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Re: union haters [Re: Providence Farm] #8218990
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Teamsters just announced they are not endorsing a presidential candidate this year.

Membership endorses Trump 2:1.

President Trump is not a D.

Gee, I wonder why all of a sudden they don't want to endorse a candidate?

(Scratching chin) Hmmmm? Strange?

This one is gonna take a lot of time to understand for union guys.

smirk


How many lies will people believe before they realize their own idiocy?
Re: union haters [Re: bowhunter27295] #8218991
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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
Teamsters just announced they are not endorsing a presidential candidate this year.

Membership endorses Trump 2:1.

President Trump is not a D.

Gee, I wonder why all of a sudden they don't want to endorse a candidate?

(Scratching chin) Hmmmm? Strange?

This one is gonna take a lot of time to understand for union guys.

smirk



becuse just like our government they are only interested in serving their own intrest.

Re: union haters [Re: Providence Farm] #8218996
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All Crown employee's earnings are posted to the public.....in Mb I think it's called the Sunshine List...LOL.


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Re: union haters [Re: Providence Farm] #8218998
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Now that is quality leadership.

And all the teamsters dues support this stupidity.

But they get good pay and bennies.

I guess everyone has a price.


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Re: union haters [Re: bowhunter27295] #8219006
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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
Now that is quality leadership.

And all the teamsters dues support this stupidity.

But they get good pay and bennies.

I guess everyone has a price.



why do you go to work? You sell your time for a price. I'm beting it's not all for fun.. I'm just a heavy equipment operator and well over 6 figures for the year already. took a lot of hours to get there. Many union and non union make a lot more with less hours and most of the population makes a lot less.

generally most people that the best thing they can find. Got to say the 7 new hires sure are ecstatic and blown away happy about the job upgrad and quality of life change they just got.

Re: union haters [Re: Providence Farm] #8219054
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As of 2022, 10.1% of the American workforce is unionized1. Public sector unionization is higher at 33.1%1. The rate of employees represented by unions has been declining since 1983, reaching a historic low in 2023 with 11.2% of employees represented2. In 2023, 16.2 million workers were represented by a union, with private-sector unionization at 6.9% and public-sector unionization at 36.0%3. The free market can and does handle unions in a fair and competitive way. The reason the private sector union representation is so much lower than the public sector is because the private sector must compete. In my working days I was an operations manager for a major oil company and worked with both union and non-union contractors and had no issues with either. If unions contractors won the bids, they got the jobs. It is all about competition.

Re: union haters [Re: Providence Farm] #8219102
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I remember when the working man united to run thier own country. I believe the name of that union was the Soveit Union.


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Re: union haters [Re: Dirt] #8219114
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Originally Posted by Dirt
I remember when the working man united to run thier own country. I believe the name of that union was the Soveit Union.

True they should have chosen to be shot or spend life in a gulag Thankfully governments nowdays pay out subsidy's that way the get work out of folks and get their money back due to inflated prices win win


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Re: union haters [Re: Providence Farm] #8219117
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They just switched one tyrant for another.


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Re: union haters [Re: Providence Farm] #8219188
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Re: union haters [Re: Gary Benson] #8219196
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
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I can go along with this if your raised poorly with no principles or pride.

I currently ticked I have 4 semis to load waiting outside becues the door they come in in stuck mostly down

the electricians came back saw its blowing fuses and left. said it will be a while at least 40 min before the next shift makes it in and back to start working on it. So I have 4 truckers just sitting and waiting. if they had work ethic they would have stayed at it tell right to time to punch out.

Trucker just came in and let me know they are all leaving. I don't Blame them but I really wanted to get them loaded and get some more room empty so it has more room for the build up over the weekend.

Some people like to work some prefer to work harder not to work. it's a human nature thing. It's a management failure if they don't demand performance thay typically won't get any. They have plenty of tools to get rid of any slackers that just never even try.

Re: union haters [Re: Providence Farm] #8219211
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I would have gotten off my fork lift and started loading the trucks by hand.


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Re: union haters [Re: Nessmuck] #8219215
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Originally Posted by Nessmuck
I would have gotten off my fork lift and started loading the trucks by hand.


if you only knew what your talking about. I'm loading the stuff skimed off the top of the aluminum when it melts.
it mixes with Al and gets moved with a loader. your one heck of a man if you can pick up 12 k by hand. besides the loader is not broken its the door and they can't get the truck inside


We only move big stuff here your not moving anything by hand.

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Re: union haters [Re: Providence Farm] #8219221
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Re: union haters [Re: Providence Farm] #8219228
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Another day older and completely out of debt

Re: union haters [Re: Gary Benson] #8219789
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
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Sadly unions blissfully allow this and think nothing of it.

The title of this thread is UNION haters.

PF I hear that you have a work ethic and that is good. I totally understand you want to make more money. All of us do.

But, on the subject of UNION, you do understand the other guys laziness and sorriness is protected by unions as much as your strong work ethic is appreciated, right?

Does that sound like a merit based system or does it sound like socialism?

AGAIN, speaking on UNIONS only and their protection of sorry good for nothings. Not on good hard working individuals.

That lazy good for nothing that works with you will also get just as good of a pension as you will.

Think about how much better unions would be viewed and respected if they got rid of the chaf and only hired hard workers with ethics, unlike the electricians union that wouldn't work over 45 minutes to fix a shorted wire on a door motor.

Unions were put in place because people were being worked like dogs for poor wages. Unfortunately, the pendulum has swung too far and now the unions are seen unfavorably for giving floor sweepers giant pensions.

Two sides to every story. I get yours. Don't be blind to the other.


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When I was still working our brewery teamsters were 70 - 30 republicans we didn’t vote based on out of touch hierarchy

Re: union haters [Re: Providence Farm] #8219808
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Re: union haters [Re: Providence Farm] #8219825
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Was in a union long time ago, union wanted $1 and hour raise each year for three years. This was when a good wage was $5 per hour, which what I was making. Also got quarterly bonus was around $500.00 for damage control. Company offered .50 cents per hour each year for three years, the union walked because leadership said the company would cave. A year later settled strike for .55 cents more per hour first year, then .50 cents for the next two years. The union also requested damage bonus be payed monthly, first check was under $10.00. I quit shortly there after. no employee should be able to tell an owner of a business or company how much they should be payed with the threat of striking if they don't get their way. Not all sunshine and roses.

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Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
Was in a union long time ago, union wanted $1 and hour raise each year for three years. This was when a good wage was $5 per hour, which what I was making. Also got quarterly bonus was around $500.00 for damage control. Company offered .50 cents per hour each year for three years, the union walked because leadership said the company would cave. A year later settled strike for .55 cents more per hour first year, then .50 cents for the next two years. The union also requested damage bonus be payed monthly, first check was under $10.00. I quit shortly there after. no employee should be able to tell an owner of a business or company how much they should be payed with the threat of striking if they don't get their way. Not all sunshine and roses.



nothing makes an owner of a company not able to to lock them out and bring in non union workers.

the bean counters figure in the labor cost before signing the contracts.

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