No Profanity *** No Flaming *** No Advertising *** No Anti Trappers ***NO POLITICS
No Non-Target Catches *** No Links to Anti-trapping Sites *** No Avoiding Profanity Filter


Home~Trap Talk~ADC Forum~Trap Shed~Wilderness Trapping~International Trappers~Fur Handling

Auction Forum~Trapper Tips~Links~Gallery~Basic Sets~Convention Calendar~Chat~ Trap Collecting Forum

Trapper's Humor~Strictly Trapping~Fur Buyers Directory~Mugshots~Fur Sale Directory~Wildcrafting~The Pen and Quill

Trapper's Tales~Words From The Past~Legends~Archives~Kids Forum~Lure Formulators Forum~ Fermenter's Forum


~~~ Dobbins' Products Catalog ~~~


Minnesota Trapline Products
Please support our sponsor for the Trappers Talk Page - Minnesota Trapline Products


Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3
Direct injection #8341411
02/13/25 08:13 PM
02/13/25 08:13 PM
Joined: Jan 2016
WI - Wisconsin
A
AJE Offline OP
trapper
AJE  Offline OP
trapper
A

Joined: Jan 2016
WI - Wisconsin
Has anyone heard of (or experienced) this issue w/ trucks newer than 2014 pertaining to people that don't drive it much?: I have had a '24 half ton for 12 months & have been having a problem. I have 3,420 miles on it. I drive it 9 miles daily (round trip) to work & that's about it. ~6 times in the past year I have driven it to a nearby town about 15-30 minutes away, otherwise it's just to/from work. I live a couple miles from town & only have 2 stop lights on my 4 1/2 mile commute. It rarely gets much above 50 MPH for > than a minute. I 1st noticed the issue a few months ago when the check engine light came on & it said something about rich fuel. The engine light went off on it's own later that day, but the MPG got progressively worse the past several months, causing frustration that some friends blamed on it being winter, unbroken in & a lightly driven vehicle. Sunday I went to start it & the warning light was flashing & it went into reduced power mode. I didn't drive it & I called the dealer Monday & they had it towed to the shop. Monday I got an Onstar email saying the battery was concerningly low. I checked the battery & sure enough it was way low. Other than that, the sole apparent issue (other than the bad gas mileage, which is a result of the issues mentioned in this paragraph) has been gas getting into the cylinders (based on what I figured out Tuesday from the dealer). The dealer pulled the dipstick & could smell gas (& the level was high). Thus the dealer changed the oil Tuesday (after having done so only 400 miles ago). The dealer was able to get the trouble codes to go away but says the problem is 100% due to my driving style/usage. They said every 3rd day I need to start putting miles on it. Basically I learned Tuesday that I bought a truck that I can't use unless I drastically change my ways. Is it me or the truck or..? I offered to trade it in for 1 of their other makes but they said I will have this issue w/ any truck newer than '14 (when direct injection started being put in all trucks). Granted we all know short trips aren't good for vehicles, I had never heard of this issue w/ direct injection causing excess gas in the oil of vehicles. Thoughts? I'm aware it's winter (cold), but there must be some folks out there that drive like I do. Thanks

Last edited by AJE; 02/13/25 08:41 PM.
Re: Direct injection [Re: AJE] #8341426
02/13/25 08:35 PM
02/13/25 08:35 PM
Joined: Jan 2019
North central Iowa
B
Bob_Iowa Offline
trapper
Bob_Iowa  Offline
trapper
B

Joined: Jan 2019
North central Iowa
I’m guessing it’s messing with an o2 sensor by idling around.

Re: Direct injection [Re: AJE] #8341438
02/13/25 08:43 PM
02/13/25 08:43 PM
Joined: Jan 2016
WI - Wisconsin
A
AJE Offline OP
trapper
AJE  Offline OP
trapper
A

Joined: Jan 2016
WI - Wisconsin
I don't let it idle more than about the time it takes me to put on my hat/gloves & remove the windshield cover.

I should have mentioned that at least once/week I drive it to my neighbors house, less than 1/2 mile away.

Last edited by AJE; 02/13/25 08:44 PM.
