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Re: Cancer, what is going on? [Re: jabNE] #8290801
12/22/24 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by jabNE
Foxkidd44,
I have CML and am one of the very fortunate less than 5% of total patients with it to achieve undetectable results for three straight years while on a 2x daily chemo regimen. They took me off of chemo last May and so far after 6 months of monthly bloodwork the two key markers p210 and p190 are still measuring undetectable. I now go to every two months bloodwork and if my Feb and April measures come back clean I go to every three months for rest of my life. There is no cure for CML, but if I never have to go back on chemo again, isnt that sort of like a cure?
There were enough studies out there that showed if I could get to this level I had a 50/50 chance of not going back on it.
I completely credit the cookies from the tman discretionary fund that Zim and Patrice sent me. Powerful stuff.
Anyway, they built a new huge cancer facility here in Lincoln and that’s where I go for my bloodwork and doc visits. The parking lot is always FULL. I mean always FULL. Very sad. We go in, nobody looks at each other in the lobby, we all know why we are there. It’s sad.
Jim

What is CML? Don't know that I've ever heard of it.


"My life is better than your vacation"
Re: Cancer, what is going on? [Re: foxkidd44] #8290911
12/22/24 11:11 PM
12/22/24 11:11 PM
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Below is a brief summary of cancer rates and mortalities in the USA for the last 8 years. Rate increases are very small and death rates are dropping. Also with more screening we may be finding more cancer than we did even a few years ago.
Bryce

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Yes, cancer rates in the United States have been increasing in recent years.
According to the American Cancer Society, the overall cancer incidence rate (new cases per 100,000 people) increased from 436.8 in 2017 to 440.9 in 2021. This increase was driven by several factors, including:
Aging population: As the population ages, the risk of developing cancer increases.
Increased screening: More people are undergoing cancer screenings, which can detect cancer earlier when it is more treatable.
Lifestyle factors: Factors such as obesity, smoking, and alcohol consumption contribute to increased cancer risk.
However, it's important to note that while cancer incidence is increasing, cancer death rates have been declining for many types of cancer. This is due to improvements in early detection, treatment, and prevention.
Additionally, the increase in cancer incidence is not uniform across all cancer types. Some types, such as breast and prostate cancer, have seen significant increases, while others, such as lung cancer, have declined.

Re: Cancer, what is going on? [Re: foxkidd44] #8290916
12/22/24 11:16 PM
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Our diets are crap. It costs more and takes more time to eat somewhat healthy. We are heavily medicated because thats what the doctors we “trust” are taught to do. I trust them less every day. I have MS and my bills run around 100k a year, the most being a 6 month infusion. Ive read a few online books about high dosing Vitamin D and what it can help or cure. It’s cheap, really cheap and the list of diseases these authors claim it helps with, including cancer, is pretty shocking.

Theres a doc in Brazil who will put some MS patients on 150,000ish i/u per day. Thats roughly $1.50 a day. Claims to see improvement in number of lesions-yet Im told thats impossible by my doc. I am self medicating with a definitely higher than normal dose of Vit D and my doc got after me for my levels in my bloodwork. I asked what’s unsafe about it and she said Im gonna overdose. i told her Ive read that’s not actually a thing from several sources, until it gets REALLY high, she had nothing. Because shes told to say it’s unhealthy-here take this $40k infusion that can cause a PML and death and wipes my immune system for weeks every time I do it. It’s safe! They told me so!

Re: Cancer, what is going on? [Re: Providence Farm] #8291209
12/23/24 11:58 AM
12/23/24 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
There's no money in a Well population


and the money is in the treatments not a cure.

Time for the people to tackle this BS.


Never Confuse Stupid With Crazy
Re: Cancer, what is going on? [Re: mad_mike] #8291233
12/23/24 12:27 PM
12/23/24 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by mad_mike
Plastics, particularly the PFAS “forever plastics”. No way to avoid ingesting them.

https://www.nrdc.org/stories/forever-chemicals-called-pfas-show-your-food-clothes-and-home

Once read an article that said never heat anything in plastic in your microwave. Put it on a glass plate. The plastic will react to the heat and contaminate the food.
Heard that aluminum canned beverages are not good either. The metal will eventually leach into the beverage. We switched to everything glass bottles.
Aspartame, the sweetener is like poison. There are numerous studies that verify that. Yet, they continue to allow it as a sweetener.


Immigrants who bypassed legal process in migrating to the US demand legal process before being kicked out.
Re: Cancer, what is going on? [Re: foxkidd44] #8291253
12/23/24 01:08 PM
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Don't forget what goes into town water. The fluorides and chemicals.
Waggler, cml is short for chronic myeloid leukemia, basically a blood cancer.

Drifter, we have a double whammy here also. About six miles to the south we have Mt. Trashmore as we call it. A huge landfill that trains are nonstop from out of state garbage. They've bought up all the homes within about a two mile radius because of the "health issues".

