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Revolation #8242645
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Starting about 11 or 12 years ago I started receiving revolations in my dreams.
At the time I was seeking God and wanted to understand his word.
I believe this was answered prayers. Tonight has been one of those knights.
The revolation I have been receiving Tonight are actually on biblical language,
Especially the language of the book of Revolation.
I thought it would be interesting to see what peaple think of the book of Revelation and about the type of language it is written in.
It's 1:40 am as I'm typing this if I don't write these dreams down I forget and they come back in bits and pieces.
I'll start with the type of language I believe revolation was written in. (Apocalyptic language)
This was actually a popular type of language used buy many of the old testament prophet's.
I believe John wrote the letter in this cryptic type of language because he was imprisoned on an Island and he was writing to an audience that would have had knowledge of old testament language. It was a letter to the churches writing of the coming of an event very near in the future. The seven churches which were in Asia.
The book of revolation seems very strange to a first time reader. But if you read and learn the language of the old testament writers and search where these strange events come from in the old testament Apocalyptic type of language then it becomes clear. This is fairly long so I'll wait for some replies before I continue my thoughts.
Rich


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Re: Revolation [Re: Giant Sage] #8242654
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I believe the power of the holy spirit helps us to understand. Rich im Not sure what youre asking but have studied revelations and i think its great. Good morning and thx for sharing.. My time this morning is in corinthians .
I was also reading of the seven churches in Asia this morning and it causes me to wonder about my yrs in Asia. He also shows me in bits and pieces sage!!

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Re: Revolation [Re: Giant Sage] #8242693
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Eager to hear about your dream and thoughts on it. There are a bunch of theories on Revelation by guys who are way smarter than me (which isnt hard). I am not certain of any of them, but I love to listen to them and see how it fits amongst my beliefs everywhere else. At the very least, the book is very interesting.

One thing I think is interesting about people saying the Holy Spirit led them to XYZ understanding of something is someone else will tell you that the Holy Spirit led them to ABC that contradicts or doesnt jive at all with XYZ. Not saying this is the case for you, but I know in some instances the Holy Spirit surely couldnt have led two people to completely different conclusions. The prophetic books seem to be bad about drawing that kind of language.

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Hopefully you soon have a revelation on how to spell revelation

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Originally Posted by Pafoxman
Hopefully you soon have a revelation on how to spell revelation



There is always one that just can't help themselves. Guess you would get to burned out correcting all my spelling mistakes and grammatical errors in all of my post. I know if I read the later I'm blown away how bad many are. Some I fix some I leave.

Re: Revolation [Re: Providence Farm] #8242707
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Originally Posted by Pafoxman
Hopefully you soon have a revelation on how to spell revelation



There is always one that just can't help themselves. Guess you would get to burned out correcting all my spelling mistakes and grammatical errors in all of my post. I know if I read the later I'm blown away how bad many are. Some I fix some I leave.

Too....not to
Posts......not post
Latter.....not later

Last edited by Gary Benson; 10/23/24 07:26 AM.

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Re: Revolation [Re: Giant Sage] #8242715
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I think its too easy to form the opinion that todays modern events match "perfectly" to the descriptions of scriptures and specifically to revelations. Many events have strong similarities, no doubt about that. The fear factor kicks in and our minds make a very compelling case. I think the bottom line is to simply believe and be ready when our judgement day comes. I think repetitive reading of Revelations is similar to watching any of the 24hr criminal news networks. Too much will suck you in and have you believing the end is now.


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Re: Revolation [Re: Giant Sage] #8242725
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Make that two Gary. wink lol

Re: Revolation [Re: Randy Wieland] #8242731
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Originally Posted by Randy Wieland
I think its too easy to form the opinion that todays modern events match "perfectly" to the descriptions of scriptures and specifically to revelations. Many events have strong similarities, no doubt about that. The fear factor kicks in and our minds make a very compelling case. I think the bottom line is to simply believe and be ready when our judgement day comes. I think repetitive reading of Revelations is similar to watching any of the 24hr criminal news networks. Too much will suck you in and have you believing the end is now.


