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Corporate Titans #8315562
01/18/25 01:12 PM
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This post may get deleted for being political, but I find it to be more economical.

In a WSJ article this morning, the claim was made that most Trump supporters are against "corporate titans".....

And I'm wondering, is that true???

There are more Trump supporters gathered on this website than anywhere else I go.... and I am myself one... but I certainly am not against Americans that strove to and succeeded in making a fortune for themselves and their family. I mean, isn't that the epitome of the American Dream???

I have seen many on here speak out against big business... be it farmers, or pharmaceutical companies... or Walmart.

But, in general.... do those of you that support Trump also hate big business.... and if so.... why??


Just give me one thing, that I can hold on to. To believe in this livin' is just a hard way to go.
Re: Corporate Titans [Re: yotetrapper30] #8315569
01/18/25 01:16 PM
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Odd headline when Musk, Bezio, Suckerburg, etc, etc. etc. are all in lock step with him now.


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Re: Corporate Titans [Re: yotetrapper30] #8315575
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Corporate media has more sway than any other corporations.

Re: Corporate Titans [Re: yotetrapper30] #8315580
01/18/25 01:23 PM
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The problem isnt because they are well-to-do...its because of the corruption they are involved in or the wicked agendas that they support. The right really doesnt have too many in the billionaires club that is really friendly to our view on things.

Re: Corporate Titans [Re: yotetrapper30] #8315591
01/18/25 01:39 PM
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Really depends on how one lives their lives, how they support anything, I don't believe that a President has as much control of things people think they do, even a popular one as is going in now !

For me it's a matter of how thee corporations keep work coming into the country to support people's lives, this will support them, where ever their main office is registered at, which is also a cover for them from tax's here generally.

Popular presidents over the long run have been good to great speakers of showing good or questionable ideas that work, which coincide with large corporations that are doing for the most park the carrying of the main work force in our country.

Outside of the country, they give other country's support through strong and some might call boastful talk about matters that do concern us and make these countries feel a bit better about how things that may be if our country does get involved, which to a degree we are any way, through cooperate entities already installed.

When things go sides ways we usually have a president saying things we already know they don't mean or are siding with companies that we already feel is not worth our way of living we choose to have, and those words of who or why in some manner knock the quiet majority around some, which goes both ways when a more positive or thundering voice oriented speaker gets elected once again !

A viscous cycle for sure in my view, which our country has lived with since it's beginning !


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Re: Corporate Titans [Re: yotetrapper30] #8315592
01/18/25 01:45 PM
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I have changed my buying practices because of policies corporations support not because of how they got the money to do so.


-Goofy
Re: Corporate Titans [Re: yotetrapper30] #8315599
01/18/25 01:57 PM
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What J said. Odd thing for them to say. Maybe some of the Journal share holders are making money with illegals and import business's?


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Corporate Titans [Re: yotetrapper30] #8315622
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I may not agree with the policies they push, such as DEI, but I take no offense to someone making a ton of money.

Re: Corporate Titans [Re: yotetrapper30] #8315637
01/18/25 02:41 PM
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I’ve got no problem with people being corporate titans. My problem is when the title of corporate titan comes before the well being of the people they are selling to. Especially when those being targeted are children.

When food companies knowingly put a product out that has adverse affects on people, but could replace ingredients with something better than I have an issue. When social media algorithms are targeting and having unprecedented incidences of self harm on young girls, I have an issue with it. Pharmaceuticals companies who are suppressing truth about what’s causing the issues they are selling pills for and the pills have a side effect list longer and worse than what they are supposedly curing. So I guess I just have issues with corporate titans who are making their money by taking advantage of others.

I have no problem with wealthy people though. My money generally goes to support people with similar values to me and I would say that generally isn’t corporate titans


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Re: Corporate Titans [Re: Jtrapper] #8315646
01/18/25 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Jtrapper
Odd headline when Musk, Bezio, Suckerburg, etc, etc. etc. are all in lock step with him now.



Not really... it was discussing the divide....

https://www.wsj.com/politics/elon-m...m1&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink


Just give me one thing, that I can hold on to. To believe in this livin' is just a hard way to go.
Re: Corporate Titans [Re: yotetrapper30] #8315649
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You'd be surprised how many big businesses and wealthy support Democrats because the Democrats create lots of regulations that keep the little guy from starting up. Wipes out the competition. I don't shop at Walmart either. They put a lot of small businesses out of business. Do I hate them? No, It's their right to be in business. Do I support them? No. I vote with my wallet too.

