Took wife into St Louis for a date and some shopping. I always try to hit up the gun shops while she is at the mall.

Found these on the shelf marked $14.98. Offered $12.50/box and bought all 8 boxes. I have used a lot of this exact ammo over the years.

The new ammo with the tungsten shot and flight control wads are nice, but I guarantee these will still do the job at 40 yards or a bit more.

Yep that's good stuff at a good price. I am kind of partial to 4 shot also.

was always a fan of winchesters 3"double XX magnums in#6 for turkey took a few out at 50yds only shot federal premium turkey loads out of the 20 gauge if anyone doubts the difference copper plated lead makes over regular lead the copper is barely ever deformed and holds a tighter pattern at longer ranges

Those 2 3/4" are a good late season pheasant load as well.

Nice find. You don't need a single $20 TSS shotgun shell to kill a turkey nowadays no matter what you see on TV or read on the internet.

Yeah, you can also catch a coyote with the cheapest coyote trap and chain too no matter what you read on the internet…

Sure can, but you can't kill them with the smaller gauges at the longer ranges like you can with TSS. Lead still kills them plenty dead... but at about half the distance. They're still in trouble when they hang up at what they think is a safe distance lol

We didn’t roll TSS way back when for distance. We rolled it because we wanted the best possible shot/pattern for the job. It’s amazing folks will buy quality ammo for their rifles for hunting and not use that cheap stuff, but when it comes to turkeys the cheapest they can fine no matter the pattern will work, lol.

Curious to see the pattern of this ammo posted. I pattern at 40yds but most shots are 25 and under. The Osceola this past Saturday was 10yds and I held off a little just to have a decent picture, lol. I know exactly what my pattern does at that distance!

Wanna Be,
I resemble that remark! I patterned my shotgun back when I bought it because I was bored once. But I shoot whatever 3 1/2"s I can find (you couldn't find a 3 1/2" turkey load in the store here for several years). I've shot Federals, Winchesters, and currently have some brand that I hadn't heard of. Usually copper plated. I'm not into to turkey hunting, they're just a stupid bird that they charge as much for a tag for as a deer and have a lot less meat on them than a deer. But I get a tag with my sportsmans package, and they do taste awfully good, so I shoot one every year to eat. I know with my shotgun with the XX full choke anything under 70 yards is a dead bird. I couldn't tell you what the pattern is doing at various ranges, but I know if I put the bead on its head at anywhere from the muzzle to 70 yards, I'm going to be breasting one out.

Don't take my post so personal there, sensitive feller. Those shells have killed turkeys just fine for many years and they don't cost an arm and a leg. That's my point.

I’ll be glad to run some through a couple of my turkey guns at 40 yards and post the result. Will be this weekend

Look forward to seeing them. And yeah, they were used for many years because that’s all there was at the time. Never got a decent pattern with any and always heard “it only takes one pellet” my entire life, lol. Wonder how many wounded birds they accounted for as well.
When I set out to use my Dads Browning he passed down for me I had to limit my shot to 20-25yds or less based on the shell/pattern I got. Anything beyond that would’ve resulted in a wounded bird.
No one ever comments about the cheapest rod, reel, and line they use for fishing.
No one ever comments about the cheapest rifle, scope, and bullets they use for big game hunting.
No one ever comments about the cheapest traps or chain they use for trapping.
No one ever comments about the cheapest bow or broadheads they use for archery hunting.
Yet for turkey hunting it’s the cheapest shells they can find despite patterns and losses, lol.

Wanna Be
This was not meant to get into an argument and I’m afraid it is headed that way. The post was meant to point out don’t overlook the older ammo especially when it is priced the same as a box of clay loads.

An acceptable pattern to me may not be viewed as acceptable to someone else.

I practice with my equipment and know their limitations and my own. Paying more doesn’t always mean better or more effective. My 870 express that I gave less than $100 for will kill a turkey just as dead as my Benelli SBE II that I gave $1300 for.

One pellet that gets sufficient penetration to engage the CNS is all that it takes to kill a turkey, but anyone who knowingly extends their range in hopes of getting that one magic pellet is not being responsible. We should all strive to make as clean and efficient kill as possible in the given situation.

This is why I don’t use a recurve bow, a flintlock rifle or black powder shotgun. I am not efficient with them. I envy those that have the skill and don’t discourage them from chasing their passion. I do frown upon those that just want to try something new and attempt to take game without first acquiring the skill needed.

I also want to apologize to everyone as I put this in the wrong forum.

No argument here, I’m just passionate about turkeys. You and I both pattern our guns to get the best possible pattern. Most don’t. I’d be willing to bet most don’t shoot to see if POA is POI or even which shells/chokes give the best patterns for ducks or doves. Most just go to Walmart or wherever and find the cheapest shells they can and go shoot.
And here’s a crazy one for you. Back when I first got into turkey hunting I was told the best shells were some Nitro shells. They were making HTL shells long before it was ever mainstream. I bought some 3.5” and went to pattern them. They shot a foot left and high out of my Benelli SBEII. Everything else shot perfect except those shells. I decided the kick alone didn’t warrant finding another choke even though that was the choke recommended.
Most mass produced TSS shells I’ve tried produce seriously blown out patterns out of my setup. Apex 3” 1 5/8oz loads produce a serious kill pattern. I want to know if something goes wrong it’s ALL shooter error and not a gun/choke/shell issue. Same with my rifles. If you or anyone else uses one of my weapons, you WILL hit exactly where you’re aiming, if not it’s not the weapons fault, lol.

Agree 100% with everything you said.

The Apex ammo is great stuff in my 16 ga.

Back in the day those shells with IC choke or even Cylinder made for a deadly wood duck shoot in the swamps, lol!