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Part D 300% Increase #8215509
09/14/24 09:06 AM
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snowy Offline OP
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Part D plan, and the rumors I heard about massive increases in plan D prices appear to be correct. My monthly premium amount is going from $12.30 to $47.30 and the deductible is increasing from $280 to $590. In addition, there are increases in co-payments for tier 1 and 2 drugs.

My understanding is these increases are a direct result of the Inflation Reduction Act which capped insulin prices and created an annual max out of pocket of $2000 for 2025 which is good, but apparently transferred a lot of those costs on to insurance companies which means everyone pays for it.
Another reason to be careful who you vote for.
I'm curious to see what everyone else will see for premiums next year, and to see if my current plan will remain one of the least expensive in my area.


Give me a fish, I will eat for a day. Teach me to fish, I will eat for a lifetime
Re: Part D 300% Increase [Re: snowy] #8215514
09/14/24 09:13 AM
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My supplement coverage has doubled in the last 8 years then they find things the still won’t cover it’s a racket!


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

Jerry Herbst
Re: Part D 300% Increase [Re: Law Dog] #8215521
09/14/24 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
My supplement coverage has doubled in the last 8 years then they find things the still won’t cover it’s a racket!

Terrible management from government.


Give me a fish, I will eat for a day. Teach me to fish, I will eat for a lifetime
Re: Part D 300% Increase [Re: snowy] #8215527
09/14/24 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by snowy
Originally Posted by Law Dog
My supplement coverage has doubled in the last 8 years then they find things the still won’t cover it’s a racket!

Terrible management from government.

Is it? Maybe not. Maybe it's planned? That would just be a conspiracy though, right?

Re: Part D 300% Increase [Re: snowy] #8215529
09/14/24 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by WI Outdoors

Is it? Maybe not. Maybe it's planned? That would just be a conspiracy though, right?


You think they are that smart?


Give me a fish, I will eat for a day. Teach me to fish, I will eat for a lifetime
Re: Part D 300% Increase [Re: snowy] #8215533
09/14/24 09:52 AM
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With increased prices on energy via the war on oil imposed by punitive regulations by ice cream joey and the the cackler, EVERYTHING goes up in price.

With forcing increases in minimum wages imposed by ice cream joey and the cackler, EVERYTHING goes up in price.

And the "inflation reduction act" is exactly the opposite. Here is a piece from an online article. I will post a link to the entire piece.

In addition to a weaker economy, Americans across all income groups will face higher taxes. This proposal would break President Biden’s campaign promise not to raise taxes on individuals earning less than $400,000.

Next year alone, the effects of the legislation will raise taxes on every single income category, including those earning less than $10,000 per year. In fact, those earning less than $10,000 per year will face a higher tax hike than millionaires under the legislation. The proposal would hike taxes on Americans earning less than $200,000 per year by a whopping more than $16.5 billion next year alone. By the end of the decade, roughly half of the new taxes raised by the plan would come from families earning less than $200,000.

In total, the “Inflation Reduction Act” will increase taxes and tax collections by roughly $470 billion. In addition to the increased size and scope of the IRS and higher fees on gas and oil, the legislation would impose a 15 percent minimum corporate tax rate. Undoubtedly, these increases would eventually be passed along to American consumers in the form of higher prices.

Ironically, the same manufacturers Congress recently voted to subsidize via the CHIPS and Science Act will face some of the highest tax consequences of the proposed “Inflation Reduction Act.” Half of the entire burden of the new minimum corporate tax would fall on manufacturers—including computer chip manufactures, far higher than any other industry.

Unfortunately, the higher prices Americans face will only be worsened by higher taxes under the “Inflation Reduction Act.”

https://thefga.org/research/inflation-reduction-act-would-hurt-americans-pocketbooks/

What most people with liberal mental disorders and TDS fail to see is the deflection the leftist marxists do. They impose massive tax increases that will hurt all people and all businesses then blame big business (pharma, grocery, energy) and successful people ( high income earners) for the problem they create. Marxist leftists talk about the greed of the corporations and millionaires all the while taking their money which increases their cost and by default increases the consumers cost. Then to add insult they take that money and tell low information voters they will give them more free stuff (medicaid, medicare, ssi) with the money they tax on half of all income earners as long as they vote for them. BUYING VOTES WITH TAX MONEY!!!

Then to complete the evil Nazi scheme, the media suppresses truth and info and feeds the masses only what the media and the marxists want them to hear. And GOD forbid someone tell the truth. Then they are labeled conspirators and right wing hacks.

The problem is TAXES. Taxes are imposed by the government, not businesses. When you vote for marxist leftists and expect taxes to decrease, please just go hit yourself in the head with a hammer. It will be just as stupid and fitting for a person with this intelligence.



How many lies will people believe before they realize their own idiocy?
Re: Part D 300% Increase [Re: bowhunter27295] #8215536
09/14/24 10:00 AM
09/14/24 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
With increased prices on energy via the war on oil imposed by punitive regulations by ice cream joey and the the cackler, EVERYTHING goes up in price.

With forcing increases in minimum wages imposed by ice cream joey and the cackler, EVERYTHING goes up in price.

And the "inflation reduction act" is exactly the opposite. Here is a piece from an online article. I will post a link to the entire piece.

