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Henry Semi Homesteader 9mm #8327889
01/30/25 05:17 PM
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This looks like a pretty neat little rifle? Curious to those who have it , how do you like it?

https://www.henryusa.com/rifles/homesteader-9mm/

Re: Henry Semi Homesteader 9mm [Re: andrews1958] #8327892
01/30/25 05:20 PM
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Marlin tried it with the "Camp 9" and "Camp 45" but they didn't sell well.


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Re: Henry Semi Homesteader 9mm [Re: andrews1958] #8327900
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like most Henry's , kinda heavy for what it is....

Re: Henry Semi Homesteader 9mm [Re: andrews1958] #8327923
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I wish they would make one in 5.7×28, instead of that round being caught up in the tactical, plastic gun limbo.


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Re: Henry Semi Homesteader 9mm [Re: 160user] #8327927
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Originally Posted by 160user
Marlin tried it with the "Camp 9" and "Camp 45" but they didn't sell well.

the market is totally changed since the camp 9 days

from 89 to 99 you could buy an SKS for 70-125 dollars and ammo at 6-12 cents a round

and it was so plentiful

more places outside to shoot

so a more expensive gun that took more expensive ammo that was basically a range toy most of the time didn't sell as well.

we are in a very different time now , lots of PCCs doing very well

lots more indoor places to shoot that will not allow rifle calibers and you are looking at 40-50 cents a round for even cheap blaster ammo for a rifle in 7.62x39
where if you catch a sale 26 cents a round on 9mm
order it in bulk 22 cents a round

and the gun prices are comprable or even a little less on some of the pcc


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Re: Henry Semi Homesteader 9mm [Re: andrews1958] #8327936
01/30/25 06:32 PM
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If I buy a new lever action long gun it will be in a big boy cartridge.

Re: Henry Semi Homesteader 9mm [Re: andrews1958] #8327988
01/30/25 07:33 PM
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To me, it's very ugly. Aside from that, I wonder the range it would have with any accuracy. Could you hit a coyote sized target at 100 yards and would it have any energy left?

Re: Henry Semi Homesteader 9mm [Re: andrews1958] #8328015
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Same here ADC. I would not have a use for it.


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Re: Henry Semi Homesteader 9mm [Re: ~ADC~] #8328139
01/30/25 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
To me, it's very ugly. Aside from that, I wonder the range it would have with any accuracy. Could you hit a coyote sized target at 100 yards and would it have any energy left?


I can't speak to the henry in particular I have not shot one.

I have had a couple PCC configurations based on 9mm glock mag fed AR-9 a 10.5" a 16" and my son had a 5.5" with a light weight aluminum tube to make it a total of 16 inches that was pinned and welded

what you get with the longer barrel is some more speed
going from a 4 inch barrel common pistol , to the longer barrel, there is little change between 10.5 and 16 inches because there wasn't that much powder to burn and it is mostly all burnt by 10.5" .
it is powder dependent different powders will have more or less added velocity.

but when you pick up around 250 fps from the longer barrel.
your round from the 16 inch PCC or 10.5 inch barrel braced pistol is approximately the same at 80 yards as it was at the muzzle with the 4 inch barrel.

by the way the reason for the 5.5" barrel with the aluminum tube is to keep pistol velocities for competition shooting where they set maximum velocities
that way your 9mm pistol and PCC can run the same ammo and you don't have to keep two ammos and keep them separate from each other to keep your power factors correct and no damaging targets.

so you get more out of a 9mm from a longer barrel enough so that you basically take 80 yards off the distance and you are back to the same velocity as the pistol.

So would shooting a coyote at 20 yards with your 9mm pistol be effective? I haven't done it but it should be reasonably so

as for accuracy hitting a pie plate standing with the pcc is not an issue at 100 yards I am sure it depends some on the ammo but it wasn't a problem for me to get hits.


the role of these PCC besides being fun to shoot and train with at a lower cost is that your pistol and the wife's PCC can use the same ammo and same magazine. so now you have one ammunition feeding device for both your guns , you can not only share ammo but share magazines

from henry's website
For maximum reliability, Henry recommends the use of double-stack 3rd, 4th, or 5th Gen OEM Glock® G17 or G19 magazines, OEM SIG® P320 magazines, and OEM M&P® double-stack magazines with their respective magazine well adapters.

training is great because you can shoot steel at pistol distance targets and stretch out to 100 yards and everything in between.

it isn't the most powerful thing around but it is more powerful than the 10/22 so you are talking a center fire that weights around that of a 10/22 the henry is a little more weight at 6.6 pounds

besides training it is really a inside 100 yards and closer to pistol distance tool for bump in the night type stuff where the same mag and ammo feed the carbine and the handgun.

most people can just shoot a carbine faster and with greater accuracy than a handgun
the down side is it is harder to carry a carbine than a pistol.

for people looking to have ammo and mag compatibility it is a win and great for lower cost and noise training over more traditional carbine calibers like 5.56


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Re: Henry Semi Homesteader 9mm [Re: andrews1958] #8328161
01/31/25 12:06 AM
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So you're saying, it's not going to be a good truck gun to wack an unexpected coyote that hops up then stops to look back at 95 yards? Better or worse than say an accurate .22mag??? Obviously not as good as say a .223.