Re: Cancer, what is going on? [Re: DWC] #8291259
12/23/24 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by DWC
Our diets are crap. It costs more and takes more time to eat somewhat healthy. We are heavily medicated because thats what the doctors we “trust” are taught to do. I trust them less every day. I have MS and my bills run around 100k a year, the most being a 6 month infusion. Ive read a few online books about high dosing Vitamin D and what it can help or cure. It’s cheap, really cheap and the list of diseases these authors claim it helps with, including cancer, is pretty shocking.

Theres a doc in Brazil who will put some MS patients on 150,000ish i/u per day. Thats roughly $1.50 a day. Claims to see improvement in number of lesions-yet Im told thats impossible by my doc. I am self medicating with a definitely higher than normal dose of Vit D and my doc got after me for my levels in my bloodwork. I asked what’s unsafe about it and she said Im gonna overdose. i told her Ive read that’s not actually a thing from several sources, until it gets REALLY high, she had nothing. Because shes told to say it’s unhealthy-here take this $40k infusion that can cause a PML and death and wipes my immune system for weeks every time I do it. It’s safe! They told me so!




Cost more and takes more time to prep is b.s. I saw an informative finance video debunking your claim. That excuse is used by many many people and is nothing more than an excuse. Look into it and you will see.

Re: Cancer, what is going on? [Re: Trapper7] #8291263
12/23/24 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Trapper7
Originally Posted by mad_mike
Plastics, particularly the PFAS “forever plastics”. No way to avoid ingesting them.

https://www.nrdc.org/stories/forever-chemicals-called-pfas-show-your-food-clothes-and-home

Once read an article that said never heat anything in plastic in your microwave. Put it on a glass plate. The plastic will react to the heat and contaminate the food.
Heard that aluminum canned beverages are not good either. The metal will eventually leach into the beverage. We switched to everything glass bottles.
Aspartame, the sweetener is like poison. There are numerous studies that verify that. Yet, they continue to allow it as a sweetener.

That's true. Heating food in plastic can mess with estrogen levels and other things as well. I was told years ago by a body builder and health nut. Glass and a paper towel on top if you need a cover.

Re: Cancer, what is going on? [Re: foxkidd44] #8291285
12/23/24 02:25 PM
12/23/24 02:25 PM
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Just so I understand, there are zero health professionals or research people that have gotten cancer or have loved ones that have not.

Or

They have but were willing to sacrifice themselves or their loved ones to keep a cure a secret from the rest of the world.

Is this correct or close to what y’all believe?


-Goofy
Re: Cancer, what is going on? [Re: Sharon] #8291305
12/23/24 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Sharon
Originally Posted by Sheepdog1
YES, there are treatments out there that have been put on the back burner by the FDA, they have been proven in the test studies, yet the
fda gets their pockets lined to not approve them. Its absolutely insane this has been allowed. A lot of these treatments are already in use with great results in the European countries.



Exactly right on all counts, Dave. The erosion of health from so many sources that end up blending together like moraines from glaciers is astounding. Big Pharma is right in the middle of it . I can't wait to see President Trump's A Team eradicate CDC, WHO, and the others . And the other one with that dot Indian who always browbeats by threats..." if you don't do what we say, you're all gonna die".....what worthless hatred , needing control. There is more that has been contributing to the explosion of cancer and other ailments , and more and more people see it. Some folks have seen these things for years , but it's becoming more known these days.



THIS


TILL THAT DAY.....
Re: Cancer, what is going on? [Re: HobbieTrapper] #8291322
12/23/24 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
Just so I understand, there are zero health professionals or research people that have gotten cancer or have loved ones that have not.

Or

They have but were willing to sacrifice themselves or their loved ones to keep a cure a secret from the rest of the world.

Is this correct or close to what y’all believe?

I wouldn't say that, but......look at how many Dr's pushed the vaccine and boosters in the beginning but didn't take it themselves and a year or two later advised against it. It's not like it's a secret that they all know, but I bet there are people at the top and scientists that work on sicknesses know. A doctor and a scientist are not the same.

Re: Cancer, what is going on? [Re: foxkidd44] #8291469
12/23/24 06:32 PM
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I dont believe its possible for humans to live forever. Maybe someday. If that day comes then what? Ban reproduction? Cancer can be painful. I am glad narcotics are available to make taking your turn at dying easier.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Cancer, what is going on? [Re: WI Outdoors] #8291589
12/23/24 09:11 PM
12/23/24 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by WI Outdoors
Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
Just so I understand, there are zero health professionals or research people that have gotten cancer or have loved ones that have not.

Or

They have but were willing to sacrifice themselves or their loved ones to keep a cure a secret from the rest of the world.

Is this correct or close to what y’all believe?

I wouldn't say that, but......look at how many Dr's pushed the vaccine and boosters in the beginning but didn't take it themselves and a year or two later advised against it. It's not like it's a secret that they all know, but I bet there are people at the top and scientists that work on sicknesses know. A doctor and a scientist are not the same.


So every scientist at that level is evil? lol


-Goofy
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