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Re: $500 plus average on cats [Re: wallfur] #8342476
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Originally Posted by wallfur
fallon will be interesting this week 1 buyer bought the mojority of the cats at utah.


Do you know who the buyer was?

Re: $500 plus average on cats [Re: foxhunter52] #8342488
02/14/25 10:46 PM
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On thing about book auctions, No one every knows what the second and third average was. Thats what tells the story!






Re: $500 plus average on cats [Re: foxhunter52] #8342553
02/15/25 01:03 AM
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yeah it does tell the story... like i said going to get interesting in nevada. i think utah will be a higher cat average but we will see just depends on which buyers show up every sale is differant.

Re: $500 plus average on cats [Re: Lazarus] #8342555
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Originally Posted by Lazarus
Nevada Trappers Association 2013 sale, the average was $657.

I averaged over 650 one year at NAFA. Might have been 2013 but I thought it was longer ago than that.

Re: $500 plus average on cats [Re: bearcat2] #8342557
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2013 was crazy. Trapping for a big sheep outfit and I only had 6 cats that year.
I sold them to a young ambitious buyer and averaged $950 .
He over paid that year I believe and got himself a little to far under water and quit buying.

Re: $500 plus average on cats [Re: foxhunter52] #8342608
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Cat averages are kind of misleading oftentimes, unless you have a lot of cats. Look at the spread on the Utah sale, 1500-8 from high cat to low cat. At that kind of difference one real good cat or one real bad cat can really skew your average. Still something to look at, but sellers need to realize that if they don't have just what the buyers are looking for, one or two more poor cats than average in your lot is really going to tank your average. Conversely, if you happen to have a top lot cat, realize that they are often paying ridiculous prices for that cat as an advertising ploy, fur value of the cat isn't worth that, but value of being able to advertise that you bought the top cat at the Utah, Nevada, Idaho, Oregon, etc. sales is. So be happy and proud when you sell that cat, but when someone says so and so had the top cat and they averaged $XXX I want to know how many cats they had, and what the average was when you take out the top cat, because chances are that cat is going to seriously skew their average upwards.

Re: $500 plus average on cats [Re: foxhunter52] #8342611
02/15/25 08:17 AM
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Well said bearcat2 and quite factual.

Re: $500 plus average on cats [Re: foxhunter52] #8342621
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AZ and CO cage only. CA shut down. NM no blm trapping. UT has a five cat limit. Folks in UT buying license for family members but production still not high. The number of western cats produced has declined. Still the only spotted animal legal to market. I think it will get even better.


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Re: $500 plus average on cats [Re: danny clifton] #8342624
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
AZ and CO cage only. CA shut down. NM no blm trapping. UT has a five cat limit. Folks in UT buying license for family members but production still not high. The number of western cats produced has declined. Still the only spotted animal legal to market. I think it will get even better.

Arizonia is not cage only.Footholds are allowed on private land.I will take almost $600 average for bobcats.

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Re: $500 plus average on cats [Re: foxhunter52] #8342629
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Well take a trip to AZ. Get permissions. Tell us how that works for you.


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Re: $500 plus average on cats [Re: danny clifton] #8342633
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Well take a trip to AZ. Get permissions. Tell us how that works for you.

Have family and friends plus alot of ranchers want coyotes and bobcats trapped off their land.


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Re: $500 plus average on cats [Re: foxhunter52] #8342820
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I've heard it said that there are maybe only 10 or less great top lot cats caught in the west on an annual basis. Those cats likely end up in a garment that may sell for $250,000 to a rich Russian for his sweety. I don't think that the country buyer loses too much money on his "advertising".


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Re: $500 plus average on cats [Re: foxhunter52] #8342831
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During the Nevada sale in 1987 we had a $358 average on 1,050 cats. Based on the inflation calculator, they would have to be $1023 average this year to have the same buying power as 1987. Wishful thinking!!

Re: $500 plus average on cats [Re: foxhunter52] #8342834
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Re: $500 plus average on cats [Re: foxhunter52] #8342874
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We made a $446 average last year at the FHA auction and one had a tiddie belly.

Re: $500 plus average on cats [Re: bearcat2] #8344350
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79 cats at the sale sold for over $1000. I believe the average for this sale is a good representation of what guys were getting. Seems like a pretty hot market to me.

Re: $500 plus average on cats [Re: Slick Pan] #8345341
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Originally Posted by Slick Pan
Originally Posted by wallfur
fallon will be interesting this week 1 buyer bought the mojority of the cats at utah.


Do you know who the buyer was?
....yes

Re: $500 plus average on cats [Re: foxhunter52] #8345362
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I'll bet I do as well. LOL


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Re: $500 plus average on cats [Re: foxhunter52] #8345405
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Yup, be a sad day when he/they give it up.


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Re: $500 plus average on cats [Re: foxhunter52] #8345422
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Wallfur:

You don't have to disclose who the buyer was. I can find out within 5 minutes who it was so if you think your post is being smart, think again. I just simply asked rather than bother my friends who are busy right now buying fur.

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