I can’t wrap my head around something and can’t seem to shake it.

I’ve got a couple of hunting and fishing buddies that have to ‘ask permission’ if they can go hunt or fish. If the wife complains too much, they’ll bow out or cancel. Just can’t fathom this.

I spend time with my wife during the offseason and often do things that wouldn’t be high on my list like an occasional road trip to a winery and stuff like that, but she knows that Spring time is turkey hunting, shad runs, crappie fishing and bass spawning time. Fall is dove, archery, ML, duck season and checking traps. She doesn’t make any plans for us during these seasons and just assumes that I’m outdoors. She’s never made a face or complained.

I will say I’ve always made Holidays a family priority and always put kids’ school and sports first, but outside of that, I’m outside when I need to be.

Any of y’all deal with this kind of thing at home or with friends??

Apparently your friends treat their woman differently than you. Heck, during my hip recovery mine drove me to the woods and dropped me off for a little while just so I could sit. She knows the outdoors is what keeps me normal. It’s all in the woman you marry and how you treat her.

Maybe so. I’ve seen you post family pics and talk up your wife. I try to do the same with mine. I consider it more of a common respect between us. That either of us would tell the other NO or try to pull a guilt trip just doesn’t register for me.

I just have to take mine with me, she gets mad if I go fishing while she has to work but she still goes. She is a big help out trapping and holds a leg while gutting. Beats all my other hunting partners, she’s way better looking and don’t play the who can rip the biggest fart game. Maybe I’m whipped?

wws

If I'm on the trapline, 99% of the time mine is with me.

Wish I could get mine to go, just not her thing.

I'm stubborn that way.
Have lost some great gals because of it.
I wanna be outdoors. It's who I am. I could care less about family functions. Actually makes me uncomfortable being in them.
I don't have ANY dress clothes, shoes ect.
What you see with me is what you get...Always.
My mom,dad, brother and sisters know (unless the weather is horrible), if I have a deer tag in my pocket,traps to check,ect, good chance I won't make it to the " shindiggs".
They all know now not to throw the guilt trip on me.
I'm not a " special occasion " type person.

No quilt. Just honest.
Heck, just me being somewhere I don't wanna be can ruin it for those that want to be there.
They all can feel the vibe..

My wife said to tell you I'm not whipped.
She will go anywhere with me I ask her to. Just being together no matter where.

My buddy and I were trapping In SC. Missed sending his wife a valentines day card. I heard her yelling at him over the phone. He got In his truck and left that day, Talk about being whipped.
Then he had the nerve wanting a share of the fur I CAUGHT after he left. After I had to pick up all the steel and skin all that fur at the end of the season.

I don’t know about whipped but gosh I’d do anything for my wife and I’m (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) lucky to have her. I tell her all the time I’m the luckiest guy in the world.
(Right dear?)

My wife loves to hunt and fish. And goes with me often. But she also likes me to go by myself also.
She doesn't have much interest in trapping. YET

First anniversary, up at 4am told her happy anniversary as I headed out the door to go chase turkeys. We settled that issue when I got in about dark. The next weekend she learned to turkey hunt. Lots of things that gal has learned in the last 25 years, setting my schedule ain't one of them.

I know the type, they can’t do anything without the wife’s blessings. used to get frustrated when I was running a coal mine. On Thursday, I’d ask the day shift if I had any volunteers to work Saturday ( overtime ). There was always guys who would tell me they needed to ask their wife first. I’d always respond,” Listen Bud, I’m trying to make up a work roster. I don’t want your wife to work, I’m asking you….yes or no. “

When I had the opportunity to work extra, I took the overtime. One income family, the extra money made a big difference.

Maybe they don't really like you and are using their wives as an excuse to get out of being with you.

bush or beer,,,, every mans choice.
I always ask my wife because she would never say No, unless there was something important that day, that my pee brain forgot.......

