Keith

Why is Chicago having more luck finding coyotes than I am?

Stan Ghert from Ohio State did a study on coyotes in Chicago, probably ten years ago give or take.

And found that they are living ALL over the city and surrounding area. The laws favor the coyotes.... hmmm that sounds familiar.

Years back a former trapper used cable restraints to capture yotes for a study. After study people examined yotes and collared, let go in same place captured. One interesting fact one cable was set in a Chicago park and a biker riding snagged cable on bike crank and did a header... LOL !

About 40 years ago I was working with a friend in Albany New York and we saw coyotes up there hunting in the daylight.

Lincoln NE has coyotes in the city. They go wherever they can make a living.

because they let them go let them grow for 30 years and now are dealing with an epidemic

my kids in MKE saw a coyote running down the street just off MKL drive last week so following the river at that point basically

not just CHI and MKE an LA issue also
https://www.theguardian.com/environ...one-fifth-of-coyotes-diet-in-los-angeles

Saw some through the open overhead door behind home depot in Clarksville IN. Daylight and they didn't have a care in the world were 30 yards away in the grass 5 yards from the brush grown up along the fence and drainage area. Guys working there made it seem like they were there daily.

Wife and kids were in Evansville IN in a nice older established neibohood in a friend's driveway when a red fox came walking down the road.

I shot coon and opossum with my .20ca airgun as a teen at one of my dad's houses in the rougher downtown area of old shotgun houses. City boy father of mine shot a opossum with his 38 there also. He is not a good shot and shot several times. He Got a ticket for that dumb move.


some of the best rabbit hunting/trapping is in town in indust areas and around businesses like Walmart areas. Naturally predators follow.

So that coyote that they captured in an Aldi in Chicago was released? That would not happen here in central Pa!!!

I remember hearing that the road killed coyotes in Chicago died from being slowed down from heartworms. Maybe that is the case everywhere.

about 10 years ago my home down was getting a lot of fox , got so bad the school board hired my dads neighbor who is a trapper to trap fox all summer while school was out ,had to be all cage traps , he got quite a few

my grandpa was alive then and on his morning walks at 4-5am he tracked the fox back to the old mill along the RR tracks they had dens under the broken concrete

they since leveled that area and put up apartments

it is a cycle , get rid of the feral cats , get a glut of rabbits , 2 in every yard , then the fox move in and get the rabbits back in order.because the coyote are too much competition outside of town

How Ironic. 5 years ago or so:
I own a home in a suburb outside of Minneapolis, and the home sits on a country club. The city and the club went together to bring in an “expert” on coyote control as that city and club are dealing with an explosion of coyotes and missing pets.

I had spoken to the club previously and offered to take care of things for the most part on their property at least, but they declined. I went to the meeting and sure enough there was a woman with all kinds of capital letters behind her name from Chicago. She went to great lengths to bloviate about great work she and her people do in Chicago to control coyotes. Most importantly, YOU MUST NOT KILL THEM. You see for every one you kill/remove according to her, 2.6 more will take its place. Interesting number, it stuck with me.

I asked at this big meeting, what if in the winter I remove a breeding female, aren’t I removing that many more pups to be? Wow did I get a convoluted answer. After nearly ten minutes of her nonsensical explanation I gave up and soon left.

I kind of wondered while driving away why then the need to overly protect wolves, very similar apex predators? If you kill one wolf you get 2.6 more no?

Osky

because , her definition of management is she keeps getting a pay check , year after year after year

always follow the money

They are probably great for these urban areas, eating rats and stray cats. Probably keep disease risk down

Ghert's study was very interesting. I don't know if it can be found online, I got paper copy from him when it came out.

Basically they behave like country coyotes. But they don't leave the city, they certainly could but they don't. He said as far as territory they act like country coyotes, some maintain a territory and some are transients.

I got to meet him at a seminar he was doing in Ohio, very interesting and informative guy.

Later on he did studies on rural coyotes in Ohio.

This it?

That's the guy, I misspelled his name it's been a while since I met him.

There's interesting information about territories and other behaviors in his work.