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Home schooling??? #8214388
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I know that home schooling is a good option for some families and that there are choices out there for quality programs.

My point is - isn’t home schooling also an option for those that want to slack off and not give their kids a “book learning “education?

I know you guys dislike government control of any sort but with home schooling, who is to say the children are learning “reading, righting and rithmatic”?

I can see this thread going down hill very fast, so let’s try to keep it civil.


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Re: Home schooling??? [Re: wissmiss] #8214391
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it can be good or bad.

Depends on a lot of attitudes.

Personally, don't respect one type of education over another.


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Re: Home schooling??? [Re: wissmiss] #8214392
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If you want to slack off, just send them to public education? You certainly can do a poor job homeschooling, but it will still be more work than shipping them off to school. confused


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Yup..
This is going to crash and burn

But if 4% of the population does it...it can't be that bad.....


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Re: Home schooling??? [Re: wissmiss] #8214395
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We homeschool (and I'd like to think we do a good job of it), but we see it used as a way for lazy parents to be lazy, too. A kid down the street from us doesn't like to go to school. He's already skipped enough school to have a report filed with the county attorney and has been to court. The mother's solution is to file to homeschool him. This kid's dad is a mean, uninvolved alcoholic, mom works all day and is too exhausted to provide much discipline. I highly doubt that this kid is going to get any sort of education.

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Every home schooler I have ment far exceded the average public school student in intelligence.The public education system in our country is a disgrace.

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Originally Posted by wissmiss
I know that home schooling is a good option for some families and that there are choices out there for quality programs.

My point is - isn’t home schooling also an option for those that want to slack off and not give their kids a “book learning “education?

I know you guys dislike government control of any sort but with home schooling, who is to say the children are learning “reading, righting and ARITHMETIC”?

I can see this thread going down hill very fast, so let’s try to keep it civil.



fixed it for you.

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Originally Posted by WI Outdoors
Originally Posted by wissmiss
I know that home schooling is a good option for some families and that there are choices out there for quality programs.

My point is - isn’t home schooling also an option for those that want to slack off and not give their kids a “book learning “education?

I know you guys dislike government control of any sort but with home schooling, who is to say the children are learning “reading, WRITING and ARITHMETIC”?

I can see this thread going down hill very fast, so let’s try to keep it civil.



fixed it for you.

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I thought it was called the “3 Rs”? Reading. Righting. Rithmatic.


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I don't know how long you could get away with not schooling them? If I remember right, we had yearly mandatory testing and quarterly sending in of samples of work.


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My baby brother was homeschooled up to 10th or 11th grade and went to a private highschool with his friends. Upon testing, they wanted to move him up a grade. He refused because the whole reason for going to an actual school was to be with his friends. He graduated with a 4.0 but still wasn’t valedictorian.
He went to college and got a degree in Business Management with a 3.98GPA.
He started with a company out of college under their management program where you start at minimum wage at the lowest position and work your way up every six months. He is now some sort of manager making high six figures. I won’t name the title or company but they are all over the US.
His first actual management job had him taking over a gentleman that retired. He came in unknown and learned the job and the people. Bonus’s were given to the manager to do with as he saw fit. Apparently the previous manager gave bare minimum except to two salesmen he was buddies with and he kept the rest. My brother keeps explicit notes and track of everyone’s production.
He started handing out bonuses at the warehouse position where the one guy makes minimum wage and works in the heat and cold. He got a $30K bonus check and almost had a heart attack when he opened it. Everyone got minimum six months salary except the 2 salesmen. They each got less than $20 and told if they didn’t have new clients and sales within the next 3 months they would be terminated. From that position to where he is now he’s always had people requesting to work for him and he’s always had the highest numbers in sales everywhere he’s been.
It all started with home schooling…in fact I haven’t met a homeschooled kid that didn’t excel in everything they attempted to accomplish. There’s no reason for school to last as long as it does (daily). He was done every day by noon at the latest. He got to take trips throughout the year and still be able to do his school work. We have friends now that homeschool their kids and their kids are able to play sports for the local high school teams.

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Do you guys understand the meaning of the quotation marks?

Obviously you've never heard of the three R's of education.... "Reading Riting and Rithmatic."


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Originally Posted by wissmiss
I know that home schooling is a good option for some families and that there are choices out there for quality programs.

My point is - isn’t home schooling also an option for those that want to slack off and not give their kids a “book learning “education?

I know you guys dislike government control of any sort but with home schooling, who is to say the children are learning “reading, righting and rithmatic”?

I can see this thread going down hill very fast, so let’s try to keep it civil.



