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Re: "Primitive" gun
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11/13/24 09:53 AM
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well Remington and Henry teamed up to fit this almost to a T https://www.henryusa.com/rifles/single-shot-rifle/360 buck hammer it is basically a modernized 35rem since that stuff is hard to come by the 360 buck hammer is one of those cartridges that was purpose built to fill the primitive part of many states game laws if you didn't add , to 200 yards 44mag or several others could have filled the slot , but many of them with lower recoil just won't get to 200 well.
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Re: "Primitive" gun
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11/13/24 10:10 AM
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You need to choose. 200 yard capable or low recoil. Of course low recoil is different to different folks. What is her idea of low recoil?
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Re: "Primitive" gun
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11/13/24 10:51 AM
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You need to choose. 200 yard capable or low recoil. Of course low recoil is different to different folks. What is her idea of low recoil? It doesn't have to be low recoil, just want the minimum amount of recoil to reach 200.
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Re: "Primitive" gun
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11/13/24 12:48 PM
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44mag will get you to 125 or so with minimal recoil , easy ammo availability , easy availability of guns.
I ran some 200gr xtp over the chrono and coming in right at 2k fps average from my 18 inch barrel rifle ruger carbine that would not qualify for primitive but gets data.
the xtp has a bc of .170
running some numbers if you have an optic that is 2 inches above center of bore a common height. working on the 2 high through 2 low is close enough you are zero at 25 yards 2 inches high at 75 and 100, then 1 low at 150 4 low at 175 and 8 low at 200
that gets you 0-160 in the 2 up 2 down range and that will cover a Lot of deer hunting
America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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Re: "Primitive" gun
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11/13/24 01:57 PM
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Didn't say anything about straight walled cartridge unless I missed it it did not and a 358win would work well to fit , except that I don't know of anyone making one in a single shot and ammo is harder to find with a bunch of states requiring strait wall , manufacturers try and hit both strait wall and primitive with one round like 360 buckhammer
America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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Re: "Primitive" gun
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11/13/24 02:03 PM
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44mag will get you to 125 or so with minimal recoil , easy ammo availability , easy availability of guns.
I ran some 200gr xtp over the chrono and coming in right at 2k fps average from my 18 inch barrel rifle ruger carbine that would not qualify for primitive but gets data.
the xtp has a bc of .170
running some numbers if you have an optic that is 2 inches above center of bore a common height. working on the 2 high through 2 low is close enough you are zero at 25 yards 2 inches high at 75 and 100, then 1 low at 150 4 low at 175 and 8 low at 200
that gets you 0-160 in the 2 up 2 down range and that will cover a Lot of deer hunting
That works, dialing isn't an issue if needed
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Re: "Primitive" gun
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11/13/24 02:10 PM
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If its like most hunting now a days as in drive up to a blind and have a rest to shoot from, get her a single shot in 35rem up to 35 whelen and add some lead to it. That calms them right down as far as "kick".
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Re: "Primitive" gun
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11/13/24 03:24 PM
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I don't think a Ruger #1 would qualify. The way I read it the gun has to have an exposed hammer. As a matter of fact, I don't think muzzle loaders would qualify the way the rule is written. It has to be a true muzzleloader or meet this reg
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Re: "Primitive" gun
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11/13/24 04:10 PM
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I would consider a 45-70 in an H&R single shot or something similar. They also make it in a 38-55. My H&R Buffalo Classic is very tame to shoot with 300 GR HP. 405's aren't a lot of fun though.
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