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Re: Union workers [Re: Gary Benson] #8367935 03/19/25 10:35 AM 03/19/25 10:35 AM
Joined: Nov 2023 West central Missouri R Raghorn67 trapper
Raghorn67 trapper R Joined: Nov 2023 West central Missouri	What Steven 49er just said. No paid vacation No paid holidays. UNLESS I'm working a shutdown on the particular holiday. No sick leave If I'm not at work,I don't get paid.

Re: Union workers [Re: Gary Benson] #8367944 03/19/25 10:55 AM 03/19/25 10:55 AM
Joined: Feb 2015 Iowa T trapdog1 trapper
trapdog1 trapper T Joined: Feb 2015 Iowa	PTO is as nice perk. Glad I have it.

Re: Union workers [Re: Gary Benson] #8367955 03/19/25 11:07 AM 03/19/25 11:07 AM
Joined: Nov 2023 Minnesota T The Finlander trapper
The Finlander trapper T Joined: Nov 2023 Minnesota	All trade unions that I know of are the same. As a carpenter I paid into a vacation fund, $1.25 an hour i think. Got a check for it twice a year. "Paid Vacation" You can negotiate with your employer, any kind of a deal on top of the union package. That definitely happens.

Re: Union workers [Re: Steven 49er] #8368009 03/19/25 11:53 AM 03/19/25 11:53 AM
Joined: Jan 2007 central Haudenosaunee, the De... W white marlin trapper
white marlin trapper W Joined: Jan 2007 central Haudenosaunee, the De...	Originally Posted by Steven 49er WM, mt local doesn't have a vacation fund. If I take time off I don't get paid how does your local's pay scale compare to others who do similar work?

Re: Union workers [Re: Gary Benson] #8368011 03/19/25 11:55 AM 03/19/25 11:55 AM
Joined: May 2010 MN S Steven 49er trapper
Steven 49er trapper S Joined: May 2010 MN	If one includes the benefits, it's a lot better "Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan

Re: Union workers [Re: Rat Masterson] #8368021 03/19/25 11:59 AM 03/19/25 11:59 AM
Joined: Mar 2011 Vernal, Utah, USA Dan Barnhurst trapper
Dan Barnhurst trapper Joined: Mar 2011 Vernal, Utah, USA	Originally Posted by Rat Masterson Throw a ladder on your truck and get an LLC, go out on your own. $ 150 an hour is the going rate here, the trick is work slow. "the trick is work slow" You believe this and feel good about treating customers this way? United we stand.

Re: Union workers [Re: Steven 49er] #8368022 03/19/25 12:02 PM 03/19/25 12:02 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 central Haudenosaunee, the De... W white marlin trapper
white marlin trapper W Joined: Jan 2007 central Haudenosaunee, the De...	Originally Posted by Steven 49er If one includes the benefits, it's a lot better only asking (percentage-wise) for hourly rate... like your rate is 10 percent higher than other's rate, etc. Last edited by white marlin; 03/19/25 12:04 PM.

Re: Union workers [Re: Dan Barnhurst] #8368031 03/19/25 12:09 PM 03/19/25 12:09 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Very SE Nebraska G Gary Benson OP trapper
Gary Benson OP trapper G Joined: Dec 2006 Very SE Nebraska	Originally Posted by Dan Barnhurst Originally Posted by Rat Masterson Throw a ladder on your truck and get an LLC, go out on your own. $ 150 an hour is the going rate here, the trick is work slow. "the trick is work slow" You believe this and feel good about treating customers this way? My nephew is a carpenter. His theory is if you take your time and think things through slowly you don't make as many mistakes and therefore don't have to go back and fix booboos. He stays busy. Life ain't supposed to be easy.

Re: Union workers [Re: Dan Barnhurst] #8368032 03/19/25 12:10 PM 03/19/25 12:10 PM
Joined: Aug 2012 South Dakota R Rat Masterson trapper
Rat Masterson trapper R Joined: Aug 2012 South Dakota	Originally Posted by Dan Barnhurst [quote=Rat Masterson]Throw a ladder on your truck and get an LLC, go out on your own. $ 150 an hour is the going rate here, the trick is work slow. "the trick is work slow" You believe this and feel good about treating customers this way?[/quot I'm not an electrician, but I've paid alot of them. Some are slow.