Whipped doesn’t mean that a man doesn’t pursue his passions…necessarily.
Chuckie loves to golf but he usually will go do 18 holes if I have to work on a Saturday. He saves our days off together so we can do stuff as a couple.
If he has a scramble or other event, I try to arrange something so I’m not home and bored without him.
Mostly if we have time off together we fish and hunt together. But I’m just fortunate in that aspect I think.

Yeah… considered it, but I’m pretty awesome. I’m generally the one approached with the plans to do something as well.

Working opposite schedules suck,,,,,
Did that for year when we first married.
got her knock up 3 times, and she got to be a stay home mom/creative person on how to make money off dirt.

I guess I got lucky. My wife was weak and said yes 38 years ago. She never hunted or anything outdoors really, girls weren't allowed to do that in her family. I took her on a couple deer pushes and she wanted to shoot my gun, I let her and it was all outdoors from there. Now she deer, hunts, bear hunts, turkey hunts, and traps. She is the best outdoors person in her entire family, 8 kids. I love being in the outdoors with her, and she knows I love it. We work the land etc.

Now my son, is so, uhmm, whipped, is an understatement, manipulated, and controlled. Just shake my head but cannot keep my mouth shut. World revolves around her and he will not see it. His choice, leads to disrespect for the rest of us though.

It's called being a simp.

A successful marriage is growing old and learning to ignore each other most of the time. Just my take on it.

That said my wife goes on bus tours with her sister or to the casino, I go hunting without any hassles, I think it’s good for both of us to get some space of our own. I could be back in a week or a month no real time limit “my advice to you younger guys is NEVER say you’ll be back at any certain time!) if your 10 minutes late your late you will hear about it. if you say in a few days it’s open to interpretation then.

My wife is my best friend. I always council with her before I make any big decisions, as that is what I believe to be Biblical. Sometimes, we have irreconcilable conclusions; that is when I make the decisions; and she is OK with it.

As far as hanging out with my buddies, I always let her know cause she is my best friend.

I’m suddenly in the mood to fistfight a lot of younz

Are they whipped (whatever that is) or are they just being respectful and asking if their wife has other plans?

I hunt or fish or do whatever most of the time, we also take a lot of day trips places and go visit lots of festivals and renaissance fairs! We have a family calendar that we mark important dates on. We check that calendar before either of us schedule things.

Most opening days of seasons and annual festivals are on it. If I just wanted to go off and do my own thing all the time, I would be single. Now, don’t get me wrong, we both still do stuff alone, but we are also together the rest of the time. Just gotta give the other a heads up.

I will say, I hunt and fish mostly during the week, that is my time to do those things. Saturdays are for family, Sundays are for deer hunting a few hours in the morning or evening. Only exceptions are opening day of dove season, duck seasons and the various turkey seasons!


I like being happily married and continuing my career as a wife moocher.

Pack a lunch lady, head on down to the Delmarva Peninsula!

I think I just asked you to make me a sandwich, sorry about that!

Can’t argue with that! I feel the same way…. About my wife being my best friend, not yours being my best friend. Although, I’m sure your wife is a lovely person.

Younz was enough to get my southern hackles up, lol.

Bless her heart.

If I’m not hunting or trapping I’m with wife when I’m in the house, after the first cup of coffee in the morning then we talk it’s a rule. LOL

Smash… How would you react to your man telling you that you CAN’T do something? Not something that could get you hurt or is a bad judgement on your part, but you’ve made plans and he says NOPE, you ain’t going or lays a bad enough guilt trip on you that you give in.

I’m not disparaging my wife. We have common enough respect for each other and do enough stuff together that she simply wouldn’t do what I’ve described. Neither would I.

To heck with your hackles! You ain’t seen hackles till you seen Lycan hackles!

My wife is great she’s been employee of the year for the last 30 years I give her a lot of credit for that!

I respect my husbands headship if that’s what you’re asking. He takes care of us and I trust him. I’m battling right now cause I want another dog. It really isn’t a good time and my emotions are winning. I ain’t on the right page so I can’t get mad at him for not being there either. But I’m still grouchy about it

Ha! She can be a real PITA DelawareROB, but I love her dearly and she loves me!