Re: Corporate Titans [Re: yotetrapper30] #8315666
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Political appointments should not be for sale. Seems to be a pattern.

Maybe we will return to our national values someday.

Re: Corporate Titans [Re: yotetrapper30] #8315688
01/18/25 03:47 PM
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I find it odd you mention our National Values.

What are those, exactly, in your opinion, Charles??


Just give me one thing, that I can hold on to. To believe in this livin' is just a hard way to go.
Re: Corporate Titans [Re: charles] #8315700
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Originally Posted by charles
Political appointments should not be for sale. Seems to be a pattern.

Maybe we will return to our national values someday.



I think it has been that way forever. Contributors to campaigns have routinely been appointed ambassadors to various foreign countries.


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Re: Corporate Titans [Re: yotetrapper30] #8315719
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You can't paint with a broad brush, but the problem I see is big, or any, corporations are beholden to their stockholders, so if they can squeeze a little more profit by bailing and going over seas, they will.
I read a statement once that said..Corporations have no soul, it's profits above everything and everybody,... thus most of the crap we're stuck with comes from China...
and you can't blame the "titans" for taking advantage of any tax loophole, or gov't handout, We all do it just not at their scale.
Rush once said poor people don't hire workers, If you're working for the big corps or titans, you're part of the game....
You can protest, refuse to buy from places you don't like, but it makes zero difference in anyones life or the economy...

Re: Corporate Titans [Re: gcs] #8315735
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Originally Posted by gcs
You can't paint with a broad brush, but the problem I see is big, or any, corporations are beholden to their stockholders, so if they can squeeze a little more profit by bailing and going over seas, they will.
I read a statement once that said..Corporations have no soul, it's profits above everything and everybody,... thus most of the crap we're stuck with comes from China...
and you can't blame the "titans" for taking advantage of any tax loophole, or gov't handout, We all do it just not at their scale.
Rush once said poor people don't hire workers, If you're working for the big corps or titans, you're part of the game....
You can protest, refuse to buy from places you don't like, but it makes zero difference in anyones life or the economy...


Makes a difference in my life.


-Goofy
Re: Corporate Titans [Re: yotetrapper30] #8315768
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I think we see abuse in many different forms. If I have a lot of money and loan it to someone that any street person would know they was under water almost immediately after getting the loan then there has to be some legally and moral recourse. If we reward bad business, expect more to come.

Free markets work when they are truly free and it works out for the best when they are not being be controlled by another force with either financial gain or maybe getting votes.

As far as monopolies if its just doing it because one can, as soon as its becomes so big it falls under its own weight. The Hunt brothers got so the interest and storage was eating them alive and since they owned the market they couldn't liquidate large amounts of their holdings to stop the bleeding , because they themselves would drive the price down.

Then there is examples like a chicken farmer who doesn't take care of business nor his birds, the animal rights see that and put regulations on the entire industry, when in reality that one raiser was soon going out of business anyway. If animals aren't kept healthy they don't make money and when you don't make money other forces take over. When do-good organizations find a cause to sell to people that have money and want a feel-good experience, then you have a controlled free market ran by watchdogs, wolves or the little foxes. Getting in the news brings in more do-gooders and their money.

As far as big goes, it just depends. All through history there has been rivalry competition between the Goliath's and the Davids. When the Davids are overpowered one is going to need more rocks, lol !

Re: Corporate Titans [Re: yotetrapper30] #8315771
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
This post may get deleted for being political, but I find it to be more economical.

In a WSJ article this morning, the claim was made that most Trump supporters are against "corporate titans".....

And I'm wondering, is that true???

There are more Trump supporters gathered on this website than anywhere else I go.... and I am myself one... but I certainly am not against Americans that strove to and succeeded in making a fortune for themselves and their family. I mean, isn't that the epitome of the American Dream???

I have seen many on here speak out against big business... be it farmers, or pharmaceutical companies... or Walmart.

But, in general.... do those of you that support Trump also hate big business.... and if so.... why??


I'm a Trump supporter that supports business big and small.


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Re: Corporate Titans [Re: yotetrapper30] #8316028
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I think most of us would like to see “Main Street” return, and large corporations hurt that, but so does the automobile, interstate, and the internet, they all make it easier to leave the small town and shop.

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Originally Posted by Bob_Iowa
I think most of us would like to see “Main Street” return, and large corporations hurt that, but so does the automobile, interstate, and the internet, they all make it easier to leave the small town and shop.


Only if there is a big change in people. Online shopping took us out of having to “tolerate people” and I don’t see going back to tolerating each other being an easy thing. lol


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