Re: DODG Dividend proposal
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The source for your 66.3 or thereabouts number appears to be FAIR.
"WHO IS AN ILLEGAL ALIEN? An illegal alien is simply any alien who is present in the United States without legal status, like a valid visa or lawful permanent residence.
It is important to note that “legal status” is not the same as “lawful presence.” For example, recipients of deferred action, deferred enforced departure, Temporary Protected Status (TPS), or parole do not have legal status. These programs (some of which are authorized by statute, some are not) do not give illegal aliens visas or green cards. They merely defer deportation for a period of time."
Right from their website.
"Definition of ILLEGAL 2 weeks ago - The meaning of ILLEGAL is not according to or authorized by law "
Merriam- Webster
I would say these guys are a little suspect?
The number they come up with Includes Enforcement. The rest is mostly money received through social programs and education that include American recipients.
Who is John Galt?
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Re: DODG Dividend proposal
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Million here, billion there and it soon adds up.
When building racecars, you soon learn its easier to take a pound off an ounce here and there over finding one part to make a pound liter.
There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
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Re: DODG Dividend proposal
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Social Security Bad, Bad idea and program, I wish I had all the money the government took from me to put in this Social plan, I would have invested it and I would be way better off. Doge is not going to work and giving money back is a fool plan, always pay down your debt first or do not acquire debt. Im betting this year we go deeper in debt and it will be blamed on the last administration as always. Im wondering how much money we spent cutting the national Christmas tree, golfing, going to the super bowl with an all the guest, fly overs at the super bowl and indy 500. This could be said for every administration. I remember a lot of Christmas growing up and as an adult where, it was a good meal, family not gifts or trees, you dont build a addition to your home when you struggle to pay the mortgage. This type of spending has been going on for way to long with to many administrations. Solution is raise the taxes, I would be happy if there was an equitable tax for everyone billionaires, millionaires, big business and corporations, middle class and poor.
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Re: DODG Dividend proposal
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Solution is raise the taxes, I would be happy if there was an equitable tax for everyone billionaires, millionaires, big business and corporations, middle class and poor. I hope you understand that you would have to lower taxes considerably on the highest earners in order to accomplish that.
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Re: DODG Dividend proposal
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The question I have is...
Should I put what little faith I have left in folks on the internet that don't have a clue about the inner workings of our gov't, or a very successful person who is behind the inventions of not only rockets, but is the only one who catches them to save money?
If I was to bet my bottom dollar on who knows what's going on, it'd be him over the internet folks.
There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
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Re: DODG Dividend proposal
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Walmart the biggest private employer in the US Avoids of 1 Billion in taxes last year because of loopholes the Walton family richest in the US avoid 607 million last year just on their dividends for their stock holdings. Walmart corporation got over 6.2 billion last year in federal subsidies. The family also avoids 3 billion in taxes every year because of specialized trust to avoid estate taxes. Check into Walmart corporation of bid Oil companies. You have to look at taxes in a lot more aspects than a percentage paid to make it equitable stop the loopholes. if they did it legally, your beef should be with the ones who WROTE the laws. ask yourself WHY they wrote them that way...
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Re: DODG Dividend proposal
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I remember a lot of Christmas growing up and as an adult where, it was a good meal, family not gifts or trees, you dont build a addition to your home when you struggle to pay the mortgage. This type of spending has been going on for way to long with to many administrations. Solution is raise the taxes, do you even HEAR yourself?? you're contradicting yourself. [you also didn't BORROW money to build an addition when you can't pay the current mortgage; but that's what .gov does!]
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Re: DODG Dividend proposal
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Walmart the biggest private employer in the US Avoids of 1 Billion in taxes last year because of loopholes the Walton family richest in the US avoid 607 million last year just on their dividends for their stock holdings. Walmart corporation got over 6.2 billion last year in federal subsidies. The family also avoids 3 billion in taxes every year because of specialized trust to avoid estate taxes. Check into Walmart corporation of bid Oil companies. You have to look at taxes in a lot more aspects than a percentage paid to make it equitable stop the loopholes. if they did it legally, your beef should be with the ones who WROTE the laws. ask yourself WHY they wrote them that way... Careful, you don’t want him to over do it. lol
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Re: DODG Dividend proposal
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Walmart the biggest private employer in the US Avoids of 1 Billion in taxes last year because of loopholes the Walton family richest in the US avoid 607 million last year just on their dividends for their stock holdings. Walmart corporation got over 6.2 billion last year in federal subsidies. The family also avoids 3 billion in taxes every year because of specialized trust to avoid estate taxes. Check into Walmart corporation of bid Oil companies. You have to look at taxes in a lot more aspects than a percentage paid to make it equitable stop the loopholes. if they did it legally, your beef should be with the ones who WROTE the laws. ask yourself WHY they wrote them that way... It's called being educated and utilizing the tax codes. You can do the same. the tax codes favor investors, entrepreneurs, and businesses. W2 wage earners not so much.. That said look at the tax brackets. They are marginal. The more you make the more you are taxed. being married helps so does having kids. But I know the wife and kids cost a lot more than my tax breaks. Build something, invest your time blood sweat and money into starting a business with the odds very high it will fail within 5 years. Make it successful and hire people creating jobs and benefiting society. Walmart famly used the tax code to not pay taxes,wine cry without thinking about all the taxes paid not only by them but also because of them and what they provide. Going by your statement I'm guessing you have only ever worked for others
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Re: DODG Dividend proposal
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I was in agreement with white marlin you and responding to the fellow you responded to. Sorry I was not clear on that.
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Re: DODG Dividend proposal
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Walmart the biggest private employer in the US Avoids of 1 Billion in taxes last year because of loopholes the Walton family richest in the US avoid 607 million last year just on their dividends for their stock holdings. Walmart corporation got over 6.2 billion last year in federal subsidies. The family also avoids 3 billion in taxes every year because of specialized trust to avoid estate taxes. Check into Walmart corporation of bid Oil companies. You have to look at taxes in a lot more aspects than a percentage paid to make it equitable stop the loopholes. I'm no Walmart fan, but maybe rather than focusing on the taxes avoided through "loopholes" (legal tax code) maybe look at how much they do pay in taxes. And, as the biggest private employer in the US what they generate in tax revenue from all of those employees paying income taxes. Big business more than carries their weight in funding our bloated government spending.
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