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Re: Using ash wood for 2x4 [Re: Bob_Iowa] #8317484
01/19/25 10:53 PM
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It will make a poor dimensional lumber for construction. Just doesn’t have good characteristics for framing lumber including being hard to nail without splitting when dry.

Makes a nice tongue & groove , fairly popular in this country for interior paneling in cabins. Work for cabinets or furniture like end tables.

Its biggest asset as firewood is White ash can be burnt green or dry. Not a huge amount of btu at least in comparison to other hardwoods in this country. Ash makes a lot of ash in my experience.


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Re: Using ash wood for 2x4 [Re: Bob_Iowa] #8317549
01/20/25 12:17 AM
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It makes good flooring.

Re: Using ash wood for 2x4 [Re: Bob_Iowa] #8317594
01/20/25 06:06 AM
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There is a good market right now for ash. Send it to the mill.

Re: Using ash wood for 2x4 [Re: Bob_Iowa] #8317617
01/20/25 07:22 AM
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I'm sort of surprised that mills and such can move it around so easily given that reason why the nasty Chicom bug that is killing the ash came in with crating materials. Maybe the fed and state brian trusts have figured out that the EAB only actually likes ash and almost all U.S. ash is now exposed to the vermin so why not just go at it with some sort of lumber use.

I know around here, I still see stickers on camp fire bundles that state they are either ash free or the ash has been shown to be EAB free. A lot of our camp fire bundles come over from Minnesota. There is really no lumber or other milling in South Dakota (except maybe some still in small shops in the Black Hills). Most of the cut down ash here end up as chipped compost.


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Re: Using ash wood for 2x4 [Re: NonPCfed] #8317661
01/20/25 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by NonPCfed
I'm sort of surprised that mills and such can move it around so easily given that reason why the nasty Chicom bug that is killing the ash came in with crating materials. Maybe the fed and state brian trusts have figured out that the EAB only actually likes ash and almost all U.S. ash is now exposed to the vermin so why not just go at it with some sort of lumber use.

I know around here, I still see stickers on camp fire bundles that state they are either ash free or the ash has been shown to be EAB free. A lot of our camp fire bundles come over from Minnesota. There is really no lumber or other milling in South Dakota (except maybe some still in small shops in the Black Hills). Most of the cut down ash here end up as chipped compost.

Feds deregulated it, MN is still trying to control the spread but the area infested is growing rapidly. When the twin cities area first got hit in mn they made strict rules about moving it, as a result the wood dumps quit accepting it, the tree services then illegally started hauling it out of the containment zone to be rid of it. It's not a coincidence it spread rapidly along MN highways. The Death of all ash trees is inevitable at this point.

Re: Using ash wood for 2x4 [Re: Bob_Iowa] #8317668
01/20/25 08:46 AM
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The Death of all ash trees is inevitable at this point.


I know people who are treating their residential trees and a big private campground along I-90 got certified to treat their own trees. I read somewhere that people think the treatments will eventually fail but I haven't seen that yet here.


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Re: Using ash wood for 2x4 [Re: NonPCfed] #8317679
01/20/25 08:55 AM
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The Death of all ash trees is inevitable at this point.


I know people who are treating their residential trees and a big private campground along I-90 got certified to treat their own trees. I read somewhere that people think the treatments will eventually fail but I haven't seen that yet here.


My dad paid an arborist to treat the large ash in his yard. It delayed the inevitable by about 5 years.

Re: Using ash wood for 2x4 [Re: NonPCfed] #8317694
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Originally Posted by NonPCfed
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The Death of all ash trees is inevitable at this point.


I know people who are treating their residential trees and a big private campground along I-90 got certified to treat their own trees. I read somewhere that people think the treatments will eventually fail but I haven't seen that yet here.


Yes they can be treated. When those trees that are being treated die from borer or whatever else that's it. Borer will not go away, once the ash trees are gone the population drops but it remains in other various woody species, unfortunately you can't treat for awhile then restore the trees, it's a bad deal. I'm hoping to retire from tree care when borer is finished here, it'll make me "rich" or dead.