I know she feels the same for me.

My brothers married gals that think more of themselves than they should. The younger one is now single again, not by his choice and it was pretty bitter. Funny how fast she got herself another fellow and how quickly she done got backslidden from her prim and proper Southern Baptist ways. What upsets me is how she's all but ruined their daughter and poisoned the two boys against their dad.

Mama called that whole scenario some twenty years ago and Dad gave her no slack either.

The other one married one of those holiness COG types that came into the marriage from a single wide without a pot to pee in. Gave him three boys, none of which respect their mama. First clue should've been not taking my brother's name. Total deal breaker in my book. Now she runs around claiming to be a COG pastor without a pulpit. That brother really angers me because he was raised to know better and done gone against his raising. But he made his bed.

When we were under 50 mine not only encouraged me to go but was kind hurt if I didn't take her plus she'd step up and help with packing the mules, saddling horses, setting up tents and doing the cooking, now with both of us over 70, still get encouragement to get gone but she isn't as interested in going along, guess that's how we get to celebrate 54 years togetherness next thursday

A woman's take, as Drifter's wife.

If we're trapping, these days, it's usually together unless I have work, when he then checks the traps. But it's a single trapline.

If it's hunting, it's usually me, as he doesn't have that much interest in hunting.

Years ago, work schedules forced us to run separate traplines. I worked days, he worked nights. We ran two separate lines and did our own thing.

As far as the whole permission thing, I think it's just common courtesy to check with your spouse before making plans... both ways.

I think the main difference is that women tend to know when there's something on the schedule, while men don't, therefore they ask. For example, if someone invited us to a wedding or party or some such, and I knew my husband had something else (like, for example, a hunting trip) planned that weekend, I would turn down the invitation. I wouldn't have to ask my husband if he had anything planned that weekend, because I would already know that he did.

Men, on the other hand, don't tend to keep track of things like that, so before committing to a hunting trip might want to check with the wife to make sure it's not their brother's wedding what weekend or some such.

Just because someone wants to check with their spouse before committing to a hunting weekend doesn't in any way mean they're whipped.

On the other hand, if they tell you they can't hunt that weekend because they need to take their wife shoe shopping, well then maybe lol.

I would never tell my husband he couldn't do something "just because". If he asked about something a particular weekend, I WOULD remind him if we already had prior commitments that weekend.

I think you're thinking people are whipped without perhaps knowing the full story.

In the extremely rare case that we're at complete odds over what is to be done a certain date, I tend to let him win, lol.

Warrior, what is COG? Never heard of it.

Great post Yote!

Church of God, I'm guessing.

Where did she say she did that to her husband? If she did, I missed it.

my wife just sent me a picture of a shirt. it Said may God watch out for young relationships during their first deer seasons.

being we started dating at 16 she has always known October starts deer and it goes through December.

YET she did plan and schedule our weeding October 16th. I can't believe I went along with that. But she was right and the fall colors were in full swing and reflecting off the lake for even more effect made for great Pictures..

she never has said a word and knows my vacation will be schedule around hunting dates mostly youth hunts and trips for the kids the last decade. never a complaint out of her she knew who I was from day 1. she used to hunt with me but does not like the cold and stays home now. I think I probably concentrated on help keeping her warm more than on the hunt when we were younger and more on the hunt as we got older causing the lost intrest i. hunting. But the house is alway warm when I get home with hot food and drinks around other hot stuff waiting on me when I get home from a hunt.

I have never asked my wife for permission to do anything. If I want to go do something, I tell her and I do it.

Sometimes I’ll ask her if there’s any plans this weekend, incase I forgot about some event.

I show up for family gatherings and birthdays. I actually enjoy them!

If I have company over and we’re chatting in the entrance or in the garage and it’s late, my wife will never hound me to come to bed or be nagging about anything.

If I’m out fishing late, I never get a phone call demanding me home, ever!

From about October 15th-December 5th ish I will be hunting every single day.

