Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!!
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Took the Raiders +13.5....Nessy wins Money !!!!!!!!!
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Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!!
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Took the Raiders +13.5....Nessy wins Money !!!!!!!!! Good deal. That was a suckers bet, you couldn't lose. The Chiefs always let it be close, toying with their opponents, who never even had a chance.
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Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!!
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Took the Raiders +13.5....Nessy wins Money !!!!!!!!! Good deal. That was a suckers bet, you couldn't lose. The Chiefs always let it be close, toying with their opponents, who never even had a chance. Keep right on braggin
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Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!!
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I don't think the Chiefs could play that poorly on purpose. Rigged game as some have said.
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Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!!
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It’s that swoofty phenomenon. He He He. She sure is purdy..
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Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!!
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Took the Raiders +13.5....Nessy wins Money !!!!!!!!! Good deal. That was a suckers bet, you couldn't lose. The Chiefs always let it be close, toying with their opponents, who never even had a chance. Except the last time they rolled into Lambeau.....I was there. Lol. 27-19 Packers.
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Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!!
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Super bowl 1. Who defeated the Chefs? ......who? Oh yeah. The Pack!!!
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Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!!
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Has there been a worse 11-1 team in NFL history?
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Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!!
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I am a Bills fan. Nuff said! I wouldn't say anymore either. How embarrassing. lol ... Speaking of choke time. Four years in row. Hard to argue!
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Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!!
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Has there been a worse 11-1 team in NFL history? Only thing that matters...Nuther dub!
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Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!!
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But the undefeated Dolphins team are sitting easy right now. Huh? Undefeated? The 1972 Miami team is the only team in history to go undefeated. Every year since, the remaining players of that team celebrate when the the last undefeated team gets their first loss of the year, preserving their record in history.
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Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!!
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The Chiefs are winning their last few games by only a couple of points to some rather poor teams. Are they just coasting waiting for the playoffs, or are they playing that poor lately?
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Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!!
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Had to rely on a fumble to beat a 2 win team. I’d not start popping any super bowl corks just yet. Based on record of opponents they have one of the easiest schedules so far. Poor play These games chiefs didn’t win them. The other teams lost them. Chiefs only win because teams made a mistake to lose it Won’t make it to afc championship game playing like this
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Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!!
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Another thing I'd like to point out. The first fumble, his knee was most definitely down but they called it a fumble. This was against the Raider's so i ain't being biased but that was a terrible call.
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Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!!
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Nfl is about money people.
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Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!!
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Hey ADC you do KNOW that the refs won that game correct. If they had called false start instead of illegal shift 5 yard penalty. Raiders keep the ball. 32 yard field goal Chefs lose.
All the talk on espn and foxs sports. Mahomey and trailer swift gifts.
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Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!!
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Hey ADC you do KNOW that the refs won that game correct. If they had called false start instead of illegal shift 5 yard penalty. Raiders keep the ball. 32 yard field goal Chefs lose.
All the talk on espn and foxs sports. Mahomey and trailer swift gifts. It was the correct call by the books...
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Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!!
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The chiefs really aren't the team they've been the last two years ~ and quite frankly, didn't deserve the win. As a former high school and Arena football official, the illegal shift penalty call was incorrect and it should have been a false-start penalty. Raiders should have kept the ball, might have kicked the FG successfully & been victorious . . . This is why there is so much talk about the true legitimacy of the officials calling the game and whether officials actually favor one team over the other. There have been to many incidents this year not to suspect foul play by the officials in some of the penalty calling.
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Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!!
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Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!!
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Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!!
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The game is easier today because of rules. No qb today would make top 5 in 1990, and any top 5 qb in 1990 would dominate the game today.
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Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!!
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The chiefs really aren't the team they've been the last two years ~ and quite frankly, didn't deserve the win. As a former high school and Arena football official, the illegal shift penalty call was incorrect and it should have been a false-start penalty. Raiders should have kept the ball, might have kicked the FG successfully & been victorious . . . This is why there is so much talk about the true legitimacy of the officials calling the game and whether officials actually favor one team over the other. There have been to many incidents this year not to suspect foul play by the officials in some of the penalty calling. So you disagree with pofarmer post above and whether or not the clock was running?
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Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!!
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Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!!
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Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!!
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Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!!
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Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!!
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The chiefs really aren't the team they've been the last two years ~ and quite frankly, didn't deserve the win. As a former high school and Arena football official, the illegal shift penalty call was incorrect and it should have been a false-start penalty. Raiders should have kept the ball, might have kicked the FG successfully & been victorious . . . This is why there is so much talk about the true legitimacy of the officials calling the game and whether officials actually favor one team over the other. There have been to many incidents this year not to suspect foul play by the officials in some of the penalty calling. Well you have to prebait to keep the big gamblers betting
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Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!!
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The chiefs really aren't the team they've been the last two years ~ and quite frankly, didn't deserve the win. As a former high school and Arena football official, the illegal shift penalty call was incorrect and it should have been a false-start penalty. Raiders should have kept the ball, might have kicked the FG successfully & been victorious . . . This is why there is so much talk about the true legitimacy of the officials calling the game and whether officials actually favor one team over the other. There have been to many incidents this year not to suspect foul play by the officials in some of the penalty calling. So you disagree with pofarmer post above and whether or not the clock was running? Yes, in football, after a ball is spiked which typically stops the clock, the clock will restart on the "ready" signal from the referee so the clock should have been running.
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Well you have to prebait to keep the big gamblers betting[/quote]
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Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!!
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Evidently...the Chiefs suck at cheating....so they have the refs do it for them ...
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Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!!
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Yes, in football, after a ball is spiked which typically stops the clock, the clock will restart on the "ready" signal from the referee so the clock should have been running.
The Raiders fumbled away a good opportunity all right. But, not as bad as the coach did in the Bears-Lions game. Afterwards, he insisted he made the right call.
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