Re: Gospel of John Chapter 8
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No matter how good a missionary is he can't win souls if his head is chopped off. I don't consider that a reasonable service nor hardly a living sacrifice. You are making an assumption that missionaries cannot operate in Muslim majority countries. I remember missionaries that operated over there saying most of the people were not radicals and souls were won.
Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
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Re: Gospel of John Chapter 8
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No matter how good a missionary is he can't win souls if his head is chopped off. I don't consider that a reasonable service nor hardly a living sacrifice. You are making an assumption that missionaries cannot operate in Muslim majority countries. I remember missionaries that operated over there saying most of the people were not radicals and souls were won. So probably the best way to deal with Hamas is to convert them to Christianity and they will turn what prisoners are left loose, before Israel continues their genocide as you would say. Well all loose except for the 1200 they raped and killed. The only thing worse that I can think of than the sun coming up and hear the rooster crow would be for the sun yo go down and no crowing at all to stir the conscience.
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Re: Gospel of John Chapter 8
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Lebanon is approximately 40+% Christians. That means the other 60% are more than likely Muslims. Basically they have been living amongst themselves peacefully for quite some time.
If you think about it, all Palestinians that are not Jews or Muslims, or instead Christians (they were the converted pagans); which we all were. This information can be found all over the place if one takes the time to see past what we are told here by the media.
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Re: Gospel of John Chapter 8
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How old are you Foxpaw? Are you a Boomer or Gen X?
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Re: Gospel of John Chapter 8
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I don't understand why Christians get so worked up about things that I can't even find in the Bible unless I really do some word gymnastics on what is written.
I won't even go into how Jesus called the jews out as the synogogue of Satan or the pit of vipers, but here is somethings that Jesus says. He was speaking directly to individuals so I take it as a direct criticism; not something spiritual; although the evil behind them was spiritual.
MATTHEW 13:53-57 16:2-12 21:13-19 22:29-32 All of Matthew 23
MARK 6:4 6:10-11 7:9 8:15 14:10-11
LUKE 11:32-36 13: 34-35 22:67-71
JOHN 7:32-36 8:44-47 10:22-42 18:20-24 18:36-37
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Re: Gospel of John Chapter 8
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How old are you Foxpaw? Are you a Boomer or Gen X? Old enough to know your intentions with this thread ! You mean seeking Truth?
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Re: Gospel of John Chapter 8
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Lebanon is approximately 40+% Christians. That means the other 60% are more than likely Muslims. Basically they have been living amongst themselves peacefully for quite some time.
If you think about it, all Palestinians that are not Jews or Muslims, or instead Christians (they were the converted pagans); which we all were. This information can be found all over the place if one takes the time to see past what we are told here by the media. In 1967 some 60% of Lebanon was Christian. One of the results of the 6 day war was a huge influx of refugees into Lebanon. Lebanon became divided. Christians fighting Christians and Muslims fighting Muslims. Since 1948 with the exception of Lebanon the Christian numbers have been purged in the middle east. And since the 6 day war they have returned to pre 1948 numbers in Lebanon. I believe this is a result of radical religion. Muslim, Jew, and Christian. All of which are a product of the powers that be.
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Re: Gospel of John Chapter 8
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Oh man, that is an inconvenient fact, and you did not even mention the USS Liberty!
It's the same playbook, it always has been. Cause war and chaos, then flood Christian nations with refugees. Europe is now gone. We will be soon as well; less we wake up.
Everything has certainly seemed to go downhill fast since 1948. Constant wars, taking God out of schools, mass immigration of folks that will not assimilate, gay pride, transgenderism, killing of babies in the womb, boys in girls bathrooms, forced vaccines, etc.
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Re: Gospel of John Chapter 8
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By Way of Deception, Thou Shalt Do War.
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Re: Gospel of John Chapter 8
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Oh man, that is an inconvenient fact, and you did not even mention the USS Liberty!
It's the same playbook, it always has been. Cause war and chaos, then flood Christian nations with refugees. Europe is now gone. We will be soon as well; less we wake up.
Everything has certainly seemed to go downhill fast since 1948. Constant wars, taking God out of schools, mass immigration of folks that will not assimilate, gay pride, transgenderism, killing of babies in the womb, boys in girls bathrooms, forced vaccines, etc. Just remember Chancey, It's knowledge that consumes us. As Jesus said unless we have the innocents of a child. Of course he also said be wise as serpents and gentile as doves. It's amazing when you seek truth what God reveals. But there is sure a lot of deception out there.
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Re: Gospel of John Chapter 8
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Funny, I just say you're last post just after I entered mine.