And that’s just the way it is.

And I suspect gunnleg would consider you whipped for asking her if there are plans that weekend.

myself I ask general as it's polite and I value my wifes thoughts and opinions as she respects mine. I would hope everyone in a relationship had the same respect for each other. It's not wiped just respect to your spouse the person you decided valuable enough to marry and commit your life to.

asking if There are plans or something they would like to do together or if there is something I forgot about ( happens often) is necessary in a healthy relationship. if you don't valuable and respect your spouse why on earth marry them?

my guess Is the men with the most bravado on line are the most likely to be a wiped simp in real life and can project their desire to be a what they think is a Dominant man on line. but I'm just spit balling.

Wife and I have been together now some 37 yrs. We had our son when we were in our late teens. We ate everything that I could catch or kill for many years because we had to. She has a passion for fishing that is second none and will hunt sporadically (she also owns more handguns than me). About the time that my son could walk he was in the woods or on the water with me. Wife knows all the seasons and understands what drives me and never has any expectations of me during these times minus household chores. But..... It didn't start out that way. A lot of bickering and bs for a few years. When it finally clicked in her she sat me down and apologized for what she called "being greedy". I never saw it that way but that is how she felt.

Sometimes it takes a significant other to understand the passion and desire. Some never do. Be grateful and appreciative if yours does. I owe a great debt to my wife of which I fear I will never be able to repay.

I believe that being a simp is the underlying cause of a lot of divorce. Boys are being taught that masculinity is a bad thing. Things like toxic masculinity are tossed around a lot. Its unnatural. So a young woman finds a man that allows her to be the dominant partner. Both think its the way to a successful marriage. After a few years the woman loses respect for her husband and the man is frustrated trying to be what he is not. I am not talking about a man being a tyrant. Asking your wife if she has plans before you go out drift fishing all night is not being a simp its showing respect. In every relationship one person will be dominate. Its unnatural for a man not to assume that role. If he does not his wife will lose all respect for him. In most cases at least. Something like 90% of the time its the woman who files for divorce.

No…not the case at all. My using ‘whipped’ might have been a poor choice and perhaps my rant to start this thread could’ve been written better.

If you have plans with your wife, kids, family, God, you name it, good on you. If you have to change your plans because something family related came up, good on you. If you make plans with someone and cancel because your partner has guilted you out of going or if you have to ask permission (their words on more than one occasion) then I think something is wrong in your relationship.

The wife and I hunt, fish and trap together, in the off seasons we look for new adventures always have since we got married. I always tell our boys make sure you can be friends with the person you choose and that you have some hobbies in common or the novelty of being attracted to each other will fade fast.

I can't be friends with any man who calls his wife "Wifey." Off topic a bit, but an important data point for potential friendship.

If a buddy has to "ask for permission" from his wife to hunt or fish with me, I lose a lot of respect for him and it may be over.

Being considerate of existing plans is different than permission. I would never ask mine for permission--we're busy people so I certainly coordinate. I owe that to her, my kids and myself. Same rules for her.

Agreed!

Danny -

You are correct. Men today very much do not know how to love and lead their wife. I have only been married 19 years and still cherish and thank God for my wife. I am still learning how to love and respect her for what she means to me. We prioritize our relationship with our Lord first and then each other. If something is out of whack, generally I have not spent enough time with my Creator......I firmly believe God has given me what I NEED to better myself. I may not always enjoy the trials and tribulations but growing and learning is not always fun - sometimes it hurts. I definitely would never consider myself whipped but extremely blessed.

Told my wife that I hunted, trapped, and fished all my life and it wouldn't change after marriage. She has never hounded me about it. Now some friends I had in the past were different. If your other half had to give you permission to go, well that's why they're past friends.

My wife knows what I am and what I do. No "permission" is ever asked. I write a note or tell her what I'm doing. She does the same.

It’s about any scheduling conflicts not about permission.

One of the reasons I never wanted to get married. Whipped guys (today they're called "simps") make me sad and angry. I would never stand for that nonsense.

