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How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!! #8274646
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HAHAHAHAH!!!! Way to blow it Raiders! Easy win for the 11-1 Chiefs.

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Raider ball this year.


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Took the Raiders +13.5....Nessy wins Money !!!!!!!!!


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It’s that swoofty phenomenon. He He He.

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Originally Posted by Nessmuck
Took the Raiders +13.5....Nessy wins Money !!!!!!!!!


Good deal. That was a suckers bet, you couldn't lose. The Chiefs always let it be close, toying with their opponents, who never even had a chance.

Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!! [Re: ~ADC~] #8274663
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LOL


We have met the enemy and the enemy is us!
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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
Originally Posted by Nessmuck
Took the Raiders +13.5....Nessy wins Money !!!!!!!!!


Good deal. That was a suckers bet, you couldn't lose. The Chiefs always let it be close, toying with their opponents, who never even had a chance.

Keep right on braggin grin


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We have met the enemy and the enemy is us!
Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!! [Re: WhiteTrash 88] #8274672
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Originally Posted by WhiteTrash 88
It’s that swoofty phenomenon. He He He.


[Linked Image]

Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!! [Re: ~ADC~] #8274688
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I don't think the Chiefs could play that poorly on purpose. Rigged game as some have said.


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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
Originally Posted by WhiteTrash 88
It’s that swoofty phenomenon. He He He.


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She sure is purdy..


Life ain't supposed to be easy.
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As Tyrel said to his brother Orrin in the western the Sacketts.....a little narrow between the eyes grin


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Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!! [Re: ~ADC~] #8274721
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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
Originally Posted by Nessmuck
Took the Raiders +13.5....Nessy wins Money !!!!!!!!!


Good deal. That was a suckers bet, you couldn't lose. The Chiefs always let it be close, toying with their opponents, who never even had a chance.

Except the last time they rolled into Lambeau.....I was there. Lol. 27-19 Packers.


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Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!! [Re: ~ADC~] #8274722
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Super bowl 1. Who defeated the Chefs? ......who? Oh yeah. The Pack!!!


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Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!! [Re: ~ADC~] #8274740
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The 3rd place NFC team, behind the Vikings, the lowly Packers have a record of 5-8-1 versus the 11-1 Chiefs, all-time, but nobody cares. laugh

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BTW The first in AFC team, the Chiefs are already guaranteed to be in the playoffs. grin


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Has there been a worse 11-1 team in NFL history?


Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!! [Re: Michigander] #8274786
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Originally Posted by Michigander
Has there been a worse 11-1 team in NFL history?

The Lions? lol They probably won't even beat the Packers their next game, it's getting down to choke time for them. grin

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I am a Bills fan. Nuff said!

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Originally Posted by trappingthomas
I am a Bills fan. Nuff said!


I wouldn't say anymore either. How embarrassing. lol ... Speaking of choke time. laugh

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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
Originally Posted by trappingthomas
I am a Bills fan. Nuff said!


I wouldn't say anymore either. How embarrassing. lol ... Speaking of choke time. laugh

Four years in row. Hard to argue!

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But the undefeated Dolphins team are sitting easy right now.

Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!! [Re: Michigander] #8274907
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Originally Posted by Michigander
Has there been a worse 11-1 team in NFL history?

Only thing that matters...Nuther dub!


Act like a blank, get treated like a blank. Insert your own blank!
Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!! [Re: trappingthomas] #8274991
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Originally Posted by trappingthomas
But the undefeated Dolphins team are sitting easy right now.

Huh? Undefeated?

Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!! [Re: martentrapper] #8275092
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Originally Posted by martentrapper
Originally Posted by trappingthomas
But the undefeated Dolphins team are sitting easy right now.

Huh? Undefeated?

The 1972 Miami team is the only team in history to go undefeated. Every year since, the remaining players of that team celebrate when the the last undefeated team gets their first loss of the year, preserving their record in history.


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The 1972 Miami team is the only team in history to go undefeated. Every year since, the remaining players of that team celebrate when the the last undefeated team gets their first loss of the year, preserving their record in history.[/quote]

Yep

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The Chiefs are winning their last few games by only a couple of points to some rather poor teams. Are they just coasting waiting for the playoffs, or are they playing that poor lately?


To pay back $20 million campaign debt, Kamala Harris has agreed to fight Jake Paul.
Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!! [Re: ~ADC~] #8275192
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Had to rely on a fumble to beat a 2 win team. I’d not start popping any super bowl corks just yet. Based on record of opponents they have one of the easiest schedules so far.
Poor play These games chiefs didn’t win them. The other teams lost them. Chiefs only win because teams made a mistake to lose it
Won’t make it to afc championship game playing like this

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Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!! [Re: ~ADC~] #8275215
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Another thing I'd like to point out. The first fumble, his knee was most definitely down but they called it a fumble. This was against the Raider's so i ain't being biased but that was a terrible call.


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Nfl is about money people.


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Lol saw the ad for that.


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Monday morning quarterbacks are out in full force this morning even if it's Saturday. grin

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Hey ADC you do KNOW that the refs won that game correct. If they had called false start instead of illegal shift 5 yard penalty. Raiders keep the ball. 32 yard field goal Chefs lose.


All the talk on espn and foxs sports. Mahomey and trailer swift gifts.

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Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Hey ADC you do KNOW that the refs won that game correct. If they had called false start instead of illegal shift 5 yard penalty. Raiders keep the ball. 32 yard field goal Chefs lose.


All the talk on espn and foxs sports. Mahomey and trailer swift gifts.

And if the wind would have been from the northwest at 14.3 mph Mahomes would have thrown an interception and lost the game. whistle

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Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Hey ADC you do KNOW that the refs won that game correct. If they had called false start instead of illegal shift 5 yard penalty. Raiders keep the ball. 32 yard field goal Chefs lose.


All the talk on espn and foxs sports. Mahomey and trailer swift gifts.

[Linked Image]

... you had to know that was coming. lol

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Originally Posted by trapdog1
Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Hey ADC you do KNOW that the refs won that game correct. If they had called false start instead of illegal shift 5 yard penalty. Raiders keep the ball. 32 yard field goal Chefs lose.


All the talk on espn and foxs sports. Mahomey and trailer swift gifts.

And if the wind would have been from the northwest at 14.3 mph Mahomes would have thrown an interception and lost the game. whistle


Dad used to say, "and if the dog hadn't stopped to poop, he'd of caught the rabbit." laugh

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Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Hey ADC you do KNOW that the refs won that game correct. If they had called false start instead of illegal shift 5 yard penalty. Raiders keep the ball. 32 yard field goal Chefs lose.


All the talk on espn and foxs sports. Mahomey and trailer swift gifts.

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It was the correct call by the books...


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Go get em' PF10. Your google skills are excellent. grin

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The chiefs really aren't the team they've been the last two years ~ and quite frankly, didn't deserve the win.
As a former high school and Arena football official, the illegal shift penalty call was incorrect and it should have been a false-start penalty.
Raiders should have kept the ball, might have kicked the FG successfully & been victorious . . .

This is why there is so much talk about the true legitimacy of the officials calling the game and whether officials actually favor one team over the other.
There have been to many incidents this year not to suspect foul play by the officials in some of the penalty calling.


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Chiefs suck and so does the NFL.

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Total QBR - All NFL
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1

Lamar Jackson
BAL
2

Joe Burrow
CIN
3

Josh Allen
BUF
4

Kyler Murray
ARI
5

Brock Purdy
SF
6

Jayden Daniels
WSH
7

Jameis Winston
CLE
8

Patrick Mahomes
KC
9

Jalen Hurts
PHI
10

Matthew Stafford
LAR
11

Trevor Lawrence
JAX
12

Derek Carr
NO
13

Jordan Love
GB
14

Tua Tagovailoa
MIA
15

Sam Darnold
MIN
16

Baker Mayfield
TB
17

Jared Goff
DET
18

Justin Herbert
LAC
19

Drake Maye
NE
20

Kirk Cousins
ATL
21

Bo Nix
DEN
22

Geno Smith
SEA
23

Justin Fields
PIT
24

C.J. Stroud
HOU
25

Aaron Rodgers
NYJ
26

Caleb Williams
CHI
27

Daniel Jones
MIN
28

Dak Prescott
DAL
29

Anthony Richardson
IND
30

Gardner Minshew
LV
31

Will Levis
TEN
32

Bryce Young
CAR
33

Deshaun Watson
CLE
QBR PAA PLAYS EPA PASS RUN SACK PEN RAW
75.9 41.5 482 79.9 65.4 13.4 -6.9 1.2 77.2
75.6 41.4 481 79.7 69.5 9.0 -11.3 1.2 77.2
73.0 31.1 450 65.8 46.0 18.3 -5.1 1.5 72.7
72.3 22.9 398 51.7 38.4 12.0 -8.3 1.3 69.3
67.7 21.8 397 53.3 40.5 11.7 -7.6 1.1 68.5
66.7 25.9 476 61.6 35.9 22.8 -11.1 2.8 68.3
66.7 9.4 220 24.8 20.1 5.4 -3.9 -0.7 64.7
64.6 27.0 520 71.7 50.1 19.0 -13.6 2.6 67.6
63.9 21.6 438 56.6 33.4 23.0 -12.1 0.2 66.7
62.3 11.3 447 47.0 41.0 0.8 -10.3 5.2 58.8
61.8 8.5 339 33.7 24.8 6.9 -7.7 2.0 58.8
61.6 12.7 248 32.3 30.1 1.2 -2.5 1.0 67.4
60.7 8.1 361 33.9 27.9 2.1 -4.5 3.9 57.9
60.2 13.0 329 36.9 30.9 4.6 -8.3 1.4 63.7
59.3 10.0 434 44.9 35.8 4.7 -12.2 4.4 58.1
59.1 13.9 465 47.7 36.8 9.5 -10.7 1.5 60.4
58.2 9.0 396 39.2 37.5 1.8 -9.2 -0.1 58.0
58.0 11.7 396 42.2 36.0 5.5 -9.4 0.7 60.3
57.5 5.8 311 27.1 14.5 12.9 -7.5 -0.2 56.6
56.8 8.7 414 43.5 47.1 -5.6 -8.9 1.9 57.4
55.9 10.6 501 47.6 33.6 13.2 -7.8 0.8 57.4
54.4 9.5 525 50.4 42.1 5.7 -15.4 2.6 56.3
51.8 1.6 251 22.6 13.8 8.1 -7.0 0.7 52.2
51.4 1.6 507 43.6 40.5 0.5 -17.1 2.6 51.1
51.4 -1.7 444 34.9 30.7 1.6 -12.2 2.6 48.6
50.5 -0.2 566 45.4 28.4 13.7 -20.5 3.2 49.9
46.4 -3.6 459 34.5 26.5 5.5 -12.0 2.5 47.2
46.3 -4.9 351 22.3 19.7 2.4 -6.9 0.2 45.1
45.7 -7.6 268 15.1 6.6 9.6 -5.0 -1.1 40.2
38.2 -14.5 371 17.0 12.4 1.0 -12.1 3.6 36.6
36.4 -16.5 299 9.1 6.6 2.6 -13.4 -0.1 31.4
35.7 -11.2 239 7.4 5.3 2.9 -4.8 -0.8 34.0
22.5 -23.1 299 3.0 1.7 1.5 -13.8 -0.2 25.1
Season Leaders: To qualify, a player must play a minimum of 20 action plays per team game
How is Total QBR calculated?
Glossary
QBR:Adjusted Total Quarterback Rating, which values the quarterback on all play types on a 0-100 scale adjusted for the strength of opposing defenses faced.
PAA:Number of points contributed by a quarterback, accounting for QBR and how much he plays, above the level of an average quarterback.
PLAYS:Plays on which the QB has a non-zero expected points contribution. Includes most plays that are not handoffs.
EPA:Total expected points added with low leverage plays, according to ESPN Win Probability model, down-weighted.
PASS:Expected points added on pass attempts with low leverage plays down-weighted.
RUN:Clutch-weighted expected points added through rushes
SACK:Expected points added on sacks with low leverage plays down-weighted.
PEN:Expected points added on penalties with low leverage plays down-weighted.
RAW:Raw Total Quarterback Rating, which values quarterback on all play types on a 0-100 scale (not adjusted for opposing defenses faced)


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Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!! [Re: Mt_FreeTrapper] #8275411
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Originally Posted by Mt_FreeTrapper
The chiefs really aren't the team they've been the last two years ~ and quite frankly, didn't deserve the win.
As a former high school and Arena football official, the illegal shift penalty call was incorrect and it should have been a false-start penalty.
Raiders should have kept the ball, might have kicked the FG successfully & been victorious . . .

This is why there is so much talk about the true legitimacy of the officials calling the game and whether officials actually favor one team over the other.
There have been to many incidents this year not to suspect foul play by the officials in some of the penalty calling.

So you disagree with pofarmer post above and whether or not the clock was running?

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As Tyrel said to his brother Orrin in the western the Sacketts.....a little narrow between the eyes grin

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That's a funny one !!

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Originally Posted by Mt_FreeTrapper
The chiefs really aren't the team they've been the last two years ~ and quite frankly, didn't deserve the win.
As a former high school and Arena football official, the illegal shift penalty call was incorrect and it should have been a false-start penalty.
Raiders should have kept the ball, might have kicked the FG successfully & been victorious . . .

This is why there is so much talk about the true legitimacy of the officials calling the game and whether officials actually favor one team over the other.
There have been to many incidents this year not to suspect foul play by the officials in some of the penalty calling.

Well you have to prebait to keep the big gamblers betting


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Originally Posted by martentrapper
Originally Posted by Mt_FreeTrapper
The chiefs really aren't the team they've been the last two years ~ and quite frankly, didn't deserve the win.
As a former high school and Arena football official, the illegal shift penalty call was incorrect and it should have been a false-start penalty.
Raiders should have kept the ball, might have kicked the FG successfully & been victorious . . .

This is why there is so much talk about the true legitimacy of the officials calling the game and whether officials actually favor one team over the other.
There have been to many incidents this year not to suspect foul play by the officials in some of the penalty calling.

So you disagree with pofarmer post above and whether or not the clock was running?


Yes, in football, after a ball is spiked which typically stops the clock, the clock will restart on the "ready" signal from the referee so the clock should have been running.


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Well, there is that also ~ 2 biggest businesses are the NFL & gambling


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Evidently...the Chiefs suck at cheating....so they have the refs do it for them ...

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Evidently...the Chiefs suck at cheating....so they have the refs do it for them ...

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Originally Posted by Mt_FreeTrapper


Yes, in football, after a ball is spiked which typically stops the clock, the clock will restart on the "ready" signal from the referee so the clock should have been running.

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Originally Posted by Pofarmer10

Originally Posted by Mt_FreeTrapper


Yes, in football, after a ball is spiked which typically stops the clock, the clock will restart on the "ready" signal from the referee so the clock should have been running.

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The Raiders fumbled away a good opportunity all right. But, not as bad as the coach did in the Bears-Lions game. Afterwards, he insisted he made the right call.


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