More worried about the noise. My one rear has already paid the price…..lol

I am deaf too. I have looked into the noise cancelling muffs but never bought a pair. Does the one you are looking at have a removable brake? I know some do and come with a thread protector to use when the brake is off.

electronic hearing protection

one with dual mics that are directional
these work well for the price , there are also smaller ear bud type.


https://www.amazon.com/Howard-Leigh...pact+sport&qid=1722603997&sr=8-1

Posted by Shakeyjake
Originally Posted by 160user
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More worried about the noise. My one rear has already paid the price…..lol

electronic hearing protection

one with dual mics that are directional
these work well for the price , there are also smaller ear bud type.


https://www.amazon.com/Howard-Leigh...pact+sport&qid=1722603997&sr=8-1

would you trust them shoot a 300 rum with a brake??

I was on the range two days ago working with two rifles I’d changed out to add Zeiss scopes. One a Tikka stainless

and one a REM 700.
Both are equipped with factory “standard” size barrel’s diameter wise.
The only thing done as far as the barrel/ business ends was to make sure they were free. Both gave me cloverleaf’s at 100 yards, and 3 shot groups quarter size at 200.

This was a dead quiet morning, bench rested, locked down into a ballasted lead sled. Timing between shots was not intentional nor measured by intent. Maybe 30 seconds between?

These were 55grain ballistic tip federal P243H loads.

Heavier barrels do have a place however for 90% of the hunters/shooters out there I believe standard barrels outperform the trigger displacement coordinator.

Osky

Prefer a pressure point in the forearm channel over glass bedding/ free floating, on a light barrel rifle.

A thin piece of oil soaked cardboard about 1 1/2 inches long, and a couple inches back from the forearm end can work wonders.

I shoot a 308win with a brake and a shorty 10.5" 5.56 from inside a range building

if the noise is still too much put foam ear plugs under your hearing protection and turn the volume up a bit more , when we run all day indoor matches working RO around a bunch of Open class , compensated hot rodded major guns throwing fireballs it works for us.

they also make replacement gel ear cups that help with all day comfort

they are -22db hearing protection wich isn't the highest but they are a slim profile as to not bump the stock.

the electrics cuts out for the shot , louder shot doesn't make the electronic part cut out any less

There are many who have placed a small piece of rubber, similar to infer tube rubber, under the forward barrel connection of the Ruger #1 rifles and they state it did wonders. I’d imagine it changes the barrel harmonics or something, I’m not that smart. It may work for other rifles?

That being said, the #1s I’ve owned were all excellent shooters out of the factory but they are a bit heavier barrel.

Osky

I can see how that could very well change cold bore shots. What effect would it have for repeated shots and hot barrels? Would the different harmonics (dampened, "shorter" barrel) result in better groups?

have you ever seen the rubber barrel tuners ?
example
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1945158009?pid=593560
they do change how the barrel vibrates and it can change impact and or groups

some friends were playing with these on 10/22s a few years back, they were basically trying to get a stock 10/22 with some of their own work to NRL22 accuracy


they did see results from these but after not long went to free float and glass bed as well as other work to the gun it's self and got better results

the rubber things can work to some extent

I have always wondered about my deer rifle. Its a Ruger Modell 77 Mark II, in .30-06, with a thin, tapered barrel. When testing loads, that barrel gets hot quick. That makes it tough to really judge the first shot from a new load if I am switching loads when the barrel is hot. I've opted to just test one load a day. 3-5 shots per session with a couple minutes between each shot. Good thing I live close to the range.

if you lived further you might have one of these and a thermo couple taped to your barrel so that you knew when you were back into your test range

https://www.scheels.com/p/magnetospeed-riflekuhl-barrel-cooler/18123-MS-RK.html

no I don't own one

Huh, interesting. Thanks.

Anything touching the barrel changes the harmonics of a barrel sometimes it doesn't affect impact or group sizes though. I've got one of those magneto speed chrono u strap on ur barrel. I've tried it on 2 different guns for a total of 4 different loads. Pretty consistently shifts my groups about 3" high at a 100
That's a pretty big shift in my opinion at a 100

Bed the lug
Install a good recoil pad
Work the trigger over or install a good aftermarket trigger.

These are easy and economical places to start

If you reload, work up loads for each rifle
Never had a Remington 7 or 700 that I couldn't make shoot sub MOA with just a little effort.
And yes, I have a Mountain Rifle in 25-06 and 7-08. I have also owned several other mountain rifles in various calibers.

Here's some pressure point bedding info from Craig Boddington's book "Make it Accurate".

Craig has killed more than the plague.

the Finns on the M27 and M28 Mosin Nagant Finnish rebuilds had the full length stock but free floated it inside the handguard and where it contacted the barrel near the front sight had an aluminum shim loop to keep the barrel and wood separate that way the upper stock and lower stock stayed aligned but didn't rub /press on the barrel

that , better sights and a truing of the bolt face , better barrels led to a much better Mosin

How many rounds have you put through those barrels since you have last cleaned the copper fouling out of them, with a true copper solvent? Not just a bore brush and "gun cleaning solvent"?

I had a 308 once that was shooting groups bigger than a pipe plate at one hundred yards. A guy at the range asked me when the last time was I had cleaned the copper out of the barrel, I had never heard of such a thing.

I got some Barnes copper remover and went through the procedure that was described, I
couldn't believe the results, my groups tightened up to just like new.

End of the day, you get 2 consecutive shots, maybe 3 and then the heat plays with the barrel and groups open up when using a featherweight. I wouldn't use one for bench shooting. You'll be disappointed. For hunting, they are nice.

I have had 22lr guns , that started shooting a pattern that hadn't before , bunch of scrubbing with a brass brush brought them back to where they had been.
bought a 22 that had a lot of lead in the barrel , didn't shoot well , cleaned it good and tried it again and it settled right into nice groups