Thats right if you believe we will be called up to be with the Lord before the time of tribulation starts. But what if we arent? Wouldnt you like to have an idea of the great deception and how to avoid falling victim to it?

There are some events given in Revelation that I think we are in a posture for even though we as a society have never been in a position for them to be possible.

Ive got my end times bingo card filled out and just waiting to see how things play out.

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Originally Posted by sportsman94
Originally Posted by Randy Wieland
I think its too easy to form the opinion that todays modern events match "perfectly" to the descriptions of scriptures and specifically to revelations. Many events have strong similarities, no doubt about that. The fear factor kicks in and our minds make a very compelling case. I think the bottom line is to simply believe and be ready when our judgement day comes. I think repetitive reading of Revelations is similar to watching any of the 24hr criminal news networks. Too much will suck you in and have you believing the end is now.


Thats right if you believe we will be called up to be with the Lord before the time of tribulation starts. But what if we arent? Wouldnt you like to have an idea of the great deception and how to avoid falling victim to it?

There are some events given in Revelation that I think we are in a posture for even though we as a society have never been in a position for them to be possible.

Ive got my end times bingo card filled out and just waiting to see how things play out.


I don't think the timing matters. Regardless, if you believe, you will be ready to be taken at any time. It shouldn't be a result of connecting the dots for the end of time as we know it.


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Originally Posted by Pafoxman
Hopefully you soon have a revelation on how to spell revelation


Maybe he's talking about revolution.

Re: Revolation [Re: Randy Wieland] #8242769
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[/quote]I don't think the timing matters. Regardless, if you believe, you will be ready to be taken at any time. It shouldn't be a result of connecting the dots for the end of time as we know it.[/quote]

If you dont read Revelation and believe in pre trib rapture, but it turns out its post trib and you have received the mark of the beast would it matter then? What about the great deception thats coming where even the elect will be deceived if possible? I dont want to fall into that category of being deceived by the great deception, so I will keep reading the prophetic books and trying to line them up with possible scenarios in todays time.

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Great post Randy.....and sportsman

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Re: Revolation [Re: Giant Sage] #8242776
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Heres what I think and im no scholar. In reply to someones question...I believe we are so many different kinds of people,minds etc. The question was about why the holy spirit interpretation is many...I believe our God is a loving God...and he allows us for imperfections and misunderstandings as he can read our hearts. Also we want to be sure our understandings of what we believe the holy spirit is telling us align with Gods word.

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Originally Posted by west river rogue
I believe the power of the holy spirit helps us to understand. Rich im Not sure what youre asking but have studied revelations and i think its great. Good morning and thx for sharing.. My time this morning is in corinthians .
I was also reading of the seven churches in Asia this morning and it causes me to wonder about my yrs in Asia. He also shows me in bits and pieces sage!!

West,
The question I had was about where the language of Revelation comes from.
And how it can help to interpret what the author is saying.

One of the things that came to me was the flood coming after the woman in revelation 12. And where it says there will be no more sea.
I've understood this flood being an army, but util tonight I hadn't put the parting of the red sea and the Egyptian army being swallowed up together as a precursor to revelation 12 were it say the earth will swallow it up.
The woman in revelation is obviously being persecuted.
The earth swallowing the flood is the interesting part.
This is one part I'm stuck on, I do believe that when there is great persecution against God fearing peaple that God will ultimately prevail.

No more sea. Sea has often been used as an example of power and being at the mercy of God.
Jonah and Jesus both slept on a boat during a tempest. And both calmed the sea.
Well actually in the case of Jonah God calmed the sea and of course in the case of Jesus also.
Have to go do chores but I will return with the other part of my dream.


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Originally Posted by west river rogue
Heres what I think and im no scholar. In reply to someones question...I believe we are so many different kinds of people,minds etc. The question was about why the holy spirit interpretation is many...I believe our God is a loving God...and he allows us for imperfections and misunderstandings as he can read our hearts. Also we want to be sure our understandings of what we believe the holy spirit is telling us align with Gods word.