Wife and I will be married 33 years at the end of this month. We dated for 5 years before that so we both knew what we were signing up for when we married.

She sometimes goes fishing with me but mostly sunbathed on the back deck unless the fishing is really good. She has killed several deer but mostly a fair weather hunter.

Nope I'm married and trap,hunt,and fish as I please

Sounds like a lot of you have wives that are glad to get rid of you Bars in town used to have a "Hunting Widows" night for the deer opener My wife would'nt let me go

My wife has never complained about my outdoor activities.when she was younger and could get around better she used to coonhunt and deer hunt with me.but if there were family events such as the kids in sports that would take priority over hunting.you have to have common sense and common ground in a marriage .there were years I hunted on new years eve night and even hunted a few times on Xmas night after there were done with the family get together and the kids were in bed.

Church of God

Was really enjoying the thought about bachelor life until I met my now fiancé. I told her after a while there wouldn't be a ring until I know she survived a hunting season with me. September 1st to the beginning of November (hunting slows down when I start coaching basketball) is when she can expect me being in the field, marsh, pond, etc.

She gets this is the only time of the year and I can't move hunting season to a more convenient time for her/me.

She has since pushed me further into the outdoors saying I should start filming hunts and posting hunts. She has spent more time with me in the early mornings.

Maybe it's us being more mature (her 33/me 28), but we understand what's very important for both of us, and we respect that about each other.

When my wife and I got together she knew my pursuits. Her dad was basically like me.

The only thing she had to get used to was I was into archery and her dad wasn't.

She has planned stuff during hunting season that I just don't show up for. She's usually not happy with me, but she gets over it pretty quick.

My wife is big for putting things on a calendar and not telling me about them. I usually tell her when I have something to do.

My wife drives very little anymore so I try to be around when she needs to go somewhere.

As for asking permission neither of us do that unless it's for something big. Generally it's just coordinating schedules.

Angela summed up a good working relationship.

She's right, the ladies do tend to keep a better calender while we menfolk tend to be more focused one day at a time. Look a squirrel, lol.

One year I wrote "TRAPPING" on the calendar every day the season was open. She wasn't amused. But, I trapped almost every day that year, except when I was sick.

What hacks my missus off is how she keeps her calender and from time to time lays it all out for me in some long winded conversation just to have me come along a day or two later and ask for a confirmation on a specific date. Says I don't listen or something, lol.
I just need a confirmation that nothings changed.

I’m very fortunate to have a wife who loves to hunt, fish and trap with me. I’ve never had to ask permission to pursue my hobbies nor would I expect her to ask my permission to pursue her interests. Eric

Soyboys all around

simp.lol.

My buddy went on a fishing trip once with his old boat. He had been saving for a new boat and had his cash in his sock drawer or whatever. When he got back from fishing his gf had bought all new furniture and his cash was missing out of his sock drawer. He called her parents and told them to get ready b/c her and all her stuff would be there in about an hour. lol.

Just sounds like they have different priorities then you do, it’s not all that uncommon, you make allowances for those you love just as they do for you, or that’s the way it’s supposed to work anyways sadly there are way to many that have been brought up believing that what they believe in is the only right and proper thing and it’s up to them to put you on the proper path

To me being whipped means your letting your wife/husband or significant other
Run your life and dictate what you can and can’t do, such as you can’t own a gun anymore, can’t hunt/fish/trap or watch sports ect. Or you have to change your views on what you support and stand for to me that being whipped

My family has always known where I stand and what I support and after all these years they know I am unlikely to change my mind, but I don’t mind a good argument and they know their free to try and change my mind and a few time they have managed to do so but not often, they also know I will support their right to believe what they want even if I don’t believe as they do

They also know they will get an argument if they bring it up and try to change my mind

this is a male brain female brain thing.

All I need is the information. My wife will talk in circles for the equivalent of 5 pages. All I need is the equivalent of 2 or 3 sentences out of that. I have to try to sift through all the useless info and pick out the little that's needed.
i also have a very short attention span and have had the ADHD lable since I was a kid..