Re: Direct injection [Re: AJE] #8341441
02/13/25 08:46 PM
02/13/25 08:46 PM
Joined: Jan 2019
North central Iowa
B
Bob_Iowa Offline
trapper
Bob_Iowa  Offline
trapper
B

Joined: Jan 2019
North central Iowa
The thing is your not driving hard to heat the o2 sensor up to keep it clean, or there’s an exhaust leak so there’s too much oxygen in the exhaust and it’s adding gas to compensate.

Re: Direct injection [Re: AJE] #8341456
02/13/25 08:56 PM
02/13/25 08:56 PM
Joined: Jan 2016
WI - Wisconsin
A
AJE Offline OP
trapper
AJE  Offline OP
trapper
A

Joined: Jan 2016
WI - Wisconsin
Hmmm.. I hadn't thought of that.

Re: Direct injection [Re: AJE] #8341500
02/13/25 09:29 PM
02/13/25 09:29 PM
Joined: Jan 2011
Southeast KY
K
K91773 Offline
trapper
K91773  Offline
trapper
K

Joined: Jan 2011
Southeast KY
You need to take that truck out and let it get up to operating temperature and maintain highway speeds for a half hour or so, with all the sensors and everything on them now you can't drive them the way you are, you are destroying your truck by babying it. As the old timers around here used to say you have to blow the soot out of them every now and then, what they meant was every now and then you need to stomp that accelerator when you start and get up to highway speed as fast as possible to clean out the particulate in the engine and exhaust. I seriously doubt that most days your truck ever gets to operating temperature before you shut it down.

Re: Direct injection [Re: AJE] #8341513
02/13/25 09:36 PM
02/13/25 09:36 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Minnesota
330-Trapper Offline

trapper
330-Trapper  Offline

trapper

Joined: Dec 2006
Minnesota
With your battery low

You're not running it long enough for the alternator to charge the battery.

More starts than miles.


NRA and NTA Life Member
www.BackroadsRevised@etsy.com




Re: Direct injection [Re: AJE] #8341522
02/13/25 09:41 PM
02/13/25 09:41 PM
Joined: Jan 2016
WI - Wisconsin
A
AJE Offline OP
trapper
AJE  Offline OP
trapper
A

Joined: Jan 2016
WI - Wisconsin
I'm thinking you are onto something K9.


2 nights ago I started plugging in the block heater w/ a timer set to come on ~4 1/2 hrs before I head to work.

Also, I put cardboard on the grill Tuesday night (but then Wed my co-worker said my truck has automated louvers so I should remove the cardboard winter grille front).


I'm trying to get this figured out before I do long term damage.


Those of you that plan on upgrading to a truck 2014 or newer for you or a family member (or as a 2nd vehicle) that don't drive much might want to follow this thread & learn so you don't run into this issue that is bogging me down.

Last edited by AJE; 02/13/25 11:14 PM.
Re: Direct injection [Re: AJE] #8341525
02/13/25 09:43 PM
02/13/25 09:43 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
williamsburg ks
D
danny clifton Online content
"Grumpy Old Man"
danny clifton  Online Content
"Grumpy Old Man"
D

Joined: Dec 2006
williamsburg ks
3 miles each way you need a bicycle. 20 minutes easy. drive the truck when you need to go somewhere.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Direct injection [Re: AJE] #8341533
02/13/25 09:49 PM
02/13/25 09:49 PM
Joined: Mar 2023
WI
WI Outdoors Offline
trapper
WI Outdoors  Offline
trapper

Joined: Mar 2023
WI
Direct injection sucks. The fuel doesn't wash the intake valves like an older engine. That causes lots of carbon build up. Newer trucks suck unless you can afford to trade em in every 3 or 4 years.

Re: Direct injection [Re: AJE] #8341553
02/13/25 10:02 PM
02/13/25 10:02 PM
Joined: Nov 2018
Mo
T
Trapper5123 Offline
trapper
Trapper5123  Offline
trapper
T

Joined: Nov 2018
Mo
What brand and engine?

Re: Direct injection [Re: AJE] #8341562
02/13/25 10:08 PM
02/13/25 10:08 PM
Joined: Feb 2014
Ky
J
jbyrd63 Offline
trapper
jbyrd63  Offline
trapper
J

Joined: Feb 2014
Ky
Rev it up to about 4500 rpm for 3 minutes before you shut it off. Let it idle down then shut it off. If it has auto start on it turn it off each time you use it.