In addition to a weaker economy, Americans across all income groups will face higher taxes. This proposal would break President Biden’s campaign promise not to raise taxes on individuals earning less than $400,000.42

Next year alone, the effects of the legislation will raise taxes on every single income category, including those earning less than $10,000 per year.43 In fact, those earning less than $10,000 per year will face a higher tax hike than millionaires under the legislation.44 The proposal would hike taxes on Americans earning less than $200,000 per year by a whopping more than $16.5 billion next year alone.45 By the end of the decade, roughly half of the new taxes raised by the plan would come from families earning less than $200,000.46-47

In total, the “Inflation Reduction Act” will increase taxes and tax collections by roughly $470 billion.48 In addition to the increased size and scope of the IRS and higher fees on gas and oil, the legislation would impose a 15 percent minimum corporate tax rate.49 Undoubtedly, these increases would eventually be passed along to American consumers in the form of higher prices.

Ironically, the same manufacturers Congress recently voted to subsidize via the CHIPS and Science Act will face some of the highest tax consequences of the proposed “Inflation Reduction Act.” Half of the entire burden of the new minimum corporate tax would fall on manufacturers—including computer chip manufactures, far higher than any other industry.50

Unfortunately, the higher prices Americans face will only be worsened by higher taxes under the “Inflation Reduction Act.”

https://thefga.org/research/inflation-reduction-act-would-hurt-americans-pocketbooks/

What most people with liberal mental disorders and TDS fail to see is the deflection the leftist marxists do. They impose massive tax increases that will hurt all people and all businesses then blame big business (pharma, grocery, energy) and successful people ( high income earners) for the problem they create. Marxist leftists talk about the greed of the corporations and millionaires all the while taking their money which increases their cost and by default increases the consumers cost. Then to add insult they take that money and tell low information voters they will give them more free stuff (medicaid, medicare, ssi) with the money they tax on half of all income earners as long as they vote for them. BUYING VOTES WITH TAX MONEY!!!

Then to complete the evil Nazi scheme, the media suppresses truth and info and feeds the masses only what the media and the marxists want them to hear. And GOD forbid someone tell the truth. Then they are labeled conspirators and right wing hacks.

The problem is TAXES. Taxes are imposed by the government, not businesses. When you vote for marxist leftists and expect taxes to decrease, please just go hit yourself in the head with a hammer. It will be just as stupid and fitting for a person with this intelligence.


And lets see who enacted legislation to this policy??
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...-a-mistake/ar-AA1q7RgM?ocid=BingNewsSerp


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Re: Part D 300% Increase [Re: bowhunter27295] #8215537
09/14/24 10:03 AM
09/14/24 10:03 AM
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Listen/read, free people (for now) in the good old U.S.A.!


“In God is our trust!” And the star-span-gled ban-ner in tri-umph shall wave O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave!
Francis Key
Re: Part D 300% Increase [Re: snowy] #8215538
09/14/24 10:04 AM
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Snowy nailed it!


“In God is our trust!” And the star-span-gled ban-ner in tri-umph shall wave O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave!
Francis Key
Re: Part D 300% Increase [Re: snowy] #8215547
09/14/24 10:27 AM
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Sad part is, people with TDS and leftists don't care about the truth. They deal in emotion instead of reason and logic.

Now here comes the bump stock mafia!!


How many lies will people believe before they realize their own idiocy?
Re: Part D 300% Increase [Re: snowy] #8215549
09/14/24 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by snowy
Originally Posted by WI Outdoors

Is it? Maybe not. Maybe it's planned? That would just be a conspiracy though, right?


You think they are that smart?

The people that run the world. Yes.

Re: Part D 300% Increase [Re: snowy] #8215562
09/14/24 11:42 AM
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SOMEBODY has to pay for the 30 million illegals...

Re: Part D 300% Increase [Re: snowy] #8215571
09/14/24 11:56 AM
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That ain't no joke...Medicare & Social Security are both not sustainable long term.


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Re: Part D 300% Increase [Re: snowy] #8215580
09/14/24 12:11 PM
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cue Harris, Pelosi and Schumer saying they will stop the big pharma price gouging

Put Elon in charge


http://www.usdebtclock.org/
This place is getting more like Facebook every day.

Re: Part D 300% Increase [Re: ky_coyote_hunter] #8215590
09/14/24 12:20 PM
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[quote=ky_coyote_hunter]That ain't no joke...Medicare & Social Security are both not sustainable long term.[/quote
Nothing is if you take more then you produce Spend more then you make destroy more then you build
Jules Verne forecast the future
George Orwell rang the bell great movies and books that no one believed would happen
Now we have Planet of the Apes and Mad Max


olden tyred
Re: Part D 300% Increase [Re: jeff karsten] #8215808
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https://www.cms.gov/newsroom/fact-sheets/cms-releases-2024-projected-medicare-part-d-premium-and-bid-information#:~:text=Average%202024%20Medicare%20Advantage%20(MA,the%20MA%20%26%20Part%20D%20Landscape.&text=The%20projected%20average%20total%20Part,2023%20to%20%2455.50%20in%202024.

Re: Part D 300% Increase [Re: snowy] #8215830
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Who created Part D of Medicare ?


Who is John Galt?
Re: Part D 300% Increase [Re: snowy] #8215834
09/14/24 08:49 PM
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SS and Medicare are under funded because nobody wants to touch it so it withers on the vine. It’s political suicide to push to raise it so little happens to keep it solvent. Look back at what you actually pay into it then figure how long it takes to get that back and more.

Last edited by Law Dog; 09/14/24 08:50 PM.

Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

Jerry Herbst
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
SS and Medicare are under funded because nobody wants to touch it so it withers on the vine. It’s political suicide to push to raise it so little happens to keep it solvent. Look back at what you actually pay into it then figure how long it takes to get that back and more.



UNDERFUNDED????

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Re: Part D 300% Increase [Re: Dirt] #8215857
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Originally Posted by Dirt
Who created Part D of Medicare ?


Can you tell us why that matters now?


How many lies will people believe before they realize their own idiocy?
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