I only need the info that's relevant not the circular story. She used to get mad when I would ask for the condensed version. Now it's a deep breath brain resets and I get a much shorter version. still more than needed but considerably shorter.

Don't get mad smash men and women are different it's OK to to talk and point those things out. Understanding the difrences and how to address them best on both sides make for those 65 year marriages instead of the working on my 5th x wife.

Full disclosure this mis my 20th year married and we dated for 8 years before that. My daughter was 2 and our flower girl in our wedding. so working on geting to the 50 year anniversary and 60 after that I'd I live long enough.

Keith is right. A man has to be a man and lead, set boundaries, & not put up with the crap test women try and check that quickly. otherwise She will see the man as weak and quickly loose respect for him. typically that lead to cheating and divorce in today's 20 to 40 year old age bracket. ladies want a strong man as a provider and protector regardless of WHaT the feminist try to claim. it's how they are made. Now that's not a tyrant being a man is not being a tyrant. A tyrant is actually a very weak male. A Man knows how to be strong and when to be soft, understanding and admit and apologize when he is wrong.

Feminist will end up alone child less and miserable with their cats. They buy the lie of not needing or wanting a man and it's to late by the time they figure it out. That Biological clock doesn't stop.

He handled that like a man should. No way that was going to work out no reason to wast any more time on her and move on.

You can't let a woman put you in a box .

Actually,......ah, never mind.

My buddy says Happy Life you have no wife.

I think what some of you are perceiving as “Asking permission” is really more a husband who is not self absorbed and actually considerate of his wife Not saying in all cases. I realize their are selfish and controlling wives out there. I’m just saying not every time a husband consults with his wife about some means he is asking permission.
Sometimes after the consulting with his marriage partner he decides it is not a good time to go. That’s called being
Selfless instead of selfish.

I’ll go ahead and say it so y’all won’t have to type it out “That’s just something whipped men say”. LOL

Some men pay good money to be whipped by women, ain’t my thing but heard plenty of stories….

Men like these have been totally emasculated.

They have long since surrendered their man card
and their wife/girl friends have aquired a small,
petite, ankle dog as their most significant other.

You can tell these "men" when they are out in public
because they follow their wifey around while physically
carrying the ankle dog in their arms looking defeated !!

It's a disgrace the male race to even call these
low testosterone, limp wristed, girly boys men !!!

Add man buns and skinny jeans as leading indicators.

And letting their wife drive. I am not sorry, that's a man's job if they are together.

YOUNZ ?

Is that an actual word ?

Just what does it mean ?

Hahahahaha

I was thinking the same thing.

Waiting for NortherntrapperO's opinion before I commit.

If you can get her to go WITH you, that would go long way to ease tensions. After all she wants together time, and doing things YOU don't like.

With me, surely you’re joking…..

I’m one of the lucky few who has a fantastic wife.
She wholeheartedly supports my outdoor pursuits and understands why I do it.

Heck I just went to Florida for a week by myself she was ready for me to come home but she enjoyed the quiet she said lol

I have a friend who is totally whipped, both he and his wife need serious counselling, but I seriously doubt it would help. He occasionally exhibits a Freudian slip and refers to his wife as mom. Such as I say; "Bill, do you want to head over to Blewett Pass for the day?, and he responds, "I'll have to ask mom first". It embarrasses him when he does this; it should.

I think most guys who are whipped have some sort of mom issues that they really need to address. However, the solution may not be pretty.

Are they whipped or afraid of divorce. Men lose everything. It's a big deal.

I have a news flash:
Money is not the most important thing in the world.....

It's another reason I decided in my 20s to never get married. The man always loses. 80% of divorces are started by women. It's 90% if they have a college degree. No thanks!

Mine has a farm. I like anything that gets me into the wilderness. Ill dump a thousand dollars on a hobby, and she says " don't complain about my feed bill mister."