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Re: Gospel of John Chapter 8
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I have never understood how someone could be rabidly antisemitic and still follow Jesus, a Jew. They think the Jews are evil, money grubbing, tricksters, but think in this once incidence, they aren't? That makes no logical sense. It would make better sense, following their logic, that Jesus was the biggest trickster of them all convincing gentiles to follow him.
I like Jewish people. I've met a fairly number of them and besides one family of four, they've been decent people.
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Re: Gospel of John Chapter 8
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Now we can come back to John 8 perhaps. See the preacher man’s response or mine. Before the Messiah was exalted above all nations, Israel was God’s chosen family, the carrier of God’s promise - His promise to restore blessing to all nations. Jesus fulfilled that promise as the one, representative Israelite to carry out his half of the covenant with God. Now that Jesus is enthroned over the nations, we have entered into the new covenant of his blood which is available to all humans. The center or carrier of God’s promise (to save the entire world remember) is now Jesus and any that follow him.
We have some here who are evidently willing to bin all Jews together and call them evil or condemn them. We have others who think that the modern state of Israel must be supported in order the be on God’s good side. I don’t think either is biblical. What we are doing here is allowing national and ethnic boundaries to divide us. The apostle Paul would be ashamed. Unity between ethnic groups under Christ was one of his favorite topics. Read Ephesians or Galatians or Romans or anything else. He claimed that the nations and the Principalities and Powers that ruled them divided humanity, but Jesus’s lordship brought unity. That unity stripped the powers of their power and put them to shame. Now, under Christ, there is no Jew and there is no Greek. That doesn’t mean that we no longer have an ethnicity but that it is no longer ultimate and therefore divisive. All things are brought together under Christ. Which is what Jesus says in John 8. It is no longer Abraham’s genes that let you in, it’s the truth of the way of Jesus.
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Re: Gospel of John Chapter 8
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I have never understood how someone could be rabidly antisemitic and still follow Jesus, a Jew. They think the Jews are evil, money grubbing, tricksters, but think in this once incidence, they aren't? That makes no logical sense. It would make better sense, following their logic, that Jesus was the biggest trickster of them all convincing gentiles to follow him.
I like Jewish people. I've met a fairly number of them and besides one family of four, they've been decent people.
Keith Keith, all of the descendants of Abraham are semites. They all are descendants of Shem. It's not Jewish peaple I apose. It's Zionism= radical religion . I would assume you don't lump all of Islam into one group of evil. There are also plenty of radical Muslims. If so that would make you as anti Semitic a someone who hates all Jewish peaple. I personally love the Jewish peaple, as I do the Muslim People. I can't speak for others, but I would assume it's radical religious hypocrisy most peaple despise. The 144,000 in Revolation were Jews and Jesus said they had no guile in them. This meaning hypocrisy. The jews Chancy was referring to in the gospel were the radical leaders. The Saducees and the pharisees. False teachers. Peaple are often lumped into a group called antisemitism when the truth is most apose Zionism. Not the Jewish peaple.
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Re: Gospel of John Chapter 8
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Does the bible approve of self defense? Does Jesus approve of self defense.
I'm afraid the hatred of the 2nd has evolved into its alright for protection in your house but depending on your location and circumstances if you actually engage your 2nd right you will likely spend a lot of time and money getting out of it. Even just a show of force as in the gated community in St Louis was no picnic even for a lawyer.
I believe if you research terrorism pre 1948 you will see who first had to defend themselves, And what radical group were the authors of terrorism. Hystory speaks for itself. Conflict in the middle east is an ongoing conflict of offenses. Woe to the world because of offences! For it must needs be that offences come; but who to that man by whom the offense cometh. Matthew 18:7
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Re: Gospel of John Chapter 8
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It's a weird world we live in. If one is critical of what the nation of Israel does he's labeled anti semetic. If one is critical if what Hamas does he is labeled a zionist. Seems to me that a person with discernment can disagree with actions on both sides and pray for peace. Just remember, in heaven, if you make it, you are going to be hanging with people from all nations and there will be no room for hatred.
Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
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Re: Gospel of John Chapter 8
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It's a weird world we live in. If one is critical of what the nation of Israel does he's labeled anti semetic. If one is critical if what Hamas does he is labeled a zionist. Seems to me that a person with discernment can disagree with actions on both sides and pray for peace. Just remember, in heaven, if you make it, you are going to be hanging with people from all nations and there will be no room for hatred.
Amen to that skinner.
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Re: Gospel of John Chapter 8
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Agree 100% Giant Sage. I am not anti-Semitic. One could make an argument that I am anti-Hamitic though.
What happened to the Pharisees and Sadducees (the individuals that Jesus was referring to in the Gospels) after the destruction of Jerusalem in 70AD? Where did they go..........can any of ya'll recommend a good book or resource to this time period?
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