Have you seen the reading and math levels coming out of a lot of public schools . hs diplomas given out to people that read at a 6th grade level and can't do basic math without a calculator. There can be good and bad to everything and it's 100% there will be some bad any time people are involved. I'm a personal responsibility person and don't like needing permission from the government to live. others need to be told.

Yes, just like everything for crap parents and probably some abusive ones it's a way to keep the state off their back .
Myself I didn't want to homeschool at first at all. but my wife started going to play groups with the kids and I didn't realize it at first but they were homeschool groups. I notice how the kids acted spoke and watched out for the younger kids.

Some teens were playing basket ball and a toddler ran out on the court to get the ball. I jumped up and ran but was to far away to get ther in time. I just knew that toddler was going to get trampled by the teens charging down the quart.
To my surprise the teens stopped and gave the toddler the ball. That would not have been the outcome at a public school function.
It took over a year but after that year I Decided to let the wife give home schooling a try. It's worked out well. Apparently my home schooled 22 year old has top grade in her nursing class. She is also the youngest. I would say she more than keep up.

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You were right. I'm sorry, I am just trying to answer your questions.


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Yes - sure is an option for parents that dont even want to do anything. On the other hand it is an option for parents who want to raise their children and teach them and guide them. We home schooled our children the first 8 years of school. They both are getting straight A's in public school now and are extremely bored......I guess we taught them good unuf and thay cann ad and sutract. On all mandatory testing - they are above all grade levels of expected learning.

Just like public school - works for some folks just fine and others fail at it. Again - it starts at home. Parents are supposed to raise their children. Some good teaching to begin with......

Psalm 127:3
"Children are a heritage from the Lord, the fruit of the womb a reward". This verse recognizes that children are a gift from God.
Ephesians 6:4
"Fathers, do not exasperate your children; instead, bring them up in the training and instruction of the Lord".
Deuteronomy 6:6-7
"These commandments that I give you today are to be on your hearts. Impress them on your children".
Proverbs 22:6
"Train up a child in the way he should go; even when he is old he will not depart from it".
Proverbs 1:8
"My son, hear the instruction of thy father, and forsake not the law of thy mother".
2 Timothy 3:15
Hebrews 12:7-11.
Isaiah 54:13
Psalm 103:13-18
Psalm 8:2

Just a few good teachings.

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Originally Posted by Dirt
I don't know how long you could get away with not schooling them? If I remember right, we had yearly mandatory testing and quarterly sending in of samples of work.

I don't know how it goes other places, but here you basically agree to homeschool a certain number of hours, and tell the state what you'll be teaching, but there's nobody who checks up on you.

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Originally Posted by Dirt
I don't know how long you could get away with not schooling them? If I remember right, we had yearly mandatory testing and quarterly sending in of samples of work.



Same here. I was involved with homeschooling a step daughter. Taught her to count by listening to the squeaking of her snowshoes at four years old. It was a lot of work but well worth it IMO.

I have known several kids that were home schooled and only one came up short.

The two across the road from me are 16 & 17. Never been to public school. The older....a girl... Just spent the summer taking classes at MIT. She will start there full time next year in a STEM program. Her younger brother did an internship this summer at the US Naval Academy and sees that as his next goal.

All of them, except that one have been well spoken. mature, polite, and can more than hold their own in any social setting.


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Originally Posted by loosegoose
Originally Posted by Dirt
I don't know how long you could get away with not schooling them? If I remember right, we had yearly mandatory testing and quarterly sending in of samples of work.

I don't know how it goes other places, but here you basically agree to homeschool a certain number of hours, and tell the state what you'll be teaching, but there's nobody who checks up on you.


each state has different requirements.

typically the home schoolers we know are typically but not always christian parents and really put in the work starting at a very young age. The people at the library once to 3 time a week before the kids can talk and reading books to them every day and night.

They want results and put in the work.

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We had to meet with someone from the county school system once per year per child and show them samples of what we were doing, textbooks, etc, but there was no requirements. Seemed more like a CYA exercise on their end.

One of ours did go to a public middle and high school, for sports, but quickly got recruited by a private school, lol.

All are well rounded and are excelling.

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Originally Posted by wissmiss
I know that home schooling is a good option for some families and that there are choices out there for quality programs.

My point is - isn’t home schooling also an option for those that want to slack off and not give their kids a “book learning “education?

I know you guys dislike government control of any sort but with home schooling, who is to say the children are learning “reading, righting and rithmatic”?

I can see this thread going down hill very fast, so let’s try to keep it civil.



Quite a few "home schooled" here are in reality discipline cases getting out ahead of getting kicked out.

But those kids would've most likely dropped out anyway. Sad but true.


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