Amen to that west.


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God spoke to me and I did what he said to do. It was and was not biblical - his part was biblical - my part was not. I guess you could also say Holy vs Un-holy. Now my life is totally different and much better and I am at peace about all of it. The whole process changed me. When I was going through it life was very strange but I trusted him and now I think I know his plan for me. People I know said I was crazy and I needed to see a doctor. Some do not talk to me anymore. I didn't listen to them - I listened to the Holy Spirit and read my Bible. Good wants us to be happy. He wants us to follow him. Pray and test things against scripture and as Jesus said all will be revealed. I have faith in what he said. He has never let me down. His ways are not our ways.

Waiting to hear about your dream.


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Originally Posted by Larry Baer
God spoke to me and I did what he said to do. It was and was not biblical - his part was biblical - my part was not. I guess you could also say Holy vs Un-holy. Now my life is totally different and much better and I am at peace about all of it. The whole process changed me. When I was going through it life was very strange but I trusted him and now I think I know his plan for me. People I know said I was crazy and I needed to see a doctor. Some do not talk to me anymore. I didn't listen to them - I listened to the Holy Spirit and read my Bible. Good wants us to be happy. He wants us to follow him. Pray and test things against scripture and as Jesus said all will be revealed. I have faith in what he said. He has never let me down. His ways are not our ways.

Waiting to hear about your dream.

The part about the flood that I posted earlier was part of my dream.
The other part is about the stars will no longer show there light. Revelation 8:12.
There is an old testament dream that Joseph had.
In his dream Jacob says will the sun and the moon and the stars make reverence to you.
Joseph's dream was basically saying that his brethren would bow to him one day.
Also in the olivet discourse it speaks of the stars falling from reaven.
Many believe this is a future event. This is not my understanding.
I beleave Johns Revelation is his version of the Olivete discourse on steroids so to speak.
I believe this is speaking of the fall of the old covenant .
The stars of heaven taking reverence to our lord and Savior.
It's about a new covenant.
Just as Jesus is the redeemer of those who have faith. Joseph was the Savior of his brethren in the end.
After they had thrown him into a pit. He was even sold for 20 pieces of silver just as Christ was sold for 30 pieces of silver.
My understanding of Revolation through the language the author was using and the peaple he was writing the letter to leads me to believe that most of the Revelation has been fulfilled.
With the exception of the catching up of the saints and the final throne judgment.
This is my belief, I do respect other people's beliefs as long an they align with scripture.
This covers all that was in my dream. Thanks for the replies. And thanks for the reminder that my spelling isn't my greatest gift. smile


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I believe were are currently living in the Church Age. Most Christian denominations believe that Jesus will one day return as is said in the book of Acts. When that happens the Church Age will end. With what's been happening in the world today as was predicted in the Olivet Discourse, that day is not that far off.


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Originally Posted by Giant Sage
Originally Posted by west river rogue
I believe the power of the holy spirit helps us to understand. Rich im Not sure what youre asking but have studied revelations and i think its great. Good morning and thx for sharing.. My time this morning is in corinthians .
I was also reading of the seven churches in Asia this morning and it causes me to wonder about my yrs in Asia. He also shows me in bits and pieces sage!!

West,
The question I had was about where the language of Revelation comes from.
And how it can help to interpret what the author is saying.

One of the things that came to me was the flood coming after the woman in revelation 12. And where it says there will be no more sea.
I've understood this flood being an army, but util tonight I hadn't put the parting of the red sea and the Egyptian army being swallowed up together as a precursor to revelation 12 were it say the earth will swallow it up.
The woman in revelation is obviously being persecuted.
The earth swallowing the flood is the interesting part.
This is one part I'm stuck on, I do believe that when there is great persecution against God fearing peaple that God will ultimately prevail.

No more sea. Sea has often been used as an example of power and being at the mercy of God.
Jonah and Jesus both slept on a boat during a tempest. And both calmed the sea.
Well actually in the case of Jonah God calmed the sea and of course in the case of Jesus also.
Have to go do chores but I will return with the other part of my dream.


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