paying more taxes Alot of jobs once we start deporting illegals and anti Americans
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Re: Thought experiment
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If we were to take 50% of people off of welfare and government handouts ( which I agree with) it would save taxpayers a large amount of money. Then what? Homeless would be worse, there would be a rise in crime. Which means we need more police More sickness from the homeless and drug addicts. A burden on the cities and the medical system. Need more DR and hospitals. In the end the taxpayers are still paying the same amount and now have a worse problem
We would have to restructure our entire system And then what? We just end up paying more taxes Alot of jobs once we start deporting illegals and anti Americans Agreed. But Americans don't get deported, they are missguided but they are still American citizens If they want to renounce there citizenship, that's a different matter all together I love this country and her people
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Re: Thought experiment
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Build more prisons, bring back mental institutions ,.offer the ultimatum,.you work, contribute, wont do such? well, there is a place for you, Cant accommodate them?,..there was a sheriff in arizona that set up tent camps, worked pretty well. We have a problem shunning ourselves!
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Re: Thought experiment
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Huh?,..I thought we were thinking a thought experiment here? You were requisitioning thoughts?
I apologize, I thought I was posting to a different thread
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