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Re: So how can this not work
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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Well, the water catch barrel does not have the capacity to keep the tank full, unless you have a very wet climate.  A bigger storage tank would be more better. 
 
  
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Re: So how can this not work
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That cow is about to turn 180 degrees and take a dump in that thing. 
 
  
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Re: So how can this not work
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That valve, will it be able to close with the weight of that water in the barrel? It’ll need a longer arm and the cow will screw with it.  Looks like a the guy who drew it is onto something anyways. 
 
  
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Re: So how can this not work
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As previously noted, as shown, only part of the water in the barrel would flow to the tank. Once the water levels are equal, valve would stay open and water levels in barrel and tank would drop to level of the connecting pipe, then livestock would drain the tank dry. So bigger tank and connector lower.....maybe underground. 
  General concept is not new. Many farm houses had a cistern.....a big underground tank......that was used to catch rain water off roofs. Many of those even used for drinking water. Pulled up by a hand pump. Used in place of, or in addition to, a dug well. 
  Have thought the concept could also be used in all homes, catching rain water to be used for flushing toilets, watering plants, gardens and such. Tank would have to be big and tall, but concept is doable. 
 
  
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Re: So how can this not work
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Aside from collecting rain water, general process is no different than any public water system that uses water towers and stand pipes. They are all gravity fed. Water is only pumped into the tower. 
  A farm pond with pipe thru the dam and tank below is the same, except the pond is bigger than the barrel. BEST of those I've ever seen has a long but skinny tank mostly buried in the pond dam, with only a very small area exposed for animals to drink from. Being buried deep, water in the tank rarely, if ever, freezes.  
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Re: So how can this not work
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As previously noted, as shown, only part of the water in the barrel would flow to the tank. Once the water levels are equal, valve would stay open and water levels in barrel and tank would drop to level of the connecting pipe, then livestock would drain the tank dry. So bigger tank and connector lower.....maybe underground. 
  General concept is not new. Many farm houses had a cistern.....a big underground tank......that was used to catch rain water off roofs. Many of those even used for drinking water. Pulled up by a hand pump. Used in place of, or in addition to, a dug well. 
  Have thought the concept could also be used in all homes, catching rain water to be used for flushing toilets, watering plants, gardens and such. Tank would have to be big and tall, but concept is doable.  Big problem with cisterns is bacteria. When my grandparents passed away and my parents got the house, Mom had the water twawrsd and it was not good. We scrubbed and disinfected the walls and floors and still no good at least according to the lab. Course they loved in that house for 50+ years so it couldn't of been that bad.  
 
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