Re: Using ash wood for 2x4 [Re: Bob_Iowa] #8317698
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Stuff is so stringy I remember trying to split it, would grab the axe often. Made very strong planks for this reason, would bend but rarely broke on trailers. Even in storms the trucks would twist but didn’t snap off like other hardwoods.
Tough stuff.


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Re: Using ash wood for 2x4 [Re: Bob_Iowa] #8317713
01/20/25 09:26 AM
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Bundles of Ash firewood or slab wood moving around or out of MN have been kilned. No bugs survived !


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Re: Using ash wood for 2x4 [Re: Bob_Iowa] #8317717
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get it quick doesn't last long dead standing

Re: Using ash wood for 2x4 [Re: jabNE] #8317750
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Originally Posted by jabNE
Stuff is so stringy I remember trying to split it, would grab the axe often. Made very strong planks for this reason, would bend but rarely broke on trailers. Even in storms the trucks would twist but didn’t snap off like other hardwoods.
Tough stuff.



I find it VERY easy to split, especially when cold. You don't even need to stand the block up, just whack it with a maul on the end and it breaks easily. I love splitting Ash. It is probably the easiest wood there is to split.


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Re: Using ash wood for 2x4 [Re: Bob_Iowa] #8317778
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I've also always found ash easy to split. The oaks are the stringy stuff in my opinion.


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Re: Using ash wood for 2x4 [Re: Bob_Iowa] #8317800
01/20/25 10:33 AM
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Ash splits easily as does Red oak , especially in the cold .

Elm , now that is some stringy stuff to work with.


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Re: Using ash wood for 2x4 [Re: Bob_Iowa] #8317809
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The City of Denver inoculates ash trees on their property - typically along sidewalks. Each inoculated ash tree gets a yellow ribbon with the phrase “I’m a smart ash” printed on the ribbons.

Re: Using ash wood for 2x4 [Re: Bob_Iowa] #8317813
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Originally Posted by Bob_Iowa
I love burning it, it just seems to be wasteful to burn that amount, but I know sometimes it’s just best to burn.

Id burn it


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Re: Using ash wood for 2x4 [Re: Bob_Iowa] #8317865
01/20/25 11:13 AM
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The City of Denver inoculates ash trees on their property - typically along sidewalks. Each inoculated ash tree gets a yellow ribbon with the phrase “I’m a smart ash” printed on the ribbons.


HAHAHAHAHAA!!

I think City of Soo Foo officials took down all the street green ash unless a homeowner could prove the trees were being treated. I'm now awaiting the virus or bug that will take out all the "Autumn Blaze" maples (a variety of red maple I'm guessing) that people planted in the late '90s/early 2000s after the green ash lost their "chic" flavor (and before EAB's arrival here). Now planting some sort of oak, especially the goofy variety that has branches almost immediately out of the trunk, is the in rage residential street tree here.


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Re: Using ash wood for 2x4 [Re: Bob_Iowa] #8317871
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Son's father in law has two roughly 10 acre woodlots that are mostly ash. Loggers came through and took much about 5 years ago while still in decent shape. B4 they came they cut out about 30 large, tall ash20-30 inches in diameter. Those were logged and they hired a portable saw mill that could cut 20 foot boards. We cut enough at 1.25 inches thick to put new flooring in 3 of the barn mow floors so we could drive tractors in with big square bales. The guy used 10 bands to cut the wood! We drilled every nail screw in the ash! Lots left for the 3 outdoor wood burners in the family.

Bryce

Re: Using ash wood for 2x4 [Re: Bob_Iowa] #8317888
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Ash splits nice and straight so the Natives and Amish around here use it for making decorative baskets and trapping baskets.I have a lot on my property and just use it for fire wood.Makes great kindling.

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Re: Using ash wood for 2x4 [Re: Bob_Iowa] #8317904
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Almost the entire interior walls of our house is done in ash tongue and grove. Our house was built in the 60s. It looks as new as the day it was installed.


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