Re: Union workers [Re: Gary Benson] #8368040 03/19/25 12:21 PM 03/19/25 12:21 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Very SE Nebraska G Gary Benson OP trapper
Gary Benson OP trapper G Joined: Dec 2006 Very SE Nebraska	Some guys just aren't wired to hurry through a job........... Life ain't supposed to be easy.

Re: Union workers [Re: Gary Benson] #8368109 03/19/25 01:52 PM 03/19/25 01:52 PM
Joined: Feb 2015 Iowa T trapdog1 trapper
trapdog1 trapper T Joined: Feb 2015 Iowa	Originally Posted by Gary Benson Some guys just aren't wired to hurry through a job........... Especially when they're getting paid a big hourly wage.

Re: Union workers [Re: Gary Benson] #8368118 03/19/25 02:04 PM 03/19/25 02:04 PM
Joined: Nov 2024 Alaska A AK Timber Tramp trapper
AK Timber Tramp trapper A Joined: Nov 2024 Alaska	Different unions must be different. Every union project I've worked on, if your machine stops moving for more than 60 seconds you might as well go home. Can't even find time to get off the machine long enough to pee, just open the door, water the track and carry on pushing dirt

Re: Union workers [Re: trapdog1] #8368139 03/19/25 02:50 PM 03/19/25 02:50 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Very SE Nebraska G Gary Benson OP trapper
Gary Benson OP trapper G Joined: Dec 2006 Very SE Nebraska	Originally Posted by trapdog1 Originally Posted by Gary Benson Some guys just aren't wired to hurry through a job........... Especially when they're getting paid a big hourly wage. You missed my joke!!!! Electricians? Wired? Life ain't supposed to be easy.

Re: Union workers [Re: Gary Benson] #8368141 03/19/25 02:51 PM 03/19/25 02:51 PM
Joined: Feb 2015 Iowa T trapdog1 trapper
trapdog1 trapper T Joined: Feb 2015 Iowa	Went right over my head, Gary.

Re: Union workers [Re: Gary Benson] #8368204 03/19/25 04:37 PM 03/19/25 04:37 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Very SE Nebraska G Gary Benson OP trapper
Gary Benson OP trapper G Joined: Dec 2006 Very SE Nebraska	Gotta watch them overhead wires too. Life ain't supposed to be easy.

Re: Union workers [Re: Gary Benson] #8368206 03/19/25 04:38 PM 03/19/25 04:38 PM
Joined: Feb 2015 Iowa T trapdog1 trapper
trapdog1 trapper T Joined: Feb 2015 Iowa

Re: Union workers [Re: trapdog1] #8368311 03/19/25 06:30 PM 03/19/25 06:30 PM
Joined: Mar 2023 WI WI Outdoors trapper
WI Outdoors trapper Joined: Mar 2023 WI	Originally Posted by trapdog1 PTO is as nice perk. Glad I have it. The average job I assume is between 20 and 30 dollars an hour. Trades, at least here are over 50. It all balances out.

Re: Union workers [Re: Raghorn67] #8368316 03/19/25 06:33 PM 03/19/25 06:33 PM
Joined: Nov 2008 Smithville, Missouri S sigpros trapper
sigpros trapper S Joined: Nov 2008 Smithville, Missouri	Originally Posted by Raghorn67 Sigpros I imagine that you know the same guys in skilled trades that I know ! I interviewed there last summer for skilled trades It went very well up to the point when they did the math and figured out that I'm rapidly approaching 60 years old. Lol. I’m probably do know some of them. I’ve been at Ford for 25 years. The last 3 die makers we hired were over 60. 2 have already quit

Re: Union workers [Re: Gary Benson] #8368321 03/19/25 06:38 PM 03/19/25 06:38 PM
Joined: Mar 2023 WI WI Outdoors trapper
WI Outdoors trapper Joined: Mar 2023 WI	Originally Posted by Gary Benson Some guys just aren't wired to hurry through a job........... Those guys by me got laid off.

Re: Union workers [Re: white marlin] #8368323 03/19/25 06:38 PM 03/19/25 06:38 PM
Joined: May 2010 MN S Steven 49er trapper
Steven 49er trapper S Joined: May 2010 MN	Originally Posted by white marlin Originally Posted by Steven 49er If one includes the benefits, it's a lot better only asking (percentage-wise) for hourly rate... like your rate is 10 percent higher than other's rate, etc. The devil is in the details. The benefits are very important. Details matter. "Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan

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