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Re: No more US income tax. [Re: Tommyran] #8327141
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Originally Posted by Tommyran
Originally Posted by KeithC
President Donald Trump is talking about abolishing Federal Income Tax.

I see benefits and disadvantages from doing so.

What do you think?

Keith


The man is insane.

Why? taxes are not a necessity. There are ways to fund things we need, I can get behind a use tax if done right. What is going on now is nothing but criminal.

Re: No more US income tax. [Re: KeithC] #8327144
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Just paid my taxes in a very rural county, limited services, 9500.00 on house, farm buildings and 200 acres.

Re: No more US income tax. [Re: Diggerman] #8327148
01/29/25 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Diggerman
Just paid my taxes in a very rural county, limited services, 9500.00 on house, farm buildings and 200 acres.

Dang shocked


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Re: No more US income tax. [Re: KeithC] #8327151
01/29/25 05:45 PM
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Re: No more US income tax. [Re: Diggerman] #8327156
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Originally Posted by Diggerman
Just paid my taxes in a very rural county, limited services, 9500.00 on house, farm buildings and 200 acres.



I'm half the land and just a little higher. So roughly 41k between payroll taxes and property. Now add in sales tax, license plates, permits, gas tax, and the rest its well over 50k a year in taxes. or about 1/3rd of my income.

And we don't get any benefits from property taxes other than the roads cleaned off in the winter. emergency services in rual areas are a joke, don't use the schools but still spend thousands on curriculum each year homeschooling the kids. We don't use government homeschooling programs.

I have no problems paying taxes when they are reasonable and not wasted and beneficial. That's far from what we have today.

Re: No more US income tax. [Re: KeithC] #8327167
01/29/25 06:05 PM
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Nice bunch of fox squirrels.Congrats


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Re: No more US income tax. [Re: Larry Baer] #8327170
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Re: No more US income tax. [Re: Tommyran] #8327207
01/29/25 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Tommyran
Originally Posted by KeithC
President Donald Trump is talking about abolishing Federal Income Tax.

I see benefits and disadvantages from doing so.

What do you think?

Keith


The man is insane.

You shouldn't benefit from any of his positives he's doing for this country since you talk so bad about him.

Re: No more US income tax. [Re: KeithC] #8327212
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Yep insane with making this country great again.....MAGA


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Re: No more US income tax. [Re: KeithC] #8327214
01/29/25 07:23 PM
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You guys cant actually believe that a Country can exist (during these times), without taxes to drive the infrastructure required to sustain the population of the United Sates?
I like trump, but you fan boys need to have the ability to look at the bigger picture. A 1% drop would be a win.

Re: No more US income tax. [Re: Saskquatch] #8327218
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Originally Posted by Saskquatch
You guys cant actually believe that a Country can exist (during these times), without taxes to drive the infrastructure required to sustain the population of the United Sates?
I like trump, but you fan boys need to have the ability to look at the bigger picture. A 1% drop would be a win.

You envious grin


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Re: No more US income tax. [Re: KeithC] #8327219
01/29/25 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Tommyran


I'm on 1/4 acre in a 3 bedroom/1 bath ranch and just paid $3,100+ property tax. 49% of my town is tax exempt. (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) churches and schools kill us.


The church is 49% of your tax base? Ya'll have some serious problems.

Re: No more US income tax. [Re: KeithC] #8327221
01/29/25 07:35 PM
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Here in ohio they just increased our taxes. Almost 6k for a house on 35 acres.


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Re: No more US income tax. [Re: BandB] #8327222
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Originally Posted by BandB
Originally Posted by Tommyran


I'm on 1/4 acre in a 3 bedroom/1 bath ranch and just paid $3,100+ property tax. 49% of my town is tax exempt. (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) churches and schools kill us.


The church is 49% of your tax base? Ya'll have some serious problems.

My Chatholic church is paid by members donations.


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Re: No more US income tax. [Re: KeithC] #8327224
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We had roads, bridges, schools, an army, navy, marines, and coast guard... All before the federal income tax.

I also don't understand why in the age of the internet we are still constructing brick and mortar buildings... Filling them with desks, lockers, textbooks, heat/ac units, paying janitors and maintenance personnel, and buying multiple buses/school vehicles, and paying ungodly salaries for superintendents and principals... Not to mention the athletic stadiums with bleachers, scoreboards, and all that garbage.

Now, I don't believe there is a way to have public education without having some way to pay for it... But we could eliminate millions/billions in worthless overhead... This isn't 1950 anymore. We can find a more cost effective way to do it with the tools we have.

But I can guarantee you someone will chime in and whine that without a building to send their kids to, there will be no one to watch them because both parents work. Well, boo-hoo. I guess I'm supposed to keep paying more and more taxes to support your public daycare.

My wife is actually mayor of our town. And after seeing all the shenanigans that happen at the local level... Corruption, waste, downright theft... I can only imagine what goes on in the den of vipers in DC where they're thousands of miles away from their constituents and answer only to themselves.

But go ahead and believe that sending the same amount, or more, in taxes to these clowns is going to fix anything.

Slash it down to bare bones.

Mike


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Re: No more US income tax. [Re: Bruce T] #8327236
01/29/25 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Bruce T
Yep insane with making this country great again.....MAGA

Amen to that


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Re: No more US income tax. [Re: KeithC] #8327239
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one benefit that will be overlooked if this happens big if even on no overtime tax. Is people will be able to do more Roth conversations from their 401. either larger amounts chunking with no taxes on ot or all at once if it's no income taxes.

But then wait what would be the point of converting if there is no income tax would that mean no taxes on 401 that was tax deferred? Hmm somethings to wonder about.

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Re: No more US income tax. [Re: KeithC] #8327246
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"State Pension Liabilities
State pension liabilities across the United States are a significant concern, with nearly $7 trillion in unfunded pension liabilities reported as of 2023. According to the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC), these liabilities pose serious risks to state finances. The liabilities average nearly $21,000 per person nationwide."

Good luck getting out of these!


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Re: No more US income tax. [Re: Saskquatch] #8327250
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Originally Posted by Saskquatch
You guys cant actually believe that a Country can exist (during these times), without taxes to drive the infrastructure required to sustain the population of the United Sates?
I like trump, but you fan boys need to have the ability to look at the bigger picture. A 1% drop would be a win.


I actually believe they can run this country on waaaaay less than they are now. Can’t hurt to try some major, radical tax reform imo.

Re: No more US income tax. [Re: Bruce T] #8327253
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Originally Posted by Bruce T
Originally Posted by Saskquatch
You guys cant actually believe that a Country can exist (during these times), without taxes to drive the infrastructure required to sustain the population of the United Sates?
I like trump, but you fan boys need to have the ability to look at the bigger picture. A 1% drop would be a win.

You envious grin

After seeing property taxes posted here I’m going to guess he’s not. Your state taxes beat the creep out of our provincial ones though, federal about the same for my tax bracket.

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