Re: Direct injection [Re: AJE] #8341583
02/13/25 10:30 PM
02/13/25 10:30 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Pa
W
Wright Brothers Offline
trapper
Wright Brothers  Offline
trapper
W

Joined: Dec 2006
Pa
I'd burn or syphon the stale fuel out.
A trap line comes to mind.
If no help, burn that novel you typed and see
a different dealer. Tell them it's not right and that's all.
If they say blah blah tell them you want it gone.
You did not pay all this to drive a turd.

Dang puter sensored bleep bleeps lol.
Stale fuel.





Re: Direct injection [Re: AJE] #8341587
02/13/25 10:38 PM
02/13/25 10:38 PM
Joined: Feb 2008
WI
B
BvrRetriever Offline
trapper
BvrRetriever  Offline
trapper
B

Joined: Feb 2008
WI
Doesn’t it have a warranty? Running a vehicle with gas in the oil is like running honing oil.

Re: Direct injection [Re: AJE] #8341588
02/13/25 10:40 PM
02/13/25 10:40 PM
Joined: May 2022
Pennsylvania
R
RegularJoe Offline
trapper
RegularJoe  Offline
trapper
R

Joined: May 2022
Pennsylvania
Buy a hybrid and sell your truck. You would do better with an old beater even. 3,500 miles a year the truck is like mouse trapping with double longsprings.

Re: Direct injection [Re: AJE] #8341589
02/13/25 10:41 PM
02/13/25 10:41 PM
Joined: Nov 2018
Mo
T
Trapper5123 Offline
trapper
Trapper5123  Offline
trapper
T

Joined: Nov 2018
Mo
Fifth of whiskey and a blacktop middle of the no where road. Drive it like you stole it and seat the rings.

Re: Direct injection [Re: Trapper5123] #8341592
02/13/25 10:49 PM
02/13/25 10:49 PM
Joined: May 2022
Pennsylvania
R
RegularJoe Offline
trapper
RegularJoe  Offline
trapper
R

Joined: May 2022
Pennsylvania
Originally Posted by Trapper5123
Fifth of whiskey and a blacktop middle of the no where road. Drive it like you stole it and seat the rings.


Exactly!

Re: Direct injection [Re: Trapper5123] #8341598
02/13/25 10:54 PM
02/13/25 10:54 PM
Joined: Dec 2011
ND
grumley701 Offline
trapper
grumley701  Offline
trapper

Joined: Dec 2011
ND
Originally Posted by Trapper5123
Fifth of whiskey and a blacktop middle of the no where road. Drive it like you stole it and seat the rings.


Drive it like you stole it was never an induced state of mind for me.. laugh


Pure Blood
Re: Direct injection [Re: Trapper5123] #8341610
02/13/25 11:03 PM
02/13/25 11:03 PM
Joined: Jan 2016
WI - Wisconsin
A
AJE Offline OP
trapper
AJE  Offline OP
trapper
A

Joined: Jan 2016
WI - Wisconsin
Originally Posted by Trapper5123
What brand and engine?

Silverado 1500 2.7L Turbo.

I asked the dealer about trading it in for a different model GM too, and they said direct injection as it relates to my driving style is the issue, nothing to do w/ the model or engine type they said. Note: this dealer sells new Rams, Ford & Chevrolet. Large, established reputable dealership. That said, I'm not saying any dealer is perfect. I would be open to having another dealer look at it if the Check Engine light returns. I'm trying to change my driving style to avoid future problems.

Last edited by AJE; 02/13/25 11:24 PM.
Re: Direct injection [Re: BvrRetriever] #8341612
02/13/25 11:05 PM
02/13/25 11:05 PM
Joined: Jan 2016
WI - Wisconsin
A
AJE Offline OP
trapper
AJE  Offline OP
trapper
A

Joined: Jan 2016
WI - Wisconsin
Originally Posted by BvrRetriever
Doesn’t it have a warranty?

Yes, I was able to get the warranty to cover it.

Actually, it has a Lifetime engine warranty.

Last edited by AJE; 02/13/25 11:22 PM.
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread