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Tariffs and the fur market #8274876
11/29/24 09:38 PM
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Just curious to what smarter people than me figure will happen to our fur market if retaliatory tariffs are imposed on goods we export (including fur)? I'm mainly thinking of China of course, which I believe is still the dominant player on the international fur market scene.

This is assuming that Trump makes good on his promise to levy heavy tariffs on incoming Chinese goods.


My fear of moving stairs is escalating!
Re: Tariffs and the fur market [Re: beaverpeeler] #8274894
11/29/24 09:52 PM
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My fur is Canadian.



Thank god we never went tracibility.



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Re: Tariffs and the fur market [Re: beaverpeeler] #8274908
11/29/24 10:10 PM
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Just the threat has now brought two of the three to the table.

Re: Tariffs and the fur market [Re: beaverpeeler] #8274909
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The art of the deal at work....


John 14:6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

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Re: Tariffs and the fur market [Re: beaverpeeler] #8274919
11/29/24 10:26 PM
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Remember he was president for 4 years before and imposed tariffs don't think it affected the fur market.

Re: Tariffs and the fur market [Re: Paul Dobbins] #8274928
11/29/24 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Dobbins
The art of the deal at work....

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Re: Tariffs and the fur market [Re: beaverpeeler] #8274935
11/29/24 10:46 PM
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Always the optimist, I'm hoping for the best.

If memory serves, China punished American farmers with stiff tariffs on pork and soybeans among other things last time out?

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Re: Tariffs and the fur market [Re: beaverpeeler] #8274943
11/29/24 10:58 PM
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I doubt there is enough need or want in our country for steady use of fur, for any market to get hurt on tariffs to it !

Trump is working a whole lot sooner and much quicker in action on many aspects of his cabinet weeks before he even takes office like last time, maybe he learned a lesson about needing do more with less talk and stop listening to others he left in position, who came back and stabbed him in the back !

His attitude towards his position is much different as well, just throwing the word tariff's out has half the world uneasy, including our own, as it should !!


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Re: Tariffs and the fur market [Re: beaverpeeler] #8274950
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It won't go down much, it is already in the bottom row. I spoke to a good friend that has been buying fur for 45 years that I have known him. He is still buying, he says it is dead. $25 averages on the best coyotes in MT, Less then $10 on 3XL and up coon, he said beaver are dead. It was dead before Trump was elected.


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Re: Tariffs and the fur market [Re: GritGuy] #8274955
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Originally Posted by GritGuy
I doubt there is enough need or want in our country for steady use of fur, for any market to get hurt on tariffs to it !

Trump is working a whole lot sooner and much quicker in action on many aspects of his cabinet weeks before he even takes office like last time, maybe he learned a lesson about needing do more with less talk and stop listening to others he left in position, who came back and stabbed him in the back !

His attitude towards his position is much different as well, just throwing the word tariff's out has half the world uneasy, including our own, as it should !!


I was referring to potential retaliatory tariffs on American fur going to China.


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Re: Tariffs and the fur market [Re: beaverpeeler] #8274957
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The chinese gotta be scratching their heads over how north americans can produce wild animal pelts so cheap. They gotta be thinking, we couldn't produce pelts that cheap with child or slave labor?

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Re: Tariffs and the fur market [Re: MJM] #8274965
11/29/24 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by MJM
It won't go down much, it is already in the bottom row. I spoke to a good friend that has been buying fur for 45 years that I have known him. He is still buying, he says it is dead. $25 averages on the best coyotes in MT, Less then $10 on 3XL and up coon, he said beaver are dead. It was dead before Trump was elected.


The hope is always that the international fur market can improve....


My fear of moving stairs is escalating!
Re: Tariffs and the fur market [Re: beaverpeeler] #8274968
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gfw said something about this

Re: Tariffs and the fur market [Re: beaverpeeler] #8274975
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BP, yes I understand that, but what I'm saying is there is not much in tariffs other country's can threaten us with to save a market thats not there !


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Re: Tariffs and the fur market [Re: GritGuy] #8274977
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Originally Posted by GritGuy
BP, yes I understand that, but what I'm saying is there is not much in tariffs other country's can threaten us with to save a market thats not there !


OK, I gotcha. I guess I can imagine a blanket retaliatory tariff on all American exports to China.


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Re: Tariffs and the fur market [Re: beaverpeeler] #8274981
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I'm just here for the comments by Steven49er, white17, spjones, etc.


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Re: Tariffs and the fur market [Re: yotetrapper30] #8274992
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
I'm just here for the comments by Steven49er, white17, spjones, etc.


And the ambiance……. (Fire flickern )


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Re: Tariffs and the fur market [Re: Vinke] #8274994
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
I'm just here for the comments by Steven49er, white17, spjones, etc.


And the ambiance……. (Fire flickern )


Go home Vinke. You're drunk.....


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Re: Tariffs and the fur market [Re: Dirt] #8274999
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Originally Posted by Dirt
The chinese gotta be scratching their heads over how north americans can produce wild animal pelts so cheap. They gotta be thinking, we couldn't produce pelts that cheap with child or slave labor?


It's because trapping is fun, even though it's often hard work, so people do it even though they could make more doing most anything else, with less work.

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Re: Tariffs and the fur market [Re: beaverpeeler] #8275065
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
The hope is always that the international fur market can improve....

Some times you have to look at reality. Improve is about all that is possible. But I don't think it will happen this year. In reality, there is no fur market. Even the trapper sales are becoming a trinket and craft sales.


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