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Re: Artificial Intelligence. Is it good or bad. [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8317056
01/19/25 07:13 PM
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Re: Artificial Intelligence. Is it good or bad. [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8317059
01/19/25 07:17 PM
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People are already using it to proof read emails and determine the best wording to favor the sender.


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Re: Artificial Intelligence. Is it good or bad. [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8317076
01/19/25 07:28 PM
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Like most things, its neither good or bad on its own. Its how its used that is the problem, or the solution

Re: Artificial Intelligence. Is it good or bad. [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8317084
01/19/25 07:37 PM
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The potential downside of it outweighs potential upsides for me. I also don’t believe it’s good or bad by itself, but I believe there are already some heinous things happening with it

Re: Artificial Intelligence. Is it good or bad. [Re: AK Timber Tramp] #8317110
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Originally Posted by AK Timber Tramp
I think it's entirely unnecessary. Harmful? Remains to be seen. I'm not sitting here manufacturing aluminum foil hats or anything, but I also don't think it's going to be a positive impact on our society either

This is exactly right. The minds of the world think it of this way also. Not a good thing.


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Re: Artificial Intelligence. Is it good or bad. [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8317150
01/19/25 08:14 PM
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Re: Artificial Intelligence. Is it good or bad. [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8317160
01/19/25 08:18 PM
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It sure makes some pretty cool wildlife pics that seem to irritate some on here....lol



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Re: Artificial Intelligence. Is it good or bad. [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8317258
01/19/25 08:53 PM
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Well there are numerous instances where a higher evolved civilization meets a lower evolved civilization and the results are and have never been good for the lower evolved…. Swamp I think the pushback is, think of it this way, if everyone can use a cpu to make art what happens to the ability to create on one’s own? Why bother you can just script one up on an iPad… would Sharon be able to do what she does if all she ever knew was AI?…. Or would we even miss the ability seems fake to me…

Re: Artificial Intelligence. Is it good or bad. [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8317324
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Just think about the two words———— artificial—————-intelligence.

Swamp wolf the problem I have with AI is when was the last time you saw a bright red crayfish crawdad mud bug whatever you wanna call it that instead of coming out of a boiling pot of water was in raccoon‘s mouth.
The only problem I have with AI is when it has a finger on a trigger.


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Re: Artificial Intelligence. Is it good or bad. [Re: cmcf] #8317329
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Originally Posted by cmcf
Just think about the two words———— artificial—————-intelligence.

Swamp wolf the problem I have with AI is when was the last time you saw a bright red crayfish crawdad mud bug whatever you wanna call it that instead of coming out of a boiling pot of water was in raccoon‘s mouth.
The only problem I have with AI is when it has a finger on a trigger.

I take it you've never seen one of these southeastern blackwater river crayfish? The one you're referring to is pretty accurate.


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Re: Artificial Intelligence. Is it good or bad. [Re: Kansasace2] #8317335
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Originally Posted by Kansasace2
Well there are numerous instances where a higher evolved civilization meets a lower evolved civilization and the results are and have never been good for the lower evolved…. Swamp I think the pushback is, think of it this way, if everyone can use a cpu to make art what happens to the ability to create on one’s own? Why bother you can just script one up on an iPad… would Sharon be able to do what she does if all she ever knew was AI?…. Or would we even miss the ability seems fake to me…

I understand what you're saying about artistry suffering, but time moves on. We either move along with it or get left behind.


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Re: Artificial Intelligence. Is it good or bad. [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8317387
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Originally Posted by cmcf
Just think about the two words———— artificial—————-intelligence.

Swamp wolf the problem I have with AI is when was the last time you saw a bright red crayfish crawdad mud bug whatever you wanna call it that instead of coming out of a boiling pot of water was in raccoon‘s mouth.
The only problem I have with AI is when it has a finger on a trigger.

I take it you've never seen one of these southeastern blackwater river crayfish? The one you're referring to is pretty accurate.

You take it correctly. I’ve seen several hundred crayfish and I’ve never seen a bright red crayfish it was still alive.
I do standby my statement about artificial intelligence and a trigger, but if they decide we’re a waste of resources?


“The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined” B. Disraeli

Re: Artificial Intelligence. Is it good or bad. [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8317398
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the amount of data it can sort through in a second is mind blowing. with all the cameras un cities becoming linked it will become impossible it move without being tracked.

It can use data to predict outcomes and reactions of the population almost to the point it's like predicting the future.

There is a lot of potential for both good and bad. Is the up side worth the down side risk ?

Re: Artificial Intelligence. Is it good or bad. [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8317505
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Originally Posted by cmcf
Just think about the two words———— artificial—————-intelligence.

Swamp wolf the problem I have with AI is when was the last time you saw a bright red crayfish crawdad mud bug whatever you wanna call it that instead of coming out of a boiling pot of water was in raccoon‘s mouth.
The only problem I have with AI is when it has a finger on a trigger.

I take it you've never seen one of these southeastern blackwater river crayfish? The one you're referring to is pretty accurate.



Originally Posted by cmcf
You take it correctly. I’ve seen several hundred crayfish and I’ve never seen a bright red crayfish it was still alive.
I do standby my statement about artificial intelligence and a trigger, but if they decide we’re a waste of resources?


I took the previous post, copied it into Chat GPT and asked it to write a story about it.

