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High or Low Ground. #8188469
08/04/24 09:11 AM
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I been trying to see if the archives have anything but I couldn't find anything.


So when I'm trapping a fox or coyote, would I set a trap like on a high point un a field or in the lowest part.

Thanks.







Paul said I been doing good so now I can do 2 post and 5 replies.

Last edited by NorthernTrapperO; 08/04/24 09:11 AM.

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Re: High or Low Ground. [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8188472
08/04/24 09:15 AM
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I'm interested too....for some other great info, check out CoonCreekOutdoors on youtube. The guy is really good.

Re: High or Low Ground. [Re: WI Outdoors] #8188474
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Originally Posted by WI Outdoors
I'm interested too....for some other great info, check out CoonCreekOutdoors on youtube. The guy is really good.

Ok yah I probably watched every single one of his videos! He's a great guy that knows what he's talking about.


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Re: High or Low Ground. [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8188483
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I like the high ground .But I always read the sign when making a set .The animal will tell you where to catch him.Animals talk with there feet it will be up to you to interpret what it is saying.You can learn that by scouting there home .Hang in there young man .

Re: High or Low Ground. [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8188486
08/04/24 09:24 AM
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Both. Low wiill overall probably catch more. Just depends on what's there.

Re: High or Low Ground. [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8188487
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Set on sign. Wherever it is. That being said I like high points better. Around here low points are water collectors and my sets would be swamped or frozen in a lot of the season


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Re: High or Low Ground. [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8188488
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Like slipknot said, setting on sign is the best option. Otherwise look for potential travel paths. The end of fence lines or overgrown ditch lines going into an open field are good options.

Re: High or Low Ground. [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8188489
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I always set the high point and choke points in the travel ways. Scouting will identify the latter.


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Re: High or Low Ground. [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8188493
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Look for ground hog holes in the field and set up wind of them. The farther away from the woods the better, less non targets that way
And I always set the high point of the farms and if a draw or two goes from the woods towards the high point all the better

Re: High or Low Ground. [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8188499
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lots of great advice there i find i probably atch more in my low area sets but if its been raining or freezing conditions then you hav a whole new mess too deal with from muddy animals too flooded or frozen traps

Re: High or Low Ground. [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8188518
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I’d probably set wherever the sign is…

Re: High or Low Ground. [Re: Wanna Be] #8188532
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Originally Posted by Wanna Be
I’d probably set wherever the sign is…

This^^^^

It's not rocket science. Set within inches of your target critters sign, ie tracks, scat, etc.


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Re: High or Low Ground. [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8188537
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Originally Posted by NorthernTrapperO

Paul said I been doing good so now I can do 2 post and 5 replies.
Cool. I guess Hal ain't so tolerant.


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Re: High or Low Ground. [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8188545
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If you ignore the high ground, or the low ground, you’re potentially ignoring half the critters.




If you get real winter, the high ground will be easier to maintain though.

Re: High or Low Ground. [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8188548
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When you are looking at high points such as a ridge, try to scout areas where a valley comes up to the high point. Animals don't like to travel in the wide open, they will travel between two hills in a valley to go up to a higher point.

Re: High or Low Ground. [Re: Boone Liane] #8188556
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Originally Posted by Boone Liane
If you ignore the high ground, or the low ground, you’re potentially ignoring half the critters.




If you get real winter, the high ground will be easier to maintain though.

And pay attention to where it blows bare and where it drifts if you a trapping out in the open like a field. I know this is difficult if you are going in cold to new ground before it snows, but you'll remember after the first year if you set in the wrong place. I've dug holes deeper than I am tall to retrieve traps out of snow drifts more than once. (sometimes I'm a slow learner)

Re: High or Low Ground. [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8188576
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Some good points made already with #1 being set on sign and #2 read the terrain for the structure that funnels travel routes.

Now that said my personal observations are that coyotes relate more towards higher ground in their coming and going while fox seem more likely to run the bottoms and lower grounds.

But fox is two totally different critters. Reds are a creature of open fields, grasslands, savanas while greys are a creature of the brushy thickets.

JMO, but coyotes use high ground as observation points whether that be for listening for territorial howling or catching wind currents for scent detection. These areas may or may not be high percent set locations but routes to and from are worth looking at.

Fox being lower on the pecking order seem to avoid going where the coyotes go and tend to be found lower down.

JMO, but I'm probably full of crap though.

Of course your terrain may be flat as a pool table or pretty much vertical so all you can do is get out there and see for yourself.


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Re: High or Low Ground. [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8188594
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Ok thanks guys, the setting on sign is the best advice. I think of sign as a key, if you don't have the key you can't open the door. If you don't set on sign, you can't catch a critter.

I have found very good sign recently, it's beside a corn field on a atv trail beside brush. Those coyote footprints look like a wolf!

My pap used to trap and he said if he would set couple hundred feet from a dirt mound or whatever, "the fox would go on top of that hill just to smell the lure, I caught lots of fox from putting a trap on them hills."

He used drags in those scenarios if you were wondering.


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Re: High or Low Ground. [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8188657
08/04/24 01:17 PM
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My very first red fox was caught the way your father described. I was about your age and couldn't catch a fox to save my life. I had Hawbaker's old Trapping North American Furbearers book and in it he described a set that I believe he called a knoll set. There was an area on a piece of land I trapped where the farmer dropped dead cattle. I called it the cow cemetery, lol. There were fox and coyote tracks all over in that area, and I made a couple sets there.. a dirt hole and a flat set I think, but after two weeks had caught nothing.

One day I noticed a small mound in the woods about 50 feet away from where my sets and the majority of the cow bones were (There were no freshly dead cows there at the time, but that didn't stop every critter around from visiting, as tracks in a previous snow had shown). The mound was maybe 3' in diameter and a foot high. In the dead center of it, I bedded a trap. I used no bait or lure of any kind (as the book said not to). The next day.... nothing. LOL

But it wasn't many days... maybe 2 or 3 days of empty traps when one morning (that to this day remains one of the happiest days of my life) I rounded the corner and came face to face with a beautiful red fox caught in the trap set on the mound. My hands were shaking so badly I had a hard time shooting it! But I did, and when I came home carrying that red fox over my shoulder I know I was the proudest kid in all of New York state that morning.

As a side note: The single best thing you can do to make yourself a better trapper, is to follow a set of fox or coyote (or whatever your target critter is) tracks in the snow this winter. On a day you have no school, after milking, let your folks know your plans, have your mom pack you a sandwich and a thermos of coffee or hot chocolate, and set out. The first set of tracks you come to... follow them. They will show you exactly where fox (or whatever) travel, and what they do. I don't mean follow them across one field...I mean actually follow them... for miles. Learn where and what the fox eats, where he sleeps, if anything startles him. Be quiet, and you may even be able to sneak up on him, although I think at your age you can't carry a gun alone in your state. Even still, it would be a cool experience.


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Re: High or Low Ground. [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8188669
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