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Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: white marlin] #8317908
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Originally Posted by white marlin
worrying about bumpstocks is like a passenger on the Titanic complaining they don't like the music the band is playing, as the ship slips into the depths...



It's about incremental steps and the fact how all the pro gun Trump fan boys like to try to pretend his actions don't match his words. Or the biggest gun control items were not done under republicans

Currently it's been shot down as well as the brace deal and is a non issue. The issue is the blind followers willing to excuse it and /or pretend it didn't happen. O it's OK because I don't like bump stocks any way at least it was not more right! He is still a true blue pro gun guy though.

Sad so many can't just admit he is what he is has his faults/weak spots and enjoy the day.. Pretending he is something he is not and defending the actions is a wast of time. It's a great day and been 4 years delayed.

Want to keep and get lost rights back quit excusing actions when done by republicans would be a good start I think. When my kids do thing wrong I call them out on it. I guess your politicians get a pass if it's your guy. Wonder why we keep loosing rights?

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Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8317929
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President Trump took a shot to the head and is still for guns.Enough for me.


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Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8317930
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No one said such a thing on this thread, except you.

Most were very cautious and you were agreeing with them. You turned this into what it has become.


There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8317933
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So Trump did nothing and took away no rights, got it. I don't care what a politician says, I care what they do. Bump stocks are legal, why people keep bringing this up is beyond me.

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Originally Posted by hippie
No one said such a thing on this thread, except you.

Most were very cautious and you were agreeing with them. You turned this into what it has become.


Sorry I'm a no compromise individual. And yes I saw a few blind Trump post. Those optimistic but with reservations I respect. The others I asume6 may have not been pay attention or forgot.

Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Rat Masterson] #8317943
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Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
So Trump did nothing and took away no rights, got it. I don't care what a politician says, I care what they do. Bump stocks are legal, why people keep bringing this up is beyond me.


No Trump did take them away the courts gave it back. See the difference. Government worked the way it was designed for once. The kicker Is it was shot down due to Trumps judges.

The point is he should not be believed Because of his actions.

Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Providence Farm] #8317944
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Originally Posted by hippie
No one said such a thing on this thread, except you.

Most were very cautious and you were agreeing with them. You turned this into what it has become.


Sorry I'm a no compromise individual. And yes I saw a few blind Trump post. Those optimistic but with reservations I respect. The others I asume6 may have not been pay attention or forgot.


"Wisdom becomes nonsense in the mouth of a fanatic." -Otto Schuwdrmer

where is your vitriol for your union leaders...THEY compromise.

and I dare say that you most likely compromise with your wife, so...

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Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Bruce T] #8317945
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Originally Posted by Bruce T
President Trump took a shot to the head and is still for guns.Enough for me.


Hopefully he has better advisers this go around fingers crossed!!

Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Providence Farm] #8317947
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Originally Posted by hippie
No one said such a thing on this thread, except you.

Most were very cautious and you were agreeing with them. You turned this into what it has become.


Sorry I'm a no compromise individual. And yes I saw a few blind Trump post. Those optimistic but with reservations I respect. The others I asume6 may have not been pay attention or forgot.

I will take President Trump the way he is.The good,the ugly,the bad.The good far out weighs the other two by far.


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That's different White Marlin, he just funds them with money.


There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8317954
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apparently his "No Compromise!" position is situational...

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And there it is White Marlin the a deflect from the topic and attempt to avoid facts and switch to personal.
And Bruce with he is better than the other guys so I will over look the weak spots.

Thanks for making my points perfect for me.

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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
And there it is White Marlin the a deflect from the topic and attempt to avoid facts and switch to personal.
And Bruce with he is better than the other guys so I will over look the weak spots.

Thanks for making my points perfect for me.


You wanted to throw stones, don't be surprised when some come back your way.


There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8317964
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PF, you hold yourself up as the epitome of self-righteousness on this topic; so you open yourself up to scrutiny.

too bad your excuses don't hold up to logic.

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Originally Posted by hippie
Originally Posted by Providence Farm
And there it is White Marlin the a deflect from the topic and attempt to avoid facts and switch to personal.
And Bruce with he is better than the other guys so I will over look the weak spots.

Thanks for making my points perfect for me.


You wanted to throw stones, don't be surprised when some come back your way.


I'm not concerned. When people have no way to counter logically they tent to deflect and move to personal attacks. It's expected.

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Originally Posted by white marlin
PF, you hold yourself up as the epitome of self-righteousness on this topic; so you open yourself up to scrutiny.

too bad your excuses don't hold up to logic.


Been through the union stuff several times If you missed it cool but since you bring it up I must assume you haven't. So either you have a serious reading comprehension problem( I highly doubt) or you just can't support your stance on merit(my belief) so you changed tactics.

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WHO said "I'm a no compromise guy" as your excuse for dumping on Trump???

oops! I gave away the answer!

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Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: hippie] #8317977
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Originally Posted by hippie
Originally Posted by Providence Farm
And there it is White Marlin the a deflect from the topic and attempt to avoid facts and switch to personal.
And Bruce with he is better than the other guys so I will over look the weak spots.

Thanks for making my points perfect for me.


You wanted to throw stones, don't be surprised when some come back your way.

Actually I look at the over all good of President Trump.The man is head and shoulders above everybody else.To me they are not weak spots at all.


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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Originally Posted by white marlin
PF, you hold yourself up as the epitome of self-righteousness on this topic; so you open yourself up to scrutiny.

too bad your excuses don't hold up to logic.


Been through the union stuff several times If you missed it cool but since you bring it up I must assume you haven't. So either you have a serious reading comprehension problem( I highly doubt) or you just can't support your stance on merit(my belief) so you changed tactics.


Like you don't repeat on every 2a thread?


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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
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So what did Trump take away as far as guns.


He is responsible for the bump stock ban the directly infl the atf to go after pistol braces. Both eventually got shot down and a log of people did get to register sbrs for free.

Some will make every excuse to absolve Trumps actions. like he knew it would not sta d or he stopped if from going to congress and passed into law. And they are ultimately correct those things happened.

But I don't buy for a sec it was planed like that. Why because of his " take the guns first due process latter" and I don't like the idea of them" referring to suppressors.. Those two things show he doesn't care or understand our rights.


Bump stocks and pistol braces are NOT 2A issues. They are commerce issues.

Let's say cars are a constitutional right. Then let's say someone put NO2 on their car and killed a whole bus of kids.

As a reaction the president at the time makes NO2 illegal to own. Would that be an attack on that constitutional issue?

Now I do disagree with Trumps view on rd flag laws, but I do believe, like all presidents sometimes do, he spoke before being educated on the issue. Time will tell on this issue.

I am not disagreeing with you on not liking banning bump stocks and pistol braces, but those items have zero to do with 2A. It was low hanging easy commerce fruit to appease the emotional masses that he knew would get overturned in court. It also averted attention to an add-on and not banning of a firearm.

Trump was able to grin and say I tried, honest I tried, as the SC overturned the issue. Notice how Trump did not express his "disappointment" at the SC decision and the issue died.


How many lies will people believe before they realize their own idiocy?
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