I'm the same way with my employer. I said " I'm going elk hunting and I'm not coming back til I tag out or the season ends. I'm not asking and I have quit before because an employer reneged my time off

Bub bye…you signed up. Not me.

He wouldn’t get the reference.

As my daddy always said when i was about 13.

Boy, you’re like a dog chasing a car, you wouldn’t know what to do with it if you caught it!


Hahaha

The only man that's wipped are those that let it happend.

A man is more likely to be whipped if they have children together. A man would crawl through the fires of Hattie's for their child.
Not much more enjoyable than coming home to the smiling faces of your children

You got that right.

It's a 'Burgh thing you wouldn't understand. It depends on how far out from the 'Burgh you are as to how it's spelled. But it's pronounced the same everywhere. "YINZ"

at least 30% of men find out those children are not really his. This is a direct result of her loosing respect for a weak male and cheating happens. thousands of stories of this happening and only found out when the family does the DNA find where you came from test or when there is a medical issue and dad finds out he is not a match and there is only one reason why.

One thing I've seen , and it's sad , is a guy getting rid of their guns because a significant other is afraid of them. I've even seen a guy sell his bow&arrows because of the other half doesn't want them in the house.

There has been a push recently for girlfriends/wifes to get a guy to get rid of their video game console. It is competition to them getting 100% of the man's attention. Very toxic if you ask me.

If a guy submits to a women's wishes 100% of the time , she eventually views him as a bit of a looser because he has no spine.

I would love to hear the women's view here on Tman about the fact that a man with no spine is worth less than one who does.

If you raised that child, would it really matter what a test says?

not my feeling the children my wife well... That would be nuclear.

Would you stay for your children

Yeah! Not much I wouldn’t do for my children, or my wife.

absolutely not. staying for the children sounds good in the shallow thought process. dig deeper and you find its never a good thing. they will pick up on an unhappy home and the hostility no matter how hard you try to hide it. at will also model an unhealthy relationship standards and likely cause them to also have that in their lifes. like picking women that don't respect them and becoming a simp themselves. you also wast more of your life being unhappy and will loose even more of your retirement and wealth the longer you stay. Divorce will happen regardless of how hard you try to make it work.

it's best to be a man and move on. Find a woman that loves and respects you and model a health relationship to those kids.

How many of you that have posted BS,,,,will show your wife this Tread,,,,,,, LMAO

I will gladly show my girlfriend this thread.
She knows better. Period.

2x. My wife knows me been together since we were 16. I hide nothing from her and am and have been always strait forward and clear about who I am what I expect and my limits and i know her expectations. Break this limits and I will walk immediately. She knows this. Life is to short to live with a woman that doesn't respect you and if she dose thing tahr are a hard no for you she has no respect for you.

A simp will put up with his expectations being broken and will be un happy and end up divorced and loosing at least half his stuff in the future. A man knows his worth and value and won't. woman cheats and want to stay together for the kids nope. A woman that has a strong man with values know not to push the boundaries and respects his strength. If she sees him as weak and able to be controlled she will do what she wants.

It works both ways. A woman should drop any man that won't respect her and blows off her limits and expectations and is not meeting his obligations. She deserves respect. Each should Know their rolls and work together to their goals.

There's plenty of women who had poor upbringings and are loose goosies too. It ain't all on the man.

Bummer,,, Beaver trapping was more fun in town......
Were you a virgin?

My goodness, this has to be the saddest, lamest, worstest thread I’ve ever seen on T’man - evah!
Mods, please give it the axe.

I thinks they are Moran or Amish.....

There was no trapping it trended to follow me around in town. Seemed to be easy to come by for me. Had a lot of friend that had to work hard at it and were not successful trappers.

Every guy here knows for a fact once girls find out you drive a rusty old 4x4, hunt, fish, and TRAP the ladies are drawn to you and become almost annoying following you around. We don't even need to talk about our unfare advantage of smelling like lures and caster or the manure on your boots from the walk across the lot checking traps in the morning before school.