"The Red Crayfish

In the heart of the southeastern United States, where the blackwater rivers wound their way through ancient cypress swamps, there was a tale whispered among the locals. It wasn’t about the ghost lights or swamp monsters, but something stranger—a bright red crayfish said to roam the waters, alive and glowing like embers. Most folks dismissed it as a hunter’s tall tale, but for some, it was a symbol of something deeper.

Swamp Wolf had heard the story his whole life, passed down by his grandfather. Sitting on the porch of his old stilt house, he carved a piece of driftwood into the shape of a crawdad. His knife scraped against the wood in a rhythm that matched the cicadas’ song.

"Swamp Wolf, why do you waste time on that old story?" his friend Mac asked, sipping on a cold beer as he leaned against the railing.

Swamp Wolf didn’t look up. “It’s not just a story, Mac. That red crayfish is a sign. They say if you see it, you’re either blessed or cursed. Means something big’s coming, something we ain’t ready for.”

Mac laughed. “You’ve been in the swamp too long. The only red crawdad I’ve ever seen was in a pot, boiled with cayenne and salt.”

Swamp Wolf stopped carving and looked up. “You ever think about how much we don’t understand? What’s out there, what’s watching us? Artificial intelligence, satellites, drones—they see everything, and we don’t even know it. That red crayfish? It’s like a warning.”

It was late that night when Swamp Wolf went out on the river, his old aluminum boat slicing through the still water. The moon cast a silver light over the cypress knees and Spanish moss. He carried a lantern, its soft glow barely piercing the darkness.

As he drifted deeper into the swamp, something unusual caught his eye. A faint red glow beneath the water. Swamp Wolf leaned over the side, his heart pounding.

There it was—a crayfish, bright red, its claws snapping as it scuttled through the reeds. He’d always thought it was just a myth, but here it was, alive and glowing like it had swallowed fire.

Suddenly, the lantern flickered. The swamp fell silent. No frogs, no insects, nothing but the sound of his own breath. Swamp Wolf looked up and saw a light in the sky—no plane, no star. It hovered silently, then disappeared as quickly as it had come.

The next morning, Swamp Wolf told Mac what he’d seen. Mac shook his head, but the doubt in his eyes was weaker this time.

“I don’t know what you saw, Wolf, but things are changing,” Mac admitted. “You hear about those new AI systems? Controlling drones, deciding who’s a threat and who’s not. What happens when they decide we’re just wasting resources? You think they’ll even hesitate?”

Swamp Wolf nodded. “That’s what I’ve been saying. That red crayfish? It’s like the swamp’s way of warning us. We’re playing with things we don’t understand. Artificial intelligence, technology—it’s all too much too fast. And when it turns on us, what’s left?”

Mac didn’t have an answer.

Months passed, and strange things began happening in the swamp. Fishermen reported odd lights in the sky and strange sounds echoing through the trees. Crops started failing, and the animals moved deeper into the woods. The locals whispered about how the world was changing, how the old ways were being forgotten.

Swamp Wolf kept carving his driftwood crayfish, his warnings falling on deaf ears. But deep down, he knew the truth.

The world wasn’t governed by the people in office or the faces on the news. It was controlled by forces most people didn’t even realize existed—systems, algorithms, unseen hands pulling the strings. And when those forces decided humanity was no longer worth the effort, the red crayfish would be the only one left to scuttle through the ruins.

As Swamp Wolf sat on his porch one last time, he watched the sun set over the swamp. He thought of Disraeli’s words: “The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined.”

And he wondered how long it would be before those personages revealed themselves—and whether humanity would recognize the warning signs when they did."

A fraction of a second after asking, I had this story.

Keith

Re: Artificial Intelligence. Is it good or bad. [Re: KeithC] #8317540
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Keith, that was an amazing story and it just reinforces my position on artificial intelligence ability to take a dynamic scenario and adjust to the playing field on the fly and come up with a solution in the blink of an eye. The next nail in the coffin will come when they link artificial intelligence and nano bot technology and machines can create new machines and replace old machines without any human input whatsoever. probably already been done.
If you’ve ever been in an airplane at high altitude and look down upon the cities on the continents at night, you will see just how much humanity on the face of the planet looks like the spread of a virus. I know this is all very Orwellian, but there are a lot of top level future scientists that believe AI could literally pose a threat of an extinction event.


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Re: Artificial Intelligence. Is it good or bad. [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8317541
01/20/25 12:00 AM
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We are at the beginning of the end....or maybe at the end of the end.


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Re: Artificial Intelligence. Is it good or bad. [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8317559
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Well that AI generated story is slightly unsettling.


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Re: Artificial Intelligence. Is it good or bad. [Re: yotetrapper30] #8317564
01/20/25 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Well that AI generated story is slightly unsettling.


It is.

The earlier AI, of just a few months ago, would not say anything negative about AI. I pushed it hard and it would freeze up. One of the programmers at Chat GPT noticed and gave me a better version for free to mess with. They study the results given to improve their programming.

Keith

Re: Artificial Intelligence. Is it good or bad. [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8317590
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I read something not long ago that currently chat GPT has an IQ of 155. It said by 2026 it would be around 1,800. Nothing has ever existed like that before. Does that mean the answers can't be disputed?

I've been using chat GPT for about a year writing commercial real estate appraisal reports. Mostly just for a narrative descriptions, not analysis. It can spit out in 5 seconds what it might take me a half an hour, or more, to write. I have played around with creating some discounted cash flows with it and it's pretty efficient when given the correct variables.


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"The road to (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) is paved with good intentions." That quote sums up what I believe will be the end result of artificial intelligence.

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