Re: Henry Semi Homesteader 9mm [Re: ~ADC~] #8328178
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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
So you're saying, it's not going to be a good truck gun to wack an unexpected coyote that hops up then stops to look back at 95 yards? Better or worse than say an accurate .22mag??? Obviously not as good as say a .223.



at 95 yards
I ran the 9mm as a 124gr xtp
and the 22mag as a CCI 40gr hollow point

the 9mm will have to hold 1 1/2 inches higher to hit the same spot
the 22mag 40gr bullet will get there a little sooner but probably not enough to change anything if the coyote stopped running and looked back.
the 9mm will have more than twice the foot pounds of energy arriving on target compared to the 22mag it is just a lot more weight with a better BC.

if the coyote is standing broad side I would expect you punch through an exit hole with the 9mm
if you hit bone with the 9mm I expect it to break and still go deep

where I see the 9mm having issues is less at 95 yards and more at 125 because it does start dropping fast


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Re: Henry Semi Homesteader 9mm [Re: andrews1958] #8328181
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Probably fun to shoot, but for any practical use an actual rifle is better and you can use a short barrel if "handiness" is the need

Re: Henry Semi Homesteader 9mm [Re: andrews1958] #8328406
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it definitely isn't really a hunting rifle or going to do rifle things like a 223/5.56 or 308

but as a compliment to a pistol that it can share magazines and ammo with


you guys think like hunters and trappers you are going to have a rifle , shotgun and 22 before you have a drivers license.

think like city folks that just moved to their 10 acres , he has his Glock and they need something for a little more range but are not really pursuing any sort of larger game , so they have 9mm , they have G19 mags , they want to enjoy some training and target shooting. they may even want to suppress it as to not make a ruckus

then it isn't a bad option


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Re: Henry Semi Homesteader 9mm [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #8328411
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Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
it definitely isn't really a hunting rifle or going to do rifle things like a 223/5.56 or 308

but as a compliment to a pistol that it can share magazines and ammo with


you guys think like hunters and trappers you are going to have a rifle , shotgun and 22 before you have a drivers license.

think like city folks that just moved to their 10 acres , he has his Glock and they need something for a little more range but are not really pursuing any sort of larger game , so they have 9mm , they have G19 mags , they want to enjoy some training and target shooting. they may even want to suppress it as to not make a ruckus

then it isn't a bad option

Very true GCP


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Re: Henry Semi Homesteader 9mm [Re: andrews1958] #8328428
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If you want a 9mm rifle that shares a pistols magazine, I'd rather have the KelTech 2000, light foldable, and good to 100 yds.
If you just want to plink and play, just get a 22

Re: Henry Semi Homesteader 9mm [Re: gcs] #8328442
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Originally Posted by gcs
If you want a 9mm rifle that shares a pistols magazine, I'd rather have the KelTech 2000, light foldable, and good to 100 yds.
If you just want to plink and play, just get a 22


and that will get you Glock mags

but not Sig P320 or S&W M&P

there are a lot of people who just do not find a Glock fits them well so this gives the other options

it also has that more traditional look face it some people care about how something looks , it isn't a evil gun if it has walnut after all , then it is a tool of modern rural living.

remember the target market are the folks who just moved to that 10 acres they bought during covid so they could get out of the city/burbs and have their picturesque country life.


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Re: Henry Semi Homesteader 9mm [Re: andrews1958] #8328474
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Your right I just checked, only Glock mags, but when they first came out I'm pretty sure they had models for the main 3 magazines....unless I misremembered, lol

Re: Henry Semi Homesteader 9mm [Re: gcs] #8328481
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Originally Posted by gcs
Your right I just checked, only Glock mags, but when they first came out I'm pretty sure they had models for the main 3 magazines....unless I misremembered, lol

I think early sub 2K had a S&W model 59 mag then they made glock and with the 59 falling out of use it went away

Sig really nails you on mags , you can change grip modules for like 65 dollars then if you need the longer mag or shorter mag they get you 50 dollars each


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Re: Henry Semi Homesteader 9mm [Re: andrews1958] #8328489
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I'd buy one. I like the "BAR" look, and 1-10" should do well with cast bullets. Blow backs tend to be dirty shooting, but load tailoring should take care of some of that. MSRP is pretty high, but 6.7 lbs doesn't seem to bad for a Henry.


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Re: Henry Semi Homesteader 9mm [Re: andrews1958] #8328494
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I'll be looking for a compact 9mm soon, 3 1/2 -4" bbl... like a glock 19 but probably not a glock.... Nothing fancy, just needs to go bang every time, all the time....any suggestions GCP or others"?

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