Re: Skinning,fleshing and stretching a muskrat
[Re: Bruce T]
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10/30/24 03:09 PM
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Very nice. I've never seen anyone use a beaver knife for fleshing rats. But I see it works great for you. I like the nail on the end of the table for opening cuts. Thanks for posting
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Re: Skinning,fleshing and stretching a muskrat
[Re: Bruce T]
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10/30/24 03:37 PM
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Nice! Instead of the nail, I have a big spring clamp. Works great unless the leg is broken
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Re: Skinning,fleshing and stretching a muskrat
[Re: Bruce T]
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10/31/24 04:49 AM
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Interesting never thought of doing it on the stretcher,,,,,, Nioce,,,,,,
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Re: Skinning,fleshing and stretching a muskrat
[Re: Bruce T]
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10/31/24 07:43 AM
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I was with a fur buyer for several years and he too would say you over fleshed it, there is no saddle meat. He would discount you a bit.......jk
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Re: Skinning,fleshing and stretching a muskrat
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10/31/24 08:31 AM
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In todays market get all the fat off the skin or it will grease burn in your freezer waiting for the market to come back.
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Re: Skinning,fleshing and stretching a muskrat
[Re: Bruce T]
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10/31/24 11:48 AM
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LOL.
In my opinion most trappers over dry their fur. 2 days max for me or once the nose dries then they are off the boards. They don't go in the freezer they get packed In cardboard boxes till the buyer shows up.
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Re: Skinning,fleshing and stretching a muskrat
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10/31/24 04:35 PM
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Only took the fat off.Saddle is still on it
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Re: Skinning,fleshing and stretching a muskrat
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10/31/24 04:42 PM
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Nice, One time I saw a tip to hold the feet. Screw 2 drywall screws in the edge of the counter close to the edge about 5/8'' apart. Put the foot in between them and pull on the tail to make your cut then flip the rat over and do it again.
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Re: Skinning,fleshing and stretching a muskrat
[Re: Bruce T]
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10/31/24 10:25 PM
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A pair of vice grips attached to your bench is what I use. Clamp the tail and skin the rat without ever removing It till you're done. The skin will absorb the fat as It dries. Removing all the fat and over drying will thin the hide and you will have what we call a paper rat. Rats are also graded by weight.
My trapper partner and I caught 2,500 rats one spring. These rats where caught In ND. ND rats are graded central because of their thin leather. I left all the fat on those rats and dried them for 2 days. When i dropped off those rats at NAFA the agent knew where I caught those rats. When all those rats were graded, they all graded eastern. The agent called me and asked how I put up those rats. I hear where trappers are leaving their rats on the forms for 5 or more days. That In my opinion is just wrong.
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Re: Skinning,fleshing and stretching a muskrat
[Re: Bruce T]
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11/01/24 03:21 AM
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Beav, you say leaving them on forms for 5 or more days is wrong. What's the difference if on the form or in your cardboard box. I can see the freezer as it stops the fat from drying but don't they continue drying in the box? Serious question
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Re: Skinning,fleshing and stretching a muskrat
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11/01/24 05:55 AM
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A pair of vice grips attached to your bench is what I use. Clamp the tail and skin the rat without ever removing It till you're done. The skin will absorb the fat as It dries. Removing all the fat and over drying will thin the hide and you will have what we call a paper rat. Rats are also graded by weight.
My trapper partner and I caught 2,500 rats one spring. These rats where caught In ND. ND rats are graded central because of their thin leather. I left all the fat on those rats and dried them for 2 days. When i dropped off those rats at NAFA the agent knew where I caught those rats. When all those rats were graded, they all graded eastern. The agent called me and asked how I put up those rats. I hear where trappers are leaving their rats on the forms for 5 or more days. That In my opinion is just wrong. Interesting
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Re: Skinning,fleshing and stretching a muskrat
[Re: Bruce T]
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11/01/24 08:57 AM
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What you have when stretching hides on forms is 2 opposing forces as the hide dries and that will thin the hide as It dries. Wire forms are really bad because the wire acts as a spring forcing against the hide. So getting the hides off the forms Is going to help you out on the grade.
Leaving most of the fat on the hide will be absorbed into the leather. After a few days off the forms that fat will be just about totally absorbed. That absorbed fat actually keeps the hide from drying out. And once In the boxes there's no air getting to those hides.
I'll try and get some before and after pictures.
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Re: Skinning,fleshing and stretching a muskrat
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11/01/24 10:51 AM
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I catch very few rats. A couple dozen per year just for marten bait. However, I do salvage the hides. Get 'em off those worthless wire stretchers and on to wooden boards. Dry much better and you can pin out the skirts for a better grade. Just my opinion after selling at NAFA or at FHA for many years.
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Re: Skinning,fleshing and stretching a muskrat
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11/01/24 12:56 PM
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Well, the ADC rat count Is at 92. That's $920.00 I need 8 more on tomorrows last check to break that $1000.00 mark. Got one nice buck mink and two medium sized snappers in 160s. Released the two snappers and they were good to go. I'm hoping to get a $2.00 nose count on the rats when I sell them. Some of those rats will streach at 19" on the boards. With the $500.00 and the two $300.00 sets fees I'm In rat heaven. Life Is good.
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Re: Skinning,fleshing and stretching a muskrat
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11/01/24 01:02 PM
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Thanks for the explanation Beav
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Re: Skinning,fleshing and stretching a muskrat
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11/01/24 01:32 PM
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Always enjoyed catching a few muskrats.Have never had any complaints from the local fur dealers.Around here most fur dealers buy by the nose count.I also now have some marten and fisher bait.
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