Re: Clover plot
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09/25/24 09:15 AM
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It's best to get the grasses when young. Do it mid day after dew is burned off. Did you use a surfactant. That's important when spraying grasses. Clethodim is prefered.
swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo
You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
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Re: Clover plot
[Re: EdP]
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09/25/24 09:23 AM
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How many years do you want from one planting? I get two with no spray. White Dutch does better than deer clover BUT, not a controlled test. Mine is not "for" deer but they eat it. Rabbits n groundhogs too.
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Re: Clover plot
[Re: EdP]
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09/25/24 09:26 AM
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Randy Wieland
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All my clover lanes are surrounded with foxtail and other crap grasses. Guy from the AG services was out inspecting our crop fields and made a suggestion to me on clover. Ditch all the "food plot crap" and just order Dutch White clover. For the first three years, keep mowed at 2-3 inches and the clover will choke out the grass. 4 years later I have thick lush clover lanes and the critters are happy. I maintain it at about 5-6" now and very pleased with the results and lack of spraying more chemicals
Last edited by Randy Wieland; 09/25/24 09:27 AM.
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Re: Clover plot
[Re: EdP]
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09/25/24 09:38 AM
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Law Dog
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I’d just turn it under and start over to feed the soil some but I’m no farmer. Rain seems to be the key to success with food plots and grass in general. Our first year plots have exceeded our expectations because of the rainy weather.
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Re: Clover plot
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09/25/24 08:40 PM
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Average Joe
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I’ve mowed small plots of imperial whitetail clover very low, with a regular riding lawnmower, with very good results. Not sure it is an option for you, but something to consider trying before starting over.
Last edited by Average Joe; 09/25/24 08:43 PM.
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Re: Clover plot
[Re: EdP]
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09/25/24 09:00 PM
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Personally, I would not do white Dutch.
It's kinda a " black sheep" clover. If you used Imperial Brand, they mix that with an (annual) clover. It may look good the first year. Overall, my best plots are straight Ladino. Alot depends on your soil conditions . But as to your grass killing technique, Cleth,surfactant and timing should be fine. Clovers are purty tough. Even if you set them back, with decent rains, they usually bounce back. Side note, white clovers do better in moisture soils , red clovers can tolerate a bit drier soils. My opinion from planting clover plots for about 15 years.
swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo
You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
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Re: Clover plot
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09/25/24 09:54 PM
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JoMiBru
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Imox ( imazamox ) May help you better, use a heavy dose 8-12 oz per acre, Clover is tough to kill. Keep on the grass, spray as soon as you can see it. I’ve been doing Clover plots for myself and two other landowners for hire, for 14 years now. I also got away from using clethodim.
On another note, try this. Plant a small area of Frosty Berseem Clover. It’s an annual, but I’ve had excellent results with it. Grows fast, and creates more tonnage for Forage than traditional white clovers.
Bucksnbears have you ever tried Frosty Berseem? I know you have knowledge of food plots, I would certainly try it if you haven’t. I’m glad I did lol
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Re: Clover plot
[Re: JoMiBru]
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09/26/24 06:20 AM
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Bucksnbears have you ever tried Frosty Berseem? I know you have knowledge of food plots, I would certainly try it if you haven’t. I’m glad I did lol
No. Just heard about it recently. Where do you buy the seed.?
swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo
You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
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Re: Clover plot
[Re: JoMiBru]
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09/28/24 12:23 AM
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M.Magis
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Seed Barn online is where I get my Frosty Berseem, and don’t have to sign anything as Magis suggested. https://seedbarn.com/products/frosty-berseem-clover-seed-25-lbs?variant=12534664134756( from the label ) “Frosty, while preserving its Mediterranean genetics, has been bred for later maturity, cold tolerance, productivity, and nutritional value. Deer love Frosty's palatable and nutritious yields. In Mississippi food plot trials, Frosty was grazed by 4x more deer than other competing clovers. “ I didn’t say you had to sign something. I said that the website has a form to be submitted to find dealers. Its right there if you want to check.
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