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Cutting the fat #8256772
11/07/24 09:59 PM
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Central Oregon
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Elon gonna use a chain saw .....and get it done


What say you ?


The Vink for chief moderator....night shift ...11pm- 5am best coast time zone.....Free Marty


Re: Cutting the fat [Re: AntiGov] #8256779
11/07/24 10:02 PM
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I am hopefull


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Re: Cutting the fat [Re: AntiGov] #8256791
11/07/24 10:16 PM
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Central Oregon
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I'm am too

He says 100's of government agencies need eliminated


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Re: Cutting the fat [Re: AntiGov] #8256793
11/07/24 10:16 PM
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He was fairly swift cuttin the fat at X back when he first bought Twitter so I am hopeful too


�What�s good for me may not be good for the weak minded.�
Captain Gus McCrae- Texas Rangers


Re: Cutting the fat [Re: AntiGov] #8256811
11/07/24 10:31 PM
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RFK says the FDA is taking a hit. They have killed more people then Hitler, with the stuff they allow in our food and drugs.


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Re: Cutting the fat [Re: AntiGov] #8256821
11/07/24 10:40 PM
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Elon has has 8 recent attempts on his life. In the Rogan interview he said he was going to have to add even more security.

Keith

Re: Cutting the fat [Re: AntiGov] #8256874
11/08/24 12:06 AM
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I have a great plan to cut much of the IRS


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Re: Cutting the fat [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #8256897
11/08/24 03:39 AM
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Might be tough firing public employees. They have laws that protect them. More than the regular Joe's.

Re: Cutting the fat [Re: AntiGov] #8256911
11/08/24 06:02 AM
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Gonna be a lot of people soon realizing what a real job is. lol


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Re: Cutting the fat [Re: AntiGov] #8256927
11/08/24 07:14 AM
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Ditch the chainsaw, use a feller buncher with a hotsaw.

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Re: Cutting the fat [Re: dakidsmn] #8256930
11/08/24 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by dakidsmn
Might be tough firing public employees. They have laws that protect them. More than the regular Joe's.

A simple slashing of budget, all the laws won't matter if a federal agency has no money for payroll.


you're only allowed so many sunrises... I aim to see every one of them!
Re: Cutting the fat [Re: Feedinggrounds] #8256970
11/08/24 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Feedinggrounds
Originally Posted by dakidsmn
Might be tough firing public employees. They have laws that protect them. More than the regular Joe's.

A simple slashing of budget, all the laws won't matter if a federal agency has no money for payroll.


They aren't technically "Fired". It is called a RIF (Reduction in Force) and it gets downright bloodthirsty who gets to stay employed and where. It all comes down to seniority and past performance. You may end up keeping a job but you may need to take your buddies job to do it. That job may be 200 miles away too. They get very ugly and nasty.


I have nothing clever to put here.





Re: Cutting the fat [Re: AntiGov] #8257178
11/08/24 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 160user
They aren't technically "Fired". It is called a RIF (Reduction in Force) and it gets downright bloodthirsty who gets to stay employed and where. It all comes down to seniority and past performance. You may end up keeping a job but you may need to take your buddies job to do it. That job may be 200 miles away too. They get very ugly and nasty.



As a Federal Employee I've seen this firsthand. We went through this with Obama and Trump. Obama went to "mission critical" staffing and refused to give us a pay raise for 3 years. Trump outright cut our compliment of staff, even though we were already short staffed. Basically, Reduction through attrition. They both were a big hit to staff morale. Many folks had worked hard to earn their stripes to promote, only to see the job they want get cut when a guy that currently held the position retired. When Trump cut our compliment by over 20% it was easier to say our institution was Fully Staffed or Over Staffed vs needing 30 bodies overnight. In the end, short staffing got some people killed in my field of work. Now, we have been hiring whoever we can get to fill our compliment because we are further short staffed than we were. We have adjusted to doing more with less because we HAVE to, doesn't matter we have lost 40+ jobs in the last few years. The problem now lies with the salary, we are paid 25-30% below state. Hard to compete for qualified individuals with pay like that. Some of us are too close to retirement to start over.

I agree some agencies are bloated, while others are not. I would like to see a more efficiently run agency, one that doesn't hemorrhage money. Do away with mandatory selections for contracts from minority, small, or vet owned businesses and go with the best option for the TAXPAYER and efficiency. It's crazy to see us overpay a small business to do the job a larger company could have done cheaper, better, and faster. Do away with mandatory government contracts, where we have to buy necessary items at inflated prices and allow agencies to purchase items locally or online which are often less expensive. Example: everyday standard office chair for $700-800 each via contract vs local staples has the same chair for less than 1/3 the price. Light bulbs for $50-60 each vs Walmart has them for a few bucks each. That alone across the FED would reduce expenditures exponentially. But we can't have that because some politician won't get his kick-back.

Re: Cutting the fat [Re: AntiGov] #8257195
11/08/24 01:01 PM
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Are guberment trappers on that hit list?

Re: Cutting the fat [Re: AntiGov] #8257239
11/08/24 01:57 PM
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As a fed I agree that there is a lot of fat to trim and waste in the government spending , most tables of org look like v instead of ^ when looking at the numbers of workers and managers. I watched the swap slow walk everything Trump did last time and have heard the planning to ensure Trump can't undo slow Joe's screw ups. In my org the state level directors and up need to be moved around or out , there are so many support staff that they out number actual workers by at least 3 to 1. Then the field staff are way under paid and doing 2x the work because they can't fill jobs or afford to live in certain areas, I'd be curious to see in a agency the break down of managers, support staff, field and the numbers that are tied to DC and not producing actual results for the public

Re: Cutting the fat [Re: pintail_drake04] #8257242
11/08/24 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by pintail_drake04

I agree some agencies are bloated, while others are not. I would like to see a more efficiently run agency, one that doesn't hemorrhage money. Do away with mandatory selections for contracts from minority, small, or vet owned businesses and go with the best option for the TAXPAYER and efficiency. It's crazy to see us overpay a small business to do the job a larger company could have done cheaper, better, and faster. Do away with mandatory government contracts, where we have to buy necessary items at inflated prices and allow agencies to purchase items locally or online which are often less expensive. Example: everyday standard office chair for $700-800 each via contract vs local staples has the same chair for less than 1/3 the price. Light bulbs for $50-60 each vs Walmart has them for a few bucks each. That alone across the FED would reduce expenditures exponentially. But we can't have that because some politician won't get his kick-back.


100% agree with this

Re: Cutting the fat [Re: AntiGov] #8257259
11/08/24 02:17 PM
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Georgia
Maybe theyll offer me an early retirement package even though I have 27 years left before I can retire. Elon did mention that he would entertain big severance packages equating to a year or two worth of salary for the ones he is cutting

Re: Cutting the fat [Re: AntiGov] #8257335
11/08/24 03:58 PM
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Like some have said, Reduction in Force.... The wife has used that serval times in her career in the military, those would be civilians.

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