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Re: Pole barn heater [Re: sigpros] #8310033
01/12/25 12:20 PM
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We were at a crowded restaurant the other night and got stuck in an outdoor overflow area. It was enclosed but barely. They had 3 of those big mushroom radiant space heaters going. It was cold enough you could see your breath, yet was able to sit around in shirtsleeves if you were close enough to the heaters. Radiant heat would be the way to go.

Dad's wood shop is about 26 x 40 and he heated it with a wood burning furnace. It had a blower, but no duct work. Just forced hot air into the shed. Worked, kinda sorta, but burned a lot of wood for the amount of heat it produced. If I was to replace that, it would be with some form of rocket mass heater......stacked fire brick combustion chamber, then run thru the 55 gallon steel drum, then thru a thermal mass like a brick bell. Or a commercial built unit like the Liberator Rocket stove, with exhaust run thru the thermal mass. Both of those are going to radiate heat for hours, and if it cools down, fire it again.

This isn't what I'd build, but gives you the idea of what is going on. Close to 99% combustion of all smoke and gases.......fire gets to 1,500*F plus, but by the time it gets to chimney, is down to 150*F to 200*F. The heat is stored in thermal mass to radiate out over time.


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Re: Pole barn heater [Re: sigpros] #8310036
01/12/25 12:24 PM
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We use a 250,000 BTU Kerosene heater torpedo style for our 30 x 60 Metal facility. Works great to heat it up pretty fast. Then I switch to a 55,000 with less noise after we are heated up nicely. We also have a wall heater propane type 30,000 BTU for help as needed to maintain the temperature after the torpedos are shut down.

Re: Pole barn heater [Re: sigpros] #8310079
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You will most likely have a major condensation problem if you let the heat hit the inside of an un insulated metal roof. The building we have on the go in Canada is 22x64 in the living space. Looked into spray and blow in insulation. Couple builders recommended 1” ridged foam on bottom of trusses for ceiling and as many inches of blow in insulation as you can afford blown on top of foam panels. Ridged foam acts as vapor barrier and isnt much more $ than wood. Blow in is less than 1/2 the cost of spray foam. Be sure to use chutes to avoid plugging soffit vents with blow in.

We plan on heating main area with wood stove and comfort cove wall mount radiant heaters in bed rooms and bathrooms.

Re: Pole barn heater [Re: sigpros] #8310260
01/12/25 03:57 PM
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put in a wood burning stove,

Re: Pole barn heater [Re: sigpros] #8310698
01/12/25 08:26 PM
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One thing about spray on foam is when the steel rust from the inside you have to replace it and the insulation, I know the shop is a mess because of this.

Re: Pole barn heater [Re: sigpros] #8311409
01/13/25 03:40 PM
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Made this from a 36" inch piece I cut from a 500 gallon LP tank.
Put a squirrel cage blower in the back to blow hot air through the tubes when the wood dire gets them nice and warm.
Use the torch to light the wood, ( Much quicker that way ).
The tubes are heavy wall black steel pipe.
BARN IS 32'x40' And no insulation needed. Walls and ceiling stay dry.


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Re: Pole barn heater [Re: sigpros] #8311423
01/13/25 04:15 PM
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Nice work you got there Pelts!


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Re: Pole barn heater [Re: sigpros] #8311491
01/13/25 05:56 PM
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Thanks. Here's a couple more views.
I added 2 more air inlets beside the door. ( Bottom picture ) At -16 degrees in 35 minutes the shop was 73 degrees.

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Re: Pole barn heater [Re: sigpros] #8311970
01/14/25 07:53 AM
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That’s a great looking stove and I’m jealous of how nice and clean your shop is

Re: Pole barn heater [Re: sigpros] #8312076
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Pelts, great looking stove. But looks like your stove pipe isn’t sloping up . It’s tuff to say but the picture of the stove pipe horizontal pipe looks like it slopes downward. The pipe should slope upwards a 1/4” per foot for proper draft.


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Re: Pole barn heater [Re: Pelts] #8312096
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Originally Posted by Pelts
Made this from a 36" inch piece I cut from a 500 gallon LP tank.
Put a squirrel cage blower in the back to blow hot air through the tubes when the wood dire gets them nice and warm.
Use the torch to light the wood, ( Much quicker that way ).
The tubes are heavy wall black steel pipe.
BARN IS 32'x40' And no insulation needed. Walls and ceiling stay dry.


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Yep, beautiful!! This is a great setup for you woodstove will be the cheapest to run. If not using it all the time to heat just when you have a project to do this will be the best. Condensation will be an issue but you still could use that area for off and on projects. That or spend big money to take care of sweeting and lowering celling.


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Re: Pole barn heater [Re: vermontster] #8312100
01/14/25 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by vermontster
Pelts, great looking stove. But looks like your stove pipe isn’t sloping up . It’s tuff to say but the picture of the stove pipe horizontal pipe looks like it slopes downward. The pipe should slope upwards a 1/4” per foot for proper draft.


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Pelts, I see you're in MI, so codes/requirements may be different from WI. From the pic, it looks like straight single wall pipe exiting the building. Here in WI, you need min 18" clearance to that girt. Double wall pipe I think is 6". Major insurance issue if it were to catch fire.


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Re: Pole barn heater [Re: sigpros] #8312136
01/14/25 11:37 AM
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6” wall thimble and a hunk of double wall through it would be no big deal to install for a guy who built that stove! Be good piece of mind. A chimney fire in that horizontal pipe could end up being a big problem.

Re: Pole barn heater [Re: sigpros] #8312147
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I have a torpedo heater, 125,000 btu I think. It pours out a ton of heat and never gets close to warming my uninsulated pole barn. I stand in front of it in short bursts to warm myself not the room.

I hung curtains to make a smaller area, with 14' ceilings I found a 14' foot brown canvas tarp the same width and hung them from nails in the rafters, so they break right at the floor.

That worked good for the walls but I have to throw up some sheeting on the ceiling and block of the gable vents to start being able to hold any heat.

The attic above the barn warms up through but that b/c its just a 4' wide 5' tall strip just under the peak (above the gable) so a lot of the heat rises to there.

Maybe that will help.

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