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Re: GOLD [Re: Marty] #8216071
09/15/24 08:53 AM
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You can sell it to someone besides dealer for cash and forget about the tax. Right now with gold selling at 49 bucks above spot, it's not a good deal. Silver at 3.65 over spot is.

Re: GOLD [Re: Marty] #8216080
09/15/24 09:05 AM
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I read that if you're 65 or older that capital gains don't apply. Any truth to that?


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Re: GOLD [Re: Blaine County] #8216093
09/15/24 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
PF,

What if I bought it because I felt it would be worth more than it was when I bought it? Like Marty celebrating that little coin is worth a couple of bucks more.

What if I bought it to give me a headstart on being a warlord when the SHTF?

Obviously, I could have bought it as an inflationary hedge, but these are the questions I ask you to consider and decipher.




you could have bought it just becuse you wanted it and it would not have mattered if it would loose value. People buy things they want even when it goes down in value. just look at vehicles. Gold is a great buy to have.
But it's not the best investment for making money. Just like people thinking that their houses is an investment it's not it's a liability. Investments make money a house cost you money even when paid off. taxes insurance and up keep. so it's a liability. Sure it's likely to rise in value but you won't see that unless you sell it.


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Re: GOLD [Re: Marty] #8216094
09/15/24 09:26 AM
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Unrealized capital capital gains is what they are proposing

Re: GOLD [Re: concrete man] #8216097
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Originally Posted by concrete man
Unrealized capital capital gains is what they are proposing



in the past they have made gold illegal to own.

Re: GOLD [Re: Gary Benson] #8216098
09/15/24 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
I read that if you're 65 or older that capital gains don't apply. Any truth to that?



Not true. There is no capital gains tax age exemption.


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Re: GOLD [Re: Marty] #8216101
09/15/24 09:32 AM
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Ya think grandkids would think it would be cool to get some silver or gold pieces from grandpa when he passes?

Re: GOLD [Re: Blaine County] #8216129
09/15/24 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Originally Posted by Steven 49er
Some of us were buying sub1000.


Who cares, you don't make money on gold,


We must view the accumulation of wealth differently.

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Most likely our view the ability of currency to keep it's value is different


"Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan
Re: GOLD [Re: WI Outdoors] #8216131
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Originally Posted by Spike369
You can sell it to someone besides dealer for cash and forget about the tax. Right now with gold selling at 49 bucks above spot, it's not a good deal. Silver at 3.65 over spot is.

Please explain.

Originally Posted by WI Outdoors
Ya think grandkids would think it would be cool to get some silver or gold pieces from grandpa when he passes?

Birthdays and Christmas would be better. Teaches them the value of money


"Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan
Re: GOLD [Re: Blaine County] #8216144
09/15/24 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Blaine County

Like Marty celebrating that little coin is worth a couple of bucks more.



You should have seen the big party me and my women had last night in celebration.....I am still worn out from it all.... smile


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Re: GOLD [Re: Marty] #8216162
09/15/24 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Marty
Originally Posted by Blaine County

Like Marty celebrating that little coin is worth a couple of bucks more.



You should have seen the big party me and my women had last night in celebration.....I am still worn out from it all.... smile


I bet your keyboard and screen are too.

Re: GOLD [Re: Spike369] #8216170
09/15/24 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Spike369
You can sell it to someone besides dealer for cash and forget about the tax. Right now with gold selling at 49 bucks above spot, it's not a good deal. Silver at 3.65 over spot is.

Like the old saying goes, Paper Fiat Currency is King!


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Re: GOLD [Re: Blaine County] #8216200
09/15/24 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Blaine County


I bet your keyboard and screen are too.


No, just getting started.
Heck your on here more than me.


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Re: GOLD [Re: Marty] #8216210
09/15/24 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Marty
Originally Posted by Blaine County


I bet your keyboard and screen are too.


No, just getting started.
Heck your on here more than me.



you uploading your only fans stuff today? making any extra cash with it ?

Re: GOLD [Re: Providence Farm] #8216211
09/15/24 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Originally Posted by Blaine County
PF,

What if I bought it because I felt it would be worth more than it was when I bought it? Like Marty celebrating that little coin is worth a couple of bucks more.

What if I bought it to give me a headstart on being a warlord when the SHTF?

Obviously, I could have bought it as an inflationary hedge, but these are the questions I ask you to consider and decipher.




you could have bought it just becuse you wanted it and it would not have mattered if it would loose value. People buy things they want even when it goes down in value. just look at vehicles. Gold is a great buy to have.
But it's not the best investment for making money. Just like people thinking that their houses is an investment it's not it's a liability. Investments make money a house cost you money even when paid off. taxes insurance and up keep. so it's a liability. Sure it's likely to rise in value but you won't see that unless you sell it.


PF, with your analogy, stocks and mutual funds arent investments either....you never see the rise in value until you sell it. Im in the corner that houses and real estate are absolutely investments. The quicker you pay off, the better an investment it is.

Re: GOLD [Re: Providence Farm] #8216213
09/15/24 01:29 PM
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You want to see that don't you. Sorry to disappoint ya.

Originally Posted by Providence Farm





you uploading your only fans stuff today? making any extra cash with it ?


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Re: GOLD [Re: Marty] #8216224
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midlander I have you ever herd of dividends? houses and resistance are absolutely investments if your renting them out and they are bringing in money. The house you live in is necessary you need a place to live. But it's not an asset it's a liability. assets make money liabilitys cost you. Your house will cost you even when paid off. new roof, yard mowing, taxes and insurance. are a few examples. your vehicle is the same unless using it for business or its a collectors. it's loosing value and cost you money in repairs, tires, oil changes. But still necessary.

Sure your realtor tells you your house Is the best investment you will ever make to get you to feel OK and buy more house than you need and we're wanting so they can make a bigger commission.

it's simple if it makes money it's an asset, if it cost you it's a liability.

Net worth is figured assets - liability= your net worth. Your home value is definitely figured into your net worth as are your vehicles yet they are still a liability becuse they are a cost not profit.


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Re: GOLD [Re: Marty] #8216226
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Originally Posted by Marty
You want to see that don't you. Sorry to disappoint ya.

Originally Posted by Providence Farm





you uploading your only fans stuff today? making any extra cash with it ?




Only to get more marketing ideas for mine. All these girls are cashing in I'm sure there is a market for middle age Trappers.

Re: GOLD [Re: Providence Farm] #8216231
09/15/24 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
midlander I have you ever herd of dividends? houses and resistance are absolutely investments if your renting them out and they are bringing in money. The house you live in is necessary you need a place to live. But it's not an asset it's a liability. assets make money liabilitys cost you. Your house will cost you even when paid off. new roof, yard mowing, taxes and insurance. are a few examples. your vehicle is the same unless using it for bu or its a collectors. it's loosing value and cost you money in repairs, tires, oil changes.

Sure your realtor tells you your house I'd the best investment you will ever make to get you to feel OK and buy more house than you need and we're wanting so they can make a bigger commission.

it's simple if it makes money it's an asset, if it cost you it's a liability.

Net worth is figured assets - liability= your net worth. Your home value is definitely figured into your net worth as are your vehicles yet they are still a liability becuse they are a cost not profit.



So what you are saying is that stocks are a liability because you pay taxes on reinvested dividends each year even when you dont sell and make a profit ..?

Re: GOLD [Re: midlander] #8216235
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Originally Posted by midlander
Originally Posted by Providence Farm
midlander I have you ever herd of dividends? houses and resistance are absolutely investments if your renting them out and they are bringing in money. The house you live in is necessary you need a place to live. But it's not an asset it's a liability. assets make money liabilitys cost you. Your house will cost you even when paid off. new roof, yard mowing, taxes and insurance. are a few examples. your vehicle is the same unless using it for bu or its a collectors. it's loosing value and cost you money in repairs, tires, oil changes.

Sure your realtor tells you your house I'd the best investment you will ever make to get you to feel OK and buy more house than you need and we're wanting so they can make a bigger commission.

it's simple if it makes money it's an asset, if it cost you it's a liability.

Net worth is figured assets - liability= your net worth. Your home value is definitely figured into your net worth as are your vehicles yet they are still a liability becuse they are a cost not profit.



So what you are saying is that stocks are a liability because you pay taxes on reinvested dividends each year even when you dont sell and make a profit ..?



you made money regardless of what you chose to do with those profits. yes some returns are stolen by the government.

I'm thinking you just don't quite like your ideas challenged. You want to think your home is an asset cool a lot of people believe things that are not true just turn on the news you will see examples very quickly. It is OK very few Americans are financially educated. What's worse is how few try to get educated.


Now if you take out a loan on that house and use the money to make money more than the loan cost it could be an asset. or even using it for collateral for a